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InvisiblezZZz
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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #19071792 - 11/01/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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FruitOfLife said:
zZZz I have a question for you...

Lets say your great grand father murders someone elses great grand father. But now hundreds of years later you have to rot in prison for your entire life because your ancestor committed a crime.

That is the logic you are using right now





ok, but that's not what happened. look at it this way, what if you're great grandfather murdered a bunch of families and shit and took their land. and hundreds of years later you are still living on that land?, would you be ok with that?. sounds like you would be. personally i wouldn;t. even if it were my great grand father who murdered and stole.


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: fee]
    #19071826 - 11/01/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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fee said:
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Just because he lives in San Fran doesn't mean he is from a West Coast tribe



Oh I thought he was saying he lives right now on the east coast lol





I'm Mohawk from upper NY Vermont Canada area. But was born and raised in NH



St Regis/Akwesasne?  My father moved to St Regis Falls after he retired from the river.


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: zZZz]
    #19071832 - 11/01/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

In a sense that is what happened. I am perfectly fine with history. When the earth was created 4.5 billion years ago it didnt have land set aside for certain people and it wasnt first come first serve. When you get down to it, life is about survival of the fittest... The native americans were too weak to defend the land that wasnt even theirs to begin with so the strong came and took it.


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #19071841 - 11/01/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Relations with them were good and the founding fathers aka the strong saw the native americans as a step up and thought they could be assimilated

andrew jacksons mother however hated them and as a result they lost their place in american history


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: Konyap]
    #19071870 - 11/01/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So how about when natives fought other tribes to take their land and woman. She my tribe that doesn't actually exists anymore really be paying other tribes for doing this?


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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #19071884 - 11/01/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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FruitOfLife said:
In a sense that is what happened. I am perfectly fine with history. When the earth was created 4.5 billion years ago it didnt have land set aside for certain people and it wasnt first come first serve. When you get down to it, life is about survival of the fittest... The native americans were too weak to defend the land that wasnt even theirs to begin with so the strong came and took it.




this was not billions of years ago, compared to time it's like it just happened yesterday. and now it seems you are demeaning the native americans because your argument is flawed. if you truly knew their history you would know that they shared the land. they shared it with the first settlers but then the settlers got greedy, made borders, and started calling it their own, even now this ignorance still lives.


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: zZZz]
    #19071899 - 11/01/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zZZz said:
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FruitOfLife said:
In a sense that is what happened. I am perfectly fine with history. When the earth was created 4.5 billion years ago it didnt have land set aside for certain people and it wasnt first come first serve. When you get down to it, life is about survival of the fittest... The native americans were too weak to defend the land that wasnt even theirs to begin with so the strong came and took it.




this was not billions of years ago, compared to time it's like it just happened yesterday. and now it seems you are demeaning the native americans because your argument is flawed. if you truly knew their history you would know that they shared the land. they shared it with the first settlers but then the settlers got greedy, made borders, and started calling it their own, even now this ignorance still lives.





Bullshit

My people killed a shit ton of other tribes stole the land and the woman and children to join their tribe.


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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: zZZz]
    #19071904 - 11/01/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zZZz said:
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FruitOfLife said:
In a sense that is what happened. I am perfectly fine with history. When the earth was created 4.5 billion years ago it didnt have land set aside for certain people and it wasnt first come first serve. When you get down to it, life is about survival of the fittest... The native americans were too weak to defend the land that wasnt even theirs to begin with so the strong came and took it.




this was not billions of years ago, compared to time it's like it just happened yesterday. and now it seems you are demeaning the native americans because your argument is flawed. if you truly knew their history you would know that they shared the land. they shared it with the first settlers but then the settlers got greedy, made borders, and started calling it their own even now this ignorance still lives.



Ok then lets fast forward to the beginning of the human race... In tribes there were the hunters and gatherers and then people who stayed back at their site and cleaned or made shit or whatever. Either way everyone had a job and had to contribute. There was never someone who just slept around all day and got drunk. those types of people who were weak were kicked the fuck out of the tribe or probly killed.

Also... How is my argument flawed? My argument is that people should have to WORK for their money, not have it handed to them from some shit that happened hundreds of years ago. Your argument is flawed bro


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #19071908 - 11/01/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dude be fair and start with civilization.


