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SunshineDaydream
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first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question.
#19073310 - 11/02/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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well hello everyone! i am taking on san pedro cactus for the first time tomorrow! i grew this specimen myself. it is about 14" tall and i think i am going to consume the whole thing. i am used to pretty heavy doses of psychedelics (i favor aprox. 800ug LSD trips, etc.) so i figure i will handle the dose fine. i'm going to remove the spikes and probably just blend the whole cactus up with some orange juice and ice and chug the beverage. i know this won't taste good and i see mixed reviews on consuming the core but i'm not adverse to puking before the trip starts. some people say the core contains dopamine...is this true? what type of music, if any, would you all recommend? i usually just go with ambient music. anyhoo, does this cactus look like a good specimen to you all? any input is much appreciated. wish me luck!
Edited by SunshineDaydream (11/02/13 02:01 AM)
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Dudits
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: SunshineDaydream]
#19073471 - 11/02/13 02:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Take it early unless you want to pull an all nighter. I would probably boil it down to, its so frothy after you blend it I don't think it would be possible to drink. Beautiful cacti enjoy it tomorrow.
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SunshineDaydream
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: Dudits]
#19073484 - 11/02/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dudits said: Take it early unless you want to pull an all nighter. I would probably boil it down to, its so frothy after you blend it I don't think it would be possible to drink. Beautiful cacti enjoy it tomorrow.
you're right about boiling it down to make consuming it easier. thanks for the tip. i plan on ingesting around 2PM i've been growing these for about 6 years now, actually. i currently have 12 cacti but this one looks like the best specimen to consume. my patience in growing will probably be good juju! thank you for your input. i'll let you all know how it goes!
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barong
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: SunshineDaydream]
#19073526 - 11/02/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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First of all, a big FUCK YEA to growing your own psychedelics. Good karma will accompany your journey.
Secondly, the core, and the inner white flesh is alleged to contain low to no actives, but all the bitter, nasty taste and nausea inducing badness.
Check out this TEK, even if you don't follow through to the dehydrating stage, the first part will at least guide you on how to remove the core.
You can turn it off at 3:40
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: SunshineDaydream]
#19074127 - 11/02/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think you will find san Pedro overpowering I would first take off the skin and simmer it for about 6 hrs with lemon juice and water and enjoy. I would also consider trying Trichocereus Bridgesii it is a san Pedro cousin I find it to be stronger. Enjoy!!!
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nicechrisman
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: SunshineDaydream]
#19074198 - 11/02/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You will want to remove the skin, and if it's very girthy, the core will be very woody and will not be blendable. I don't know about all the core containing this or that business. Sounds mostly like hearsay.
I've never tried consuming mine the way you plan to. Good luck. If you want a good tek for tea it is here
http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/drugs/nansnook3c/7850.html
If I were to try to just consume raw cactus, I would just fillet the green tissue and not bother with consuming all the white flesh and core. I'd just save that and make tea with it.
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nicechrisman
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: nicechrisman]
#19074243 - 11/02/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The skin is easiest to remove after cutting the cactus longwise into strips and then freezing and thawing a couple times. Make sure to keep in a vessel though as many precious juices will be released in the process.
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barong
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: nicechrisman]
#19074364 - 11/02/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said:I don't know about all the core containing this or that business. Sounds mostly like hearsay.
Sounds like you don't have the first idea about this topic.
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: barong]
#19074792 - 11/02/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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barong said:
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nicechrisman said:I don't know about all the core containing this or that business. Sounds mostly like hearsay.
Sounds like you don't have the first idea about this topic.
I would vouch for nicechrisman. He knows quite a bit about cacti. There are also threads on here where people eat the green flesh and save the white flesh and core for tea that they consumed at a later date with effects.
Edit: Also, check this out. It has a breakdown of how mescaline is distributed in san pedro.
