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Almond Butter
    #19042331 - 10/27/13 07:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone eat this stuff?

I want to try it but its pretty expensive and I'm not sure if it's going to taste like natural peanut butter, which I've only tried like twice and I found it wasn't very good.

I like almonds, I love cashews, and of course normal peanut butter is the shit ( good shit), who's tried almond butter?

I wonder if there is such a thing as cashew butter  :sip:


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: The5thElement]
    #19042339 - 10/27/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes and yes.

Both almond butter and cashew butter are delicious. You can make your own at home with nuts, salt, and a food processor.


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: Scarab74]
    #19042385 - 10/27/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yup almond butter tastes great :feelsgoodman:


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: MrHill]
    #19042394 - 10/27/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There is this store that sells pistachio butter and OMFG!!!


But yes almond butter is dank and better than peanut butter depending on what you are using it on . . .


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19042450 - 10/27/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OMG Pistachio butter... I remember the first time I ever heard of that stuff from the movie Gamer with that dude from 300 :lol:

That stuff sounds amazing, I already buy cashews by the pound so maybe I should invest in a food processor :strokebeard:

Well I guess I'll buy some Almond Butter next time I'm out and see how it goes, I haven't seen cashew or pistacho butter though, any ideas on where I could find some?


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: The5thElement]
    #19042495 - 10/27/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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cashew or pistacho butter though, any ideas on where I could find some




Hippy/health food stores

or online prob


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: The5thElement]
    #19050031 - 10/29/13 01:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

whenever I buy almond butter I open it eat a spoon or 2, put it back.  Then days later its all gone...


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: Galvie_Flu]
    #19053574 - 10/29/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I like almond butter but my family and one of my friend's didn't like it at all.  Just buy a package of almonds, pour them into a food processor, and let the food processor run for a few minutes.

The almond goop will stick to the sides.  Just scrape it off with a spatula over and over until the butter is smooth.


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: The5thElement] * 1
    #19055588 - 10/30/13 01:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Almond butter is pretty decent stuff but I highly recommend raw, not roasted, both nutritionally, taste-wise and considering the fact that roasted almond butter is runny, oily crap no matter what you do. If you keep raw almond butter cold it isn't messy at all. It's superior to peanut butter, if only for that fact that peanuts are frequently contaminated with a mold that contains aflatoxin(though your exposure is likely minimal). Also almonds are nutritionally superior to peanut butter. Almond butter is sweet and complex whereas peanut butter has a comparatively dull flavor, but that of course is a subjective assessment and peanut butter does have a unique savoriness, but they are quite different is the point.

I'm actually in the midst of kicking a year+ almond butter habit. I was easily eating 8 or 10 tablespoons a day on work days. I did the math and realized that's over 100 grams of fat per day. I'm cutting it out for the most part because I could stand to lose about 15 lbs. Nut butters are very calorie-dense so keep that in mind.

I get the Maranatha brand raw, chunky or creamy. The only ingredient is almonds. I don't know if you have Fred Meyer in you neck of the woods but a 16oz jar there costs about $12 vs about $20 at Whole Foods or any other health food store. You can also get it online at a site like Vitacost for the cheapest price. It's really good on granny smith apples, Ryvita crackers(fruit&seed), and sprouted grain cinnamon raisin english muffins.


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: tito123]
    #19070904 - 11/01/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I like almond butter but my family and one of my friend's didn't like it at all.  Just buy a package of almonds, pour them into a food processor, and let the food processor run for a few minutes.

The almond goop will stick to the sides.  Just scrape it off with a spatula over and over until the butter is smooth.




My dad did this once but with a coffee grinder, needless to say he broke it.


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: The5thElement]
    #19071983 - 11/01/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Jif's almond butter is much better tasting than the crude garbage. Too bad they use hydrogenated oils as an additive in it.




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Re: Almond Butter [Re: Viveka]
    #19072792 - 11/01/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do they have Jif's in Canada?? I don't think I've every seen it before.

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Almond butter is pretty decent stuff but I highly recommend raw, not roasted, both nutritionally, taste-wise and considering the fact that roasted almond butter is runny, oily crap no matter what you do. If you keep raw almond butter cold it isn't messy at all. It's superior to peanut butter, if only for that fact that peanuts are frequently contaminated with a mold that contains aflatoxin(though your exposure is likely minimal). Also almonds are nutritionally superior to peanut butter. Almond butter is sweet and complex whereas peanut butter has a comparatively dull flavor, but that of course is a subjective assessment and peanut butter does have a unique savoriness, but they are quite different is the point.

