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That voice
    #19073364 - 11/02/13 01:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just a quick thought.... that voice in your mind definitely gets louder when you take mushies. All the way from first time to frequently, over a period of time especially. .. now, regardlessly if I'm on 'em or not , I think way more and with more powerful thoughts. It feels more and more like, for 30 years I've been asleep.. if that's the case then, WoW!


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Re: That voice [Re: BBH224]
    #19073373 - 11/02/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the first time i took mushrooms, i went in to some sort of trance that lasted about 15 minutes where i could see someone sitting next to me in my prepherial vision and they were speaking to me about all kinds of secrets (which i forgot upon realizing i was hearing a voice from someone that was not even there **at least not in this plane of existence**) it was an older man's voice.  strange!  but very awesome and powerful.  :awesome:


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Re: That voice [Re: BBH224]
    #19073502 - 11/02/13 02:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I really don't get much of a "voice" whilst thrippeng.  Understanding comes to me in the form of a hiss, hiss being a gross simplification of the concept, but the experience seems simplistic anyway.  Behind the noise, behind the silence, behind your yammering brain something is there, or at least I can "hear" it better on fun fungus... I try to tune the moron in my head as much as possible :grin: and focus on the hiss that makes me see, makes me think, makes me move.  :insano:


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Re: That voice [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19073528 - 11/02/13 03:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I really don't get much of a "voice" whilst thrippeng.  Understanding comes to me in the form of a hiss, hiss being a gross simplification of the concept, but the experience seems simplistic anyway.  Behind the noise, behind the silence, behind your yammering brain something is there, or at least I can "hear" it better on fun fungus... I try to tune the moron in my head as much as possible :grin: and focus on the hiss that makes me see, makes me think, makes me move.  :insano:




I think I can relate to this "hiss" you speak of... when I take mushrooms, I can feel all the information creeping into my head with a strange static-like noise. The fungus definitely plants its mycelium in my brain!


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Re: That voice [Re: MindDrips]
    #19074954 - 11/02/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Also, there is 4d matrix I "see" as a layer between me and the world, even on the back of my eyelids.  I like to think that it is the rumble of a new psychosocial revolution, but then I think I'm jus' trippin'.


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Re: That voice [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19075029 - 11/02/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Also, there is 4d matrix I "see" as a layer between me and the world, even on the back of my eyelids.  I like to think that it is the rumble of a new psychosocial revolution, but then I think I'm jus' trippin'.




Who's to say if it's one or the other? None of us will know~


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Re: That voice [Re: MindDrips]
    #19075675 - 11/02/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This thread is full of people who think they know what they are talking about. God, I hate TPE.


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Re: That voice [Re: healing]
    #19075725 - 11/02/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This thread is full of people who think they know what they are talking about. God, I hate TPE.




Yes, I'm sure people talking about their EXPERIENCE know nothing about it.

Obviously you're the only you know what happens to other people when they take psychedelics.

edit: Your signature..."open mind, open heart". For a one sentence post that discounts other's opinions/experiences and expresses hate all at once, you definitely seem to be sticking to that motto quite well.


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Re: That voice [Re: V1rusH0st]
    #19076042 - 11/02/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Having an open mind does not mean that you believe every stupid post on a drug message board, having an open heart has a double meaning and being an open book is something that can only be observed on a wider spectrum than you could possibly know with your 2013 membership.

I'm not saying that their experiences are invalid, just that they are processing their experiences in a way that shows that they have no knowledge about the nature of a psychedelic experience, or even the mind itself, yet choose to make statements about their opinions of what everyone must experience during a trip, as if they know that we all must be just like them. The psychedelic experience is much further reaching than what these people are discussing. They seem childish and ill informed. They are operating on the level of a two year old child, just realizing that people see things differently.


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Re: That voice [Re: BBH224]
    #19076413 - 11/02/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Speaking of 'voice in your head,' sometimes when I'm tripping super hard, like while on 20 dry grams, I can't distinguish whether or not I'm talking just in my head or if I'm actually speaking out loud. I'm pretty sure it's the latter, haha.  :blah: OBE's are pretty crazy.


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Re: That voice [Re: healing]
    #19077506 - 11/02/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Having an open mind does not mean that you believe every stupid post on a drug message board, having an open heart has a double meaning and being an open book is something that can only be observed on a wider spectrum than you could possibly know with your 2013 membership.

I'm not saying that their experiences are invalid, just that they are processing their experiences in a way that shows that they have no knowledge about the nature of a psychedelic experience, or even the mind itself, yet choose to make statements about their opinions of what everyone must experience during a trip, as if they know that we all must be just like them. The psychedelic experience is much further reaching than what these people are discussing. They seem childish and ill informed. They are operating on the level of a two year old child, just realizing that people see things differently.




