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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Raven Gnosis] * 1
    #19073479 - 11/02/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've grown recently to have an appreciation for Tibetan Buddhism and its teaching to contemplate death, often.
I picked up this small book a couple months ago called Life in Relation to Death, it has all the legal framework for setting up your living will, power of attorney in serious life threatening situations, DNRs, and what to do with your remains when you die.
It's a good meditative practice with death and just a good idea in general. :thumbup:




Cool lookin' book. I think I'm gunna check this out. Thanks. :thumbup:


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #19073488 - 11/02/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So you are convinced that these people are at peace? Not just accepting death but finally and fully at peace with death? Content, relaxed, peaceful if not joyful?


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #19073563 - 11/02/13 03:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's really different with everyone.

Never seen someone joyful. I'll let you know if I ever do. :lol:
But at peace, open, clean... Yes.
Those people's transitions into death are always the smoothest and dare I say, beautiful.

I've seen the complete opposite end of the spectrum too, quite ugly and stick with you in a way you wish you could shed, like too many layers while hiking up a mountain.


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #19073567 - 11/02/13 03:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'll bet.  Fear like that would be very ugly.  Especially for the one feeling it. :sad:


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Icelander]
    #19073570 - 11/02/13 03:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

kind of reminds me of tripping..


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Icelander]
    #19073582 - 11/02/13 04:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ugh, yeah... :sad:

I think being empathetic is why it sticks with me so bad, because I am relating with them and deeply imagining feeling and going through the same thing.
Atleast it teaches me how useless responding like that is.

Although I strongly doubt I will, I just hope that if I respond like that, I have the time to work through it.

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kind of reminds me of tripping..



Indeed, I've found the parallels that the two seem to share uncanny. 

I feel this is why psilocybin has had success with easing the dying process of terminally ill patients.

I've felt as if and have been fully convinced that I was dying on trips before, it's no surprise that the greatest relief I felt was when I let go and just accepted, lol.
Always has been followed by a profound appreciation for living...

I've heard medicine men say things along the lines of them being tools to practice dying, it's no wonder. :crazy2:


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #19073594 - 11/02/13 04:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think more exciting than the brain's conceptual notions of death and what it could be, is the out of body experience.

Nothing is more astonishing than remembering Who in fact You are, though.


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: circastes]
    #19073624 - 11/02/13 04:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think your posts are often the poster child for DA.  At least imo.


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Icelander]
    #19073633 - 11/02/13 04:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: cez]
    #19074072 - 11/02/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

death?

what y'all know 'bout death?


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: stzacrack]
    #19074168 - 11/02/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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death?

what y'all know 'bout death?




Not enough yet.

Think you know something?
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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #19074179 - 11/02/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i know you'll find out someday

if i'm lucky maybe i will too


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: stzacrack]
    #19074192 - 11/02/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Consider yourself in luck, my friend.
Ain't nothin' gunna stop your bodies capacity for cellular regeneration from failing.
We're lucky if we make it that far.


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #19074200 - 11/02/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you ever go to ogreish.com when you were younger? (spelling?)

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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: stzacrack]
    #19074679 - 11/02/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Elisabeth Kubler-Ross released a book called Death and Dying, and in it, she laid out these psychological stages that people go through while dying. I believe it was that book she mentioned it, I can't remember, but she talks about dying as an art, and how we can all learn to die and pass away gracefully without resistance and with courage.
I thought it was interesting when I was reading some of the comments section for this book on Amazon, and people on there were saying that this book wasn't for those who were dying, because it was telling them to "accept their death." So I guess some people can carry that denial into the end, and it just depends on the person whether or not they'll accept it and try to die peacefully.


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #19074912 - 11/02/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hospice, that was involved in my path to removal of DA as well. My dad was unconcious for 3 days