I'm actually in the midst of kicking a year+ almond butter habit. I was easily eating 8 or 10 tablespoons a day on work days. I did the math and realized that's over 100 grams of fat per day. I'm cutting it out for the most part because I could stand to lose about 15 lbs. Nut butters are very calorie-dense so keep that in mind.

I get the Maranatha brand raw, chunky or creamy. The only ingredient is almonds. I don't know if you have Fred Meyer in you neck of the woods but a 16oz jar there costs about $12 vs about $20 at Whole Foods or any other health food store. You can also get it online at a site like Vitacost for the cheapest price. It's really good on granny smith apples, Ryvita crackers(fruit&seed), and sprouted grain cinnamon raisin english muffins.





Good post, thanks man.


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: s240779]
    #19073301 - 11/02/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Jif's almond butter is much better tasting than the crude garbage. Too bad they use hydrogenated oils as an additive in it.







:facepalm:  The crude garbage? You mean almond butter made from almonds? The second ingredient of this Jif garbage is sugar. So it tastes better to you because your sense of taste is corrupted from eating crap like Jif. Almonds are plenty sweet on their own. Then there's the whole assortment of rapeseed, cottonseed and soybean oil. Oh look at that, three of the flagship GMO crops. It also has sunflower oil, which really makes me think there isn't much actual almond content in this stuff since almonds have more than enough oil on their own. Get out of here with this Jif nonsense.


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: Viveka]
    #19073473 - 11/02/13 02:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The second ingredient of this Jif garbage is sugar. So it tastes better to you because your sense of taste is corrupted from eating crap like Jif.





It's called a recipe. Whoever said almond butter had to be pure almonds. And it's not just the sweetening, but also the fact that they absolutely machinate their butter to the point where it's as smooth as possible (this is why I referred to non-Jif stuff as "crude"). And they don't include the almond skins in their butter, so it's one nice, uniform light brown color. By the way, I own a BlendTec blender and I've dumped crude almond butter into it (by itself, no water -- BlendTec is capable of that) to blend it up and finish the job that the company didn't do. It's nice to have it at a proper texture, but it should be noted that the additives in Jif contribute significantly to the texture, making it even finer, like actual butter, or fudge would be a good comparison.


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It also has sunflower oil, which really makes me think there isn't much actual almond content in this stuff since almonds have more than enough oil on their own.




Bad assumption. The ingredient list does not indicate quantity. Such things are used for texture and to modulate flavor.


You mentioned that one should get almond butter made from raw almonds. I believe it's now sort of mandatory to pasteurize almonds. I remember reading about this when it was new news back in like 2008 but I'm too lazy to look it up now. Additionally, raw nuts contain antinutrients. These antinutrients are removed via cooking, but also soaking in water for an extended period of time. I've never seen a raw almond butter indicate that they've employed this process -- which is necessary for taste, ensuring proper digestion, and nutrition (with the exception of only one brand). There also seems to be a significant quality issue with commonplace almonds. I've had almonds distributed by special brands, for lack of a better way to put it, and they were just so fluffy and so much tastier compared to the commonplace ones. I don't literally mean fluffy, but it was as if they had fluffed out at some point in their growth. It's as if commonplace ones are unripe. The most remarkable feature is that they had a flattened structure (as if they spread out at some point). I now feel like I"m being ripped off by commonplace almonds.


So, Jif's use of proper machinery and their use of a unique recipe is respectable, but their inclusion of those oils is unacceptable. The nutrition value of all almond butters is questionable considering the antinutrients (almond butter made straight from raw almonds) and the pasteurization process. Actually the pasteurization process might neutralize the antinutrients in the raw almonds (which aren't actually raw because they're pasteurized).  :weirdeyes:

By the way, the reason Jif and other commercial nut butters have that uniquely rich texture is because those hydrogenated oils are the same thing as Crisco. If you've ever seen that stuff, you can imagine how its addition affects the texture. Beef tallow also has a similar texture. Palm oil is another fat with a similar texture, and is actually used by the commercial companies in place of the hydrogenated oils for their "natural" lines -- which only include peanut butter, as of yet.