Just because it's not the same belief as yours doesn't mean you automatically discount it as stupid. That's not an open mind. And obviously anyone who hasn't joined this forum as long ago as you doesn't understand a thing.

And obviously these people aren't making an account of what they have experienced, but saying what they experienced is what everyone else MUST experience.

Please at least take a minute to think about what you are saying before you try to sound elitist and better than everyone. You end up just sounding like an asshole. Thank you.


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Re: That voice [Re: V1rusH0st]
    #19077947 - 11/02/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

On a lighter note.... Blah blah bleh bla ble bel bloop I think everybody's missing the point of sharing information of their experiences/beliefs on a subject and truly learning from each other whether it be learning their a complete ass hole or whatever else they might enlighten you too. So please let's get back to the topic at hand... Please :llamastare:


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Re: That voice [Re: healing] * 1
    #19078153 - 11/03/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This thread planet is full of people who think they know what they are talking about. God, I hate TPE that we're all hopelessly human!




How dare you bring our Lord into this?!  Don't you know that God already answered all pertinent questions in that book he wrote? :grin:

If you don't like TPE fine, but you're the one who's being more condescending and self-righteous :shrug:


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Re: That voice [Re: BBH224]
    #19078336 - 11/03/13 01:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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BBH224 said:That voice in your mind definitely gets louder when you take mushies.




I don't have a voice in my mind that gets louder when I take mushrooms. That's your bullshit, OP. Thanks for sharing.


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Re: That voice [Re: healing] * 1
    #19078564 - 11/03/13 01:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There must be some way to communicate that without being a bitch.


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Re: That voice [Re: Space Elf]
    #19078591 - 11/03/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Speaking of 'voice in your head,' sometimes when I'm tripping super hard, like while on 20 dry grams, I can't distinguish whether or not I'm talking just in my head or if I'm actually speaking out loud. I'm pretty sure it's the latter, haha.  :blah: OBE's are pretty crazy.



I couldn't even imagine doing 20 dry grams. You just eat them straight up?


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Re: That voice [Re: V1rusH0st]
    #19078697 - 11/03/13 02:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Having an open mind does not mean that you believe every stupid post on a drug message board, having an open heart has a double meaning and being an open book is something that can only be observed on a wider spectrum than you could possibly know with your 2013 membership.

I'm not saying that their experiences are invalid, just that they are processing their experiences in a way that shows that they have no knowledge about the nature of a psychedelic experience, or even the mind itself, yet choose to make statements about their opinions of what everyone must experience during a trip, as if they know that we all must be just like them. The psychedelic experience is much further reaching than what these people are discussing. They seem childish and ill informed. They are operating on the level of a two year old child, just realizing that people see things differently.




Just because it's not the same belief as yours doesn't mean you automatically discount it as stupid. That's not an open mind. And obviously anyone who hasn't joined this forum as long ago as you doesn't understand a thing.

And obviously these people aren't making an account of what they have experienced, but saying what they experienced is what everyone else MUST experience.

Please at least take a minute to think about what you are saying before you try to sound elitist and better than everyone. You end up just sounding like an asshole. Thank you.



This just seems appropriate.


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Re: That voice [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19078816 - 11/03/13 04:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I love listening to the silence while tripping. I get bombarded with sound clips. Stuff that I can't even make out. It seems like I'm hearing sounds from my memory, things that I've heard through my whole life all mashed up. Voices of random strangers saying random things or just making verbal sounds.

I've tried to imitate the sounds with my voice. On my last trip I recorded myself doing that.. pretty bazaar. It was a good thing I was alone. I could hear what sounded like a football stadium full of people chanting something. I started chanting in a loud radio announcer voice, like a cheer leader "Rah rah rah, rah re re. Re re rah. Re rah... It felt great!


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Re: That voice [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19079287 - 11/03/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Also, there is 4d matrix I "see" as a layer between me and the world, even on the back of my eyelids.  I like to think that it is the rumble of a new psychosocial revolution, but then I think I'm jus' trippin'.




I have been doing research on what you are referencing here for about a year now, and that 4d field of buzzing "mad molecules" is an experience that has been described by people in art, philosophy, and so on for thousands of years. Its even represented in some of the oldest works of art known. As I'm sure you've intuited during/after the experience, it is the "substrate" from which all sense impressions arise. When you see it as a sort of indistinct haze, it seems that you are seeing the sort of feedback loop created by the many impressions of it being stacked on top of one another in rapid succession, but in those very deep and still moments the "4d matrix" is revealed in its full glory, totally unrestrained, random color and form with a beauty unparalleled by anything in the pale, lifeless waking world.

