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Does making a tea actually reduce nausea?
    #19072291 - 11/01/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've had multiple experiences with mushrooms, and all of these times I had wonderful trips from just ingesting the dry mushies. My boyfriend and I both experience significant gastrointestinal discomfort on mushrooms, and I was reading a few recipes for mushroom tea. The nausea never produces a bad trip, but it is an annoying side effect that both of us wish we didn't have to worry about.

I'd like to hear some first-hand advice, does anybody notice significant reduction of nausea when ingesting tea instead of the dry mushrooms?


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19072415 - 11/01/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

im not 100% sure on this but i think nausea is caused from eating beforehand. i've trip on an empty stomach on many occasions and noticed a significant decrease in nausea, sometimes almost completely nonexistent.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: zZZz]
    #19072421 - 11/01/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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zZZz said:
im not 100% sure on this but i think nausea is caused from eating beforehand. i've trip on an empty stomach on many occasions and noticed a significant decrease in nausea, sometimes almost completely nonexistent.




I have heard this, but after trying them on an empty stomach I still got nausea. Perhaps it's just my stomach?


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19072431 - 11/01/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well how empty are we talking about here? 2, 4 hours?..


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: zZZz]
    #19072468 - 11/01/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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zZZz said:
well how empty are we talking about here? 2, 4 hours?..




Usually at least 4 hours empty. It's not completely intolerable, it's just a bit undesirable.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19072493 - 11/01/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yea im talking about not eating from the time you wake up. maybe like just a veggie or fruit juice in the morning. ime


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: zZZz]
    #19072518 - 11/01/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Tea completely rid the nausea aspect for me.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: Othyem]
    #19072837 - 11/01/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't tried them in tea (or at all actually) but I've had the thought that maybe the nausea is caused by a separate strictly fat soluble alkaloid within the shrooms? Hence why, unless you eat the left over mush at the bottom, tea reduces or entirely removes nausea? :shrug:


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19072931 - 11/01/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I always add fresh ginger to my tea. Zero nausea and a smooth trip.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: thormaxim]
    #19072942 - 11/01/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think it's actually that the HEAT in from the hot water in the tea helps kill some of unwanted nasties (bacteria) that would otherwise upset the flora in your empty tummy. Doesn't always work, but much better than eating dry.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: thormaxim]
    #19072956 - 11/01/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, mostly.
There can still be some nausea on come up but it's smooth on the stomach.
I almost always do tea.  At higher doses it's the only way, mushroom tissue is fiberous.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19072962 - 11/02/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Tea will definitely decrease the nausea, but I think the nausea is just part of the Mushroom come up. I find with Mushrooms, it's a lot like a trial. You have to overcome Hell to reach Heaven. the tea definitely helps, but I can guarantee it'll still be there. Regardless, I prefer doing a Lemon Tek/Tea type combo over eating them any day, it's the only way I'll take Mushrooms these days. Tea all the way. :thumbup:


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #19073514 - 11/02/13 02:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks everyone!
I'll probably test out the tea soon, and then a lemon tek. It sounds like a nice experience, and I just love how psilocybin makes me feel!:mushroomgrow:

I do plan on trying higher(>4g) doses in the future, so the tea will probably help.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19073894 - 11/02/13 07:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This may be a little bit extreme for you but think about giving this a trychange you're diet around up the raw vegetables and fruit 80% fruits and vegi's 20% your normal diet 3 days before your trip.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: MindDrips] * 1
    #19074215 - 11/02/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The chitin in mushrooms is what most frequently causes nausea for people. By making tea and removing the solids, you eliminate the chitin content. There are other things about mushrooms and the experience that CAN cause nausea, but usually it's the chitin.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19074366 - 11/02/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't get why people dislike the taste. I actually love the taste of dried. I don't like food mushrooms but I like the taste of dried shroomies. I think they taste like peanut butter.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: mindgnome]
    #19075011 - 11/02/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't get why people dislike the taste. I actually love the taste of dried. I don't like food mushrooms but I like the taste of dried shroomies. I think they taste like peanut butter.




It's not the initial taste of the dried mushies, I actually kind of enjoy the taste too. (Although I'm allergic to peanut butter... they taste more like dusty white mushrooms to me lol)

It's the nausea that usually comes in during the peak that I'm trying to avoid, not the taste of the chewy things. haha


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19075434 - 11/02/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I once did 100 wet grams in tea, and never felt nauseous one bit.  Dry shrooms make me gag because of the taste and consistency, but tea has always worked well for me.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19075478 - 11/02/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

hmm I think I perceive the nausea differently than other people. The only thing I have noticed during the come up is butterflies in my stomach or the few times I have taken more than 3 grams I have this feeling sort of like lightheaded but more floaty. The people I know who get nauseous seem to think tea is a good route and you definitely feel it as much from what I've heard.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: Astral Piper]
    #19075857 - 11/02/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I once did 100 wet grams in tea, and never felt nauseous one bit.  Dry shrooms make me gag because of the taste and consistency, but tea has always worked well for me.




100 grams, wow! I've actually never eaten wet psilocybin mushrooms, but that still sounds like quite a hefty dose. Must've been an interesting experience!

I love your sig by the way, Syd is the best! :super:


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19076539 - 11/02/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you have a weak stomach (like me - I get stomach cramps just from eating 1g dry raw) you might want to experiment with lemon tekking your shrooms some time. Regular tea gets rid of most of the nausea for me but with the lemon tek its a thing of the past.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19076667 - 11/02/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The nausea is from direct action of the psilocybin on GI serotonin receptors. The only way to avoid it is to use 5HT3 antagonist medications like zofran.


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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: ryan]
    #19076750 - 11/02/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The nausea is from direct action of the psilocybin on GI serotonin receptors. The only way to avoid it is to use 5HT3 antagonist medications like zofran.




Hey Doc, can I get a script for Zofran? I'm going shrooming tonight and I want to make sure I got my Gastro Receptors protected.

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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: ryan]
    #19077183 - 11/02/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ryan said:
The nausea is from direct action of the psilocybin on GI serotonin receptors. The only way to avoid it is to use 5HT3 antagonist medications like zofran.




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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19077467 - 11/02/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've had multiple experiences with mushrooms, and all of these times I had wonderful trips from just ingesting the dry mushies. My boyfriend and I both experience significant gastrointestinal discomfort on mushrooms, and I was reading a few recipes for mushroom tea. The nausea never produces a bad trip, but it is an annoying side effect that both of us wish we didn't have to worry about.

I'd like to hear some first-hand advice, does anybody notice significant reduction of nausea when ingesting tea instead of the dry mushrooms?




Tea does it for me, normally.  If I ate too recently though I can still get periods of queasiness.

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Re: Does making a tea actually reduce nausea? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #19079216 - 11/03/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You don't need Zofran to block 5-HT3 nausea.  Eating some Ginger root or (better yet) taking some drops of Lemon essential oil precludes this nausea from occurring. 

Combine this with a filtered tea to remove the indigestible chitin and you have yourself a recipe for nausea-free success.


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