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Synchronicity Experiment
    #19071572 - 11/01/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I would like to organize an experiment to prove synchronicity as an objective phenomena...a search for evidence.
This will be possible by recording your life as much as possible and keeping a journal of when you think you experienced a synchronicity with references to audio/visual recordings that you yourself have taken. Eventually we will be able to prove synchronicity because synchronicity tends to go against all mathematical odds. If we can do the math of the chances of stacked coincidences versus the amount of them that actually take place, I hypothesize that we will see that the accepted mathematical odds of stacked coincidences will be much greater than the actual occurrence of said coincidences or synchronicity...thus proving synchronicity as an actual phenomena. (please correct me if I'm wrong)

Personally, I experience synchronicity on the daily. I was beginning to record my life as much as I could and had some evidence in regards to the phenomena, but my phone with the videos and audio recordings was stolen just a few days ago which really sucks. Curiously synchronicity would increase with certain psychedelics, cannabis included. I just got a new phone and I am able to start recording again.

So what I am asking is if anyone here would like to participate in the experiment, by recording your life (with audio or visual) as much as possible, including all trips whilst keeping a journal referencing when you believe you experienced synchronicity (with audio or visual).

We can eventually cross reference evidence and do the math and see what the numbers are. If we can prove synchronicity as an actual phenomena than perhaps this experiment could lead too many many other findings..such as if something is trying to communicate through coordinated coincidences, destiny and free-will, extra-dimensional intelligences..etc.

Thoughts and ideas?

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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: hTx]
    #19071678 - 11/01/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You are not starting with a provable or disprovable hypothesis because you haven't even defined what your terms mean. This is another mush-brained attempt at a spirituality without traditional cues. You're outsmarting yourself. You can't do what you're suggesting because you don't have any control group. You cannot contrive a control group from those who wish to become a control group. Also synchronicity exists everywhere and in all thing. Humans have lungs - wowow - the synchronicity - there's also air to breathe.  I want to hear a Led Zeppelin song. Wowow - there's LZ on the radio. How is that possible? It's possible because it all exists right here and right now, or else we would never imagine it.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: eve69]
    #19071928 - 11/01/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I hypothesize that we will see that the accepted mathematical odds of stacked coincidences will be much greater than the actual occurrence of said coincidences or synchronicity...thus proving synchronicity as an actual phenomena.
Well OP is about organizing an experiment so help me out here. No need for name calling!  :facepalm3: 
Why would I need a control, and what terms would need to be defined? This is more about gathering objective evidence than an experiment I suppose...but what's the difference?

My synchronicities are a lot more involved than thinking about LZ and than hearing them on the radio or something. It's more like an echoing of thought/action/discussion into space-time, or like a tapping into the collective unconscious.

Why can't consciousness be explored scientifically, and how is my technique for gathering objective evidence of synchronicity flawed?

I'm asking out of serious inquiry, not out of spite. Help me refine it, tighten the screws a bit.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: hTx]
    #19072054 - 11/01/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

o0o0o0 facebook statuses as well. Many people will post the same things at the same time completely unrelated to each other. (not talking about football games or anything like that)

collective unconscious can be proven objectively true with information gathered from FB. amirght?


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: hTx]
    #19073681 - 11/02/13 05:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can't explain how scientific experiments go because it would take a whole book.  If you start with any sort of bias however then your result will be skewed except if you have the basic elements for true scientific inquiry.  Which given the nature of the subject is too vast for any conclusions to be drawn. 

A more cohesive subject for study would not look towards all synchronicities but towards one very specific synchronicity. It would be further demonstrated by the situation being a difficult one in basic terms.  For instance, how many people who are without money for the subway happen upon it in their morning travel to the underground?  If all people somehow came upon the amount of money they needed without exacting some specific effort then synchronicity would be seen. But if say only ten percent of people found the money then it would be more like chance. The terms of the synchronicity, do you understand, need to be limited to a set of duplicable (or not) circumstances that can be reenacted, or else it isn't science.

The basic rule of scientific pursuit is to be able to reenact the experiment and come up with the same results - time after time. Anything less is mush-thinking.

I knew you would take the mush-thinking adjective wrong, but I use it here at this forum to shine a light on a particular type of person who cares little for anything actually true but more for sitting around with a bunch of pals all of whom bank each other's preposterously indefinite thoughts and then they feel they have given themselves definition, when really they have just added to the incoherence of their own brain, and of society.

I didn't mean you to take the mush-thinking personally. We all do it.  But you do fall into the category of mush thinkers.  I understand your post was meant to raise a subject for discussion and I applaud you that.  But if you seriously were considering this topic you would require much more rigorous and scientific mental skill set - unless you were working for some new guru who again wants to baffle people with bullshit pseudo-science just to sell your snake-oil.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: eve69]
    #19073741 - 11/02/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

as if you can judge my scientific and mental skillset from two posts and what type of reaction do you expect when you go around calling people mush-brained thinkers. ill get mush-brained sometimes off a few gs of shrooms perhaps but your definitely attempting to insult.