It could be the beginnings of a psychosocial revolution if enough people learned to notice it (it can be easily done sober, no psychedelics needed), and learned about its function. It is the key to understanding how the "outside world" is actually very much an inner world, simply the projection that takes form when the 4d matrix you speak of is blurred.


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Re: That voice [Re: aw11driver]
    #19080870 - 11/03/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Speaking of 'voice in your head,' sometimes when I'm tripping super hard, like while on 20 dry grams, I can't distinguish whether or not I'm talking just in my head or if I'm actually speaking out loud. I'm pretty sure it's the latter, haha.  :blah: OBE's are pretty crazy.



I couldn't even imagine doing 20 dry grams. You just eat them straight up?




I made tea out of them. :sip: It took two huge cups worth of water to get all the actives out. I chugged both of them, ha. Honestly, I don't think the mushrooms were as potent as they should've been, because it was my last flush, and they didn't bruise a whole lot when I picked them.


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Re: That voice [Re: Space Elf]
    #19080949 - 11/03/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

why all the anger here?  i don't think i know everything.  i am in a constant state of information input and i will learn things until the day i die (and possibly after that, as well?) 

so chill yourself out and don't be a tool.


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Re: That voice [Re: windowlikcer]
    #19083404 - 11/03/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Also, there is 4d matrix I "see" as a layer between me and the world, even on the back of my eyelids.  I like to think that it is the rumble of a new psychosocial revolution, but then I think I'm jus' trippin'.




I have been doing research on what you are referencing here for about a year now, and that 4d field of buzzing "mad molecules" is an experience that has been described by people in art, philosophy, and so on for thousands of years. Its even represented in some of the oldest works of art known. As I'm sure you've intuited during/after the experience, it is the "substrate" from which all sense impressions arise. When you see it as a sort of indistinct haze, it seems that you are seeing the sort of feedback loop created by the many impressions of it being stacked on top of one another in rapid succession, but in those very deep and still moments the "4d matrix" is revealed in its full glory, totally unrestrained, random color and form with a beauty unparalleled by anything in the pale, lifeless waking world.

It could be the beginnings of a psychosocial revolution if enough people learned to notice it (it can be easily done sober, no psychedelics needed), and learned about its function. It is the key to understanding how the "outside world" is actually very much an inner world, simply the projection that takes form when the 4d matrix you speak of is blurred.




Thank you.  This is some of the best wordings I can relate to as far as this subject, and I have tried to talk about it to a few only to be met with the same stare I give other people who are rambling senselessly about their trip theories.  The thing is that this is only partially connected to drugs, maybe not even significantly.  It is a sort of thing that has been a theme to my worldview for as long as I can remember, well before I began using drugs.

I will say that these sort of introspective persuits probably made me more prone to drug use, but I don't think the drugs caused me to think like this.


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Re: That voice [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19083428 - 11/03/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The voice in my head says some hilarious things when I do mushrooms. Usually nonsensical words like hooveyshava or wambolina


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Re: That voice [Re: mindgnome]
    #19083828 - 11/04/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I apologize for straying from the topic, but I like the discussion in this thread.  One thing I notice about how mushrooms change my perspective is that they will make the line between weird and normal non-existant.  I'm not saying I wouldn't join you in a laughing fit over some hooveybolina but I may as well hear anything, because even normal words seem completely absurd. 

That is perhaps why I seek out and find solace in the whispering (or sometimes rumbling) undercurrents to sensation most people know as silence, death, stillness, empty space.  It is the part of existence that seems to transcend the self.  It is there and it does seem to say things, even if it uses no words.


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Re: That voice [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19084730 - 11/04/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I remember hearing

He doesn't get it.. He doesn't understand yet

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Re: That voice [Re: Deathcore]
    #19087904 - 11/04/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Who is "he"?  Me? (real q, not rhetorical or anything).  Could you elaborate?


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Re: That voice [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #19088473 - 11/05/13 02:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

3rd person, in regards to me probably..

Like machine elves I couldn't see saying I'm not ready..


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Re: That voice [Re: Deathcore]
    #19088495 - 11/05/13 02:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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3rd person, in regards to me probably..

Like machine elves I couldn't see saying I'm not ready..




You clarify, but only to convolute.

The machine elves were talking about you as if you didn't understand. Did they enlighten you in any way, or only whisper of your incapacity?


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Re: That voice [Re: healing]
    #19088522 - 11/05/13 03:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was going through hell at the time so I assumed it was satan or someone trying to trick me


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