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jivangilad
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Calea Z. fresh leves dosage
#19075349 - 11/02/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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What is the dosage for tea of fresh leaves, for inducing dreams?
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Re: Calea Z. fresh leves dosage [Re: jivangilad]
#19077172 - 11/02/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd also be very interested to see any personal knowledge about this. And if not tea, how about smoking/drying and crushing into capsules/whatever?
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Re: Calea Z. fresh leves dosage [Re: chrisj]
#19077924 - 11/02/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The tea is so fucking horrible you're better off smoking it, that's about all I know. You will need to smoke a lot though, probably more than seems reasonable.
There's also these other ones appearing at least on Shaman Australis, being some other kind of dream herb from a different part of the world.
Maybe try for extracts? Then you won't be smoking such crazy amounts.
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Re: Calea Z. fresh leves dosage [Re: circastes]
#19078354 - 11/03/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I bought dry before and I also couldn't find any real info about dosages but I did find out that it is very safe and doesn't have anything in it you can really overdose on. All of my dosages were eyed but I would say somewhere in between 2.5-3.5g each. I did it the way the natives do it sort of. tea and a joint before bed. the tea is terrible and the smoke is also pretty bad but its something that can be done. it seems the joint takes forever to burn. I rolled a king sized pure calea joint for myself each time. was pretty tough to finish.
took me about 3 nights straight to do this and then I started getting the effects. definitely worth it in my opinion but not everyone gets the effects.
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Re: Calea Z. fresh leves dosage [Re: acapuchinu]
#19079673 - 11/03/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I a growing a plant, and I want to use it. 2-3 grams seems a lot because it is a small plant. I thought of using 1-2 fresh leaves for one night, in tea. Its probably not even half a gram in dry leaves. I dont mind about the taste, I am sure I have had worse things. I dont like smoking. Could that have any effect?
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acapuchinu
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Re: Calea Z. fresh leves dosage [Re: jivangilad]
#19084106 - 11/04/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would recommend just clone your plant many times so you have a lot of leaves.
That way you can experiment with it. There really isn't much info on this great plant at all so I think that's all you can really do. it has many medicinal effects besides the lucid dreaming it can induces.
Can't really tell you what would work or wouldn't. what I did is bought 20g dry leaves for very cheap on eBay and just drank and tea with a joint before bed as I mentioned in the previous post.
let me know what you do and how it works out. this is the main plant that got me interested in ethnobotany.
By the way my order still has not arrived if you are wondering.
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Re: Calea Z. fresh leves dosage [Re: acapuchinu]
#19084577 - 11/04/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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the tea is extremely bitter and quite hard for me to get down. smoking isn't too bad at all..I started smoking calea mixed with damiana which was nice I think. it was very relaxing and after about 2 or 3 days I had a few LD's(more like semi lucid I suppose)..whether thats actually down to the plant or the fact that it was on my mind so much I'm not quite sure,either way it seemed to work well.
oh yeah actually I was taking silene capensis aswell at the time which is supposed to be good for LD aswell..I only tried them for a short time and fell out of the habit..must start again now since I've been reminded
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how does silene capensis taste? I wish I had the time to do calea again.. it worked great for me.
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Re: Calea Z. fresh leves dosage [Re: acapuchinu]
#19085126 - 11/04/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was trying it in the mornings using the supposedly traditional frothing method I had read about... basically you just fill a bottle of water and throw some into it(I cant remember how much now..think its was a gram) and shake it until it foams and then squeeze the bottle so the foam overflows and drink that...had a woody kinda taste!! and it keeps frothing for a good few days until its spent.
I think I'll start trying again soon once I'm back into a somewhat normal routine..been a bit distracted lately!!
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Oh that's how you're supposed to use it. I think I remember snorting it LOL. (silene capensis)
Do you guys really think it's worth it? Maybe I just didn't do enough calea, and maybe I should have not snorted the capensis...
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Re: Calea Z. fresh leves dosage [Re: circastes]
#19112443 - 11/09/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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haha man i dunno about snorting it but have never thought about that route as for of its really worth it i cant honestly comment...anytime ive started to try with these herbs ive only ever lasted 3 or 4 days until ive gone on anther session with varying substances so I cant truly speak of its properties as itself!!!!....what i do know and have experienced is that from the very fact that my mind was thinking and active about lucid dreaming that it did happen....more half lucid dreams at the start but more controllable as you progress!!! and eventually fully lucid controllable awareness.....
but i cant really say whether the herbs really helped or the fact i was thinking of it so much and it was in my mind that repetition made it possible...either way it seems to me like whether its placebo or the plants,,,the fact for me is that it worked at the ime....
what i think is that most probably its a mixture of both....placebo+intention..with the added fact of an under studied pant that may just have oneirological properites!!!!
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