I do not think any almond butters I've tried taste good and this is because of the various inadequacies that I've pointed out. Jif does taste could, but it's unacceptable -- if they used organic raw almonds (soaked, too) and used their machinery and recipe and used an additive other than hydrogenated oils, it would be perfect.


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: Galvie_Flu]
    #19073572 - 11/02/13 03:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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tito123 said:
I like almond butter but my family and one of my friend's didn't like it at all.  Just buy a package of almonds, pour them into a food processor, and let the food processor run for a few minutes.

The almond goop will stick to the sides.  Just scrape it off with a spatula over and over until the butter is smooth.




My dad did this once but with a coffee grinder, needless to say he broke it.




You could do it with a blender as long as you mix a tiny bit of olive oil (or whatever other oil you would like) in with the nuts of your choice. I make my hummus this way, with olive oil and chickpeas and throw in whatever seasonings and salts of my choice.

Personally, I'm a huge fan of raw nuts. I think they taste way, wayyyyyyy better than roasted. Much more rich and full flavor profile. After eating raw nuts I don't know why anybody would ever eat roasted nuts again.


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Re: Almond Butter [Re: s240779]
    #19075886 - 11/02/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The second ingredient of this Jif garbage is sugar. So it tastes better to you because your sense of taste is corrupted from eating crap like Jif.





It's called a recipe. Whoever said almond butter had to be pure almonds. And it's not just the sweetening, but also the fact that they absolutely machinate their butter to the point where it's as smooth as possible (this is why I referred to non-Jif stuff as "crude"). And they don't include the almond skins in their butter, so it's one nice, uniform light brown color. By the way, I own a BlendTec blender and I've dumped crude almond butter into it (by itself, no water -- BlendTec is capable of that) to blend it up and finish the job that the company didn't do. It's nice to have it at a proper texture, but it should be noted that the additives in Jif contribute significantly to the texture, making it even finer, like actual butter, or fudge would be a good comparison.


Quote:

Viveka said:
It also has sunflower oil, which really makes me think there isn't much actual almond content in this stuff since almonds have more than enough oil on their own.




Bad assumption. The ingredient list does not indicate quantity. Such things are used for texture and to modulate flavor.


You mentioned that one should get almond butter made from raw almonds. I believe it's now sort of mandatory to pasteurize almonds. I remember reading about this when it was new news back in like 2008 but I'm too lazy to look it up now. Additionally, raw nuts contain antinutrients. These antinutrients are removed via cooking, but also soaking in water for an extended period of time. I've never seen a raw almond butter indicate that they've employed this process -- which is necessary for taste, ensuring proper digestion, and nutrition (with the exception of only one brand). There also seems to be a significant quality issue with commonplace almonds. I've had almonds distributed by special brands, for lack of a better way to put it, and they were just so fluffy and so much tastier compared to the commonplace ones. I don't literally mean fluffy, but it was as if they had fluffed out at some point in their growth. It's as if commonplace ones are unripe. The most remarkable feature is that they had a flattened structure (as if they spread out at some point). I now feel like I"m being ripped off by commonplace almonds.


So, Jif's use of proper machinery and their use of a unique recipe is respectable, but their inclusion of those oils is unacceptable. The nutrition value of all almond butters is questionable considering the antinutrients (almond butter made straight from raw almonds) and the pasteurization process. Actually the pasteurization process might neutralize the antinutrients in the raw almonds (which aren't actually raw because they're pasteurized).  :weirdeyes:

By the way, the reason Jif and other commercial nut butters have that uniquely rich texture is because those hydrogenated oils are the same thing as Crisco. If you've ever seen that stuff, you can imagine how its addition affects the texture. Beef tallow also has a similar texture. Palm oil is another fat with a similar texture, and is actually used by the commercial companies in place of the hydrogenated oils for their "natural" lines -- which only include peanut butter, as of yet.

I do not think any almond butters I've tried taste good and this is because of the various inadequacies that I've pointed out. Jif does taste could, but it's unacceptable -- if they used organic raw almonds (soaked, too) and used their machinery and recipe and used an additive other than hydrogenated oils, it would be perfect.





Yeah jif is crap. It tastes good to you because it is loaded with extra fat, salt, and tons of sugar.  It in no way resmbles real almond butter





http://www.leanitup.com/report-jif-launches-almond-butter-still-healthy-loaded-trans-fat/


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