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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: fee] * 1
    #19071929 - 11/01/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i have resentment of people who abuse the system and barely work a day in their life when i have never received any sort of assistance in my life and I am just a poor college student.

Maybe that's why the debt in this country blows. Some people get up to 800 dollars a month in food stamps. Can you imagine? I'm lucky to be able to buy 30 $ worth of groceries at a time.

Fuckin' leeches.

:kingcrankey:


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #19071939 - 11/01/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

this wasn't just some shit that happened years ago. this was BIG. united states big. the land was stolen and natives were forced off the land they relied on to survive, and now you are complaining that you have to pay for some lazy natives because of something that wasn't your fault. it wasn't your fault, but you still stand on stolen land, so pay up sucka.


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: lunarpiscean] * 1
    #19071945 - 11/01/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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lunarpiscean said:
i have resentment of people who abuse the system and barely work a day in their life when i have never received any sort of assistance in my life and I am just a poor college student.

Maybe that's why the debt in this country blows. Some people get up to 800 dollars a month in food stamps. Can you imagine? I'm lucky to be able to buy 30 $ worth of groceries at a time.

Fuckin' leeches.

:kingcrankey:



But going to college is the american dream (sarcasm)

The real american dream is being native american so you can drink booze all day and not have to work a day in your life and still know there is a check coming :thumbup:


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: zZZz]
    #19071952 - 11/01/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zZZz said:
this wasn't just some shit that happened years ago. this was BIG. united states big. the land was stolen and natives were forced off the land they relied on to survive, and now you are complaining that you have to pay for some lazy natives because of something that wasn't your fault. it wasn't your fault, but you still stand on stolen land, so pay up sucka.




England stole it and we stole it from England. England should pay sucka


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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #19071957 - 11/01/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

you say that like they're drowning in teh money


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: zZZz]
    #19071958 - 11/01/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

All nations are products of conquest.  That includes the Indian nations conquering other Indian nations.  They lost.  Fuck 'em.  They get special privileges enough.  What they do with them is up to them.


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: zZZz]
    #19071964 - 11/01/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zZZz said:
this wasn't just some shit that happened years ago. this was BIG. united states big. the land was stolen and natives were forced off the land they relied on to survive, and now you are complaining that you have to pay for some lazy natives because of something that wasn't your fault. it wasn't your fault, but you still stand on stolen land, so pay up sucka.



If the native americans have some sort of documentation that this land was theirs I will surrender my argument. But they cant because mother earth didnt give them this land. This is where the whole suvival of the fittest comes into play...


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #19071967 - 11/01/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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England stole it and we stole it from England. England should pay sucka




it's an illusion bro, england still owns it. there's no such thing as usa


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: zZZz]
    #19071975 - 11/01/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
All nations are products of conquest.  That includes the Indian nations conquering other Indian nations.  They lost.  Fuck 'em.  They get special privileges enough.  What they do with them is up to them.





They should get land and be thankful the white devil allotted that for them when they could have taken it all and told them to fuck off like any other government would have done


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zZZz said:
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England stole it and we stole it from England. England should pay sucka




it's an illusion bro, england still owns it. there's no such thing as usa





Dude I need to get my hands on the meth your smoking


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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19071977 - 11/01/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
All nations are products of conquest.  That includes the Indian nations conquering other Indian nations.  They lost.  Fuck 'em.  They get special privileges enough.  What they do with them is up to them.



On that note... I know african americans get special grants for school because I worked with a kid who had most of his college paid for and he said it was simply because he was black. So Im sure native americans get the same type of grants for college, yet only a very very small percent of native americans take advantage of this because they dont have to. Why goto school to work when you can just not work and still get paid :haha:


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Re: Food Stamps in the US are being cut [Re: fee]
    #19071988 - 11/01/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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fee said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
All nations are products of conquest.  That includes the Indian nations conquering other Indian nations.  They lost.  Fuck 'em.  They get special privileges enough.  What they do with them is up to them.





They should get land and be thankful the white devil allotted that for them when they could have taken it all and told them to fuck off like any other government would have done


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zZZz said:
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England stole it and we stole it from England. England should pay sucka




it's an illusion bro, england still owns it. there's no such thing as usa





Dude I need to get my hands on the meth your smoking



This is the one thing I agree on with ZZZ... I am not 100% sure but I heard that during the revolutionary war the english bank funded both sides of the war meaning we are and have been in debt to them this entire time?


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