Edited by 4HO-DMT (11/02/13 12:00 PM)
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#19075784 - 11/02/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok, first off, if you like 800ug LSD, 14 inches won't be enough IMHO. Go for at least 2ft, if you have the cactus to use. 14 inches will trip you, for sure, especially if it is a thick specimen, but you don't have a thick specimen, but a standard sized one. You want AT LEAST 3 pounds of good cactus if you are experienced with psychedelics. 4 pounds would be better if you like stronger doses. Also, cactus has no mind fuck to speak of, and I took over 10 pounds before (two BIG glasses of took only a shot glass for effects, two shots for a good trip.) and while it was intense and with a 10 hour PEAK, and a total of 3 days tripping, I had no problems with mind fuck. The sensory overload got too much though. (I had DMT strength visuals for 10 hours.) So, basically, you want to ingest as much as your stomach will handle. You can go way deeper with cactus with a lucidity unrivaled. This is what makes makes it such and effective healing tool. You can't get 'fucked up' on it.
Number two. DON'T DISCARD CORES. Cores have WAY more than you think, especially if you've got a thick core. It may have LESS mescaline PER GRAM OF MATERIAL, but the cores can WEIGH A TON. In my experience, at least a third of the total actives are in the core, and up to half if the core makes up a good deal of the weight.
Number 3, take your time, and make tea. Trust me, it is worth it.
Finally, HAVE FUN BRO!
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: The Centre]
#19075861 - 11/02/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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IF you have a strong stomach..just dry it out, scissor it up, and swallow that with pop. 10 inches this way made me trip FAR harder than 14 inches of properly made tea that took many pulls and days to make. It actually made me trip much harder than 13 inches of raw cactus that I gradually ate over a couple hours, so clearly the faster you ingest mescaline the more effective.
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nicechrisman
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: barong]
#19079012 - 11/03/13 06:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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barong said:
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nicechrisman said:I don't know about all the core containing this or that business. Sounds mostly like hearsay.
Sounds like you don't have the first idea about this topic.
Actually I've done quite a bit of research on the topic. Enough to find that there is a lot of conflicting info on the issue.
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SunshineDaydream
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: nicechrisman]
#19080689 - 11/03/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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UPDATE: that was a lot of fun! i do think i will try two feet my next time up (next saturday). nice, relaxed stimulation (people who have taken really well made LSD or had a nice mescaline trip know what i mean) that is actually still going. last night was fun. didn't get much more than a few things moving around (not exactly the same type of visuals i've gotten from LSD but enjoyable), tracers (NICE ONES!), and a really happy and dreamy headspace with some pretty CEVs. i DID save the core, which i boiled up in to tea today and consumed about 10 minutes ago (lol) to hopefully kick it back in a bit. i never take psychedelics with the intention of getting "fucked up"...that's for the kids. i like higher doses of psychedelics because they help me put my priorities in order.  anyhoo, two feet sounds like a pretty rad dose. i have plenty to work with, here. thanks for your input, yall. still feelin good almost 24 hours after consumption and i still have slight pupil dialation, too. enjoyed this cactus a lot. i will let you all know how it goes next time around!
Edited by SunshineDaydream (11/03/13 03:29 PM)
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: SunshineDaydream] 1
#19080850 - 11/03/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stimulating psychedelics are awesome
-------------------- On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky We all need more love, and mainly less hate Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye That makes the heart's eye cry Locked deep away in the skies of our minds It's all in the mind
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#19080954 - 11/03/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My next aim is to dose mescaline and add mushrooms 4 hours later
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SunshineDaydream
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: Fungi]
#19081021 - 11/03/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fungi said: My next aim is to dose mescaline and add mushrooms 4 hours later 
nice! my very first time with mescaline i decided to not count. i didn't think it was going to work as i was not feeling much three hours later so i dropped 500ug of L on top of it...THEN it started to work. that was about 8 inches of san pedro on that one...i ended up getting more than i bargained for (which wasn't BAD...but it was DIFFICULT, to say the least). it seems that it takes me longer then many people to come up on a dose.
i would definitely like to try maybe a 12" piece and a hit of 350-500ug at some point, now that i am more familiar with the effect.
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nicechrisman
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Re: first time up with san pedro tomorrow! quick question. [Re: Fungi]
#19082455 - 11/03/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fungi said: My next aim is to dose mescaline and add mushrooms 4 hours later 
I tried that once. It was OK, but not my favorite. But then I don't really like MDMA with mushrooms either and lots of people do.
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