You clearly don't understand what I'm attempting to do, that much is definite as well. Also your shallow understanding of what a synchroncity is, clearly shows as well. People finding money for the bus all at once? thafuk.

If you want me to define synchronicity you should have just said so. You seem to think they are miracles or something.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: hTx]
    #19073858 - 11/02/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Thoughts and ideas?




Thoughts.. this is a hard one.

What are we even doing here?
Trying to prove what to who?
Do you think the universe gives you signs while you walk your spiritual path?
Does it seem done in an intelligent way?
Does it seem like it has the power to shape your reality?
Does it look like it wants to be exposed and proven?
What's the hypothesis?


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: cbub]
    #19074451 - 11/02/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Don't Shit on a fun experiment.

I won't participate but I was very interested in seeing what became of this thread.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: Yogi1]
    #19074515 - 11/02/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's only fun if there could be a reward for participation. And by reward in this case I mean some kind of outcome. But the scenario is too ill defined to yield any outcome. Also, the OP is too hot headed to be able to endure any criticism.  So -FAIL-  That's my reading.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: eve69]
    #19074541 - 11/02/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No it was fun because those who participated could have compared their own subjective experiences.

It's a loose experiment but one nonetheless.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: Yogi1]
    #19074948 - 11/02/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, now I get it. This was just a campfire type experiment. Like you bring the vinegar and I'll bring the baking soda and together we'll make a volcano. 

My dumbz. I thought the OP was actually trying investigative method to try to find some objective truth.

Just because this is the mystical forum doesn't mean we don't have any scientific understanding.

I understand making talk. I should have just left this one alone. I should leave them all alone.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: eve69]
    #19075022 - 11/02/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Funny old bastard is funny.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: cbub]
    #19081590 - 11/03/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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cbub said:
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Thoughts and ideas?







Thoughts.. this is a hard one.

What are we even doing here? Prove synchronicity as an objective phenomena, Carl Jung and many quantum physicists experience it and talk about it but haven't really moved towards proving it as an actual phenomena of human consciousness.
Trying to prove what to who? Anyone and everyone, even ourselves.
Do you think the universe gives you signs while you walk your spiritual path? Yes and no. And that synchronicity is both these signs and not these signs.
Does it seem done in an intelligent way? Yes and no, when it does seem done in an intelligent way, its pretty terrifying.
Does it seem like it has the power to shape your reality? It does and it doesn't. Mostly though this isn't about shaping your own reality.
Does it look like it wants to be exposed and proven? Yes, to myself at least.
What's the hypothesis? I hypothesize that we will see that the accepted mathematical odds of these types of coincidences occurring will be much greater than the actual occurrence of said coincidences or synchronicity...thus proving synchronicity as an actual phenomena.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: hTx]
    #19085293 - 11/04/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ok I'm game, what's the plan?


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: cbub]
    #19087715 - 11/04/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've been having lots of weird synchronicities in my life the past week or so. People keep mentioning kinda obscure things that I was JUST thinking about, or that I had a dream about and weird stuff like that.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19087999 - 11/04/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ok I'm game, what's the plan?



We need to start recording them. I have recorded two major synchronicities since I started this post with audio, and I recorded them into a synchronicity/dream journal I started awhile back.

So start writing down when you believe you experienced synchronicity and I know they are pretty random...but sometimes you get a 'feel' for when they are about to occur, and sometimes they will stack up so if you have the means, record them with video/audio.

I'll start a website or something here in the next two weeks where we can start submitting/comparing evidence. Also take screenshots of facebook statuses that occur around the same time from different people talking about the same thing (not football games or anything like that, typically they are about feelings or a statement of some kind a true coincidence.)

The key here is objective evidence (SS, audio/visual) with comparison to the journals kept so that others can witness your synchronicity as well...and also to figure out if they happened due to things like unconscious social cues or something like that.



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I've been having lots of weird synchronicities in my life the past week or so. People keep mentioning kinda obscure things that I was JUST thinking about, or that I had a dream about and weird stuff like that.




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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: hTx]
    #19088036 - 11/04/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Actually we could just use the shroomery to post video/audio/ss evidence I just realized.

I understand this is a very loose experiment, btw. Still though, just the fact that I've been doing this has increased my own experience of synchronicity tremendously..

I feel with enough participants and evidence, we'll get some stuff that is pretty undeniable.

Pay attention to 'double-speak' as well, phrases that could have multiple meanings.  Once you pick up on this, you may notice many more synchronicities that you may have disregarded as regular conversation, as I have.


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Re: Synchronicity Experiment [Re: hTx]
    #19088240 - 11/05/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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hTx said:
Actually we could just use the shroomery to post video/audio/ss evidence I just realized.

I understand this is a very loose experiment, btw. Still though, just the fact that I've been doing this has increased my own experience of synchronicity tremendously..

I feel with enough participants and evidence, we'll get some stuff that is pretty undeniable.

Pay attention to 'double-speak' as well, phrases that could have multiple meanings.  Once you pick up on this, you may notice many more synchronicities that you may have disregarded as regular conversation, as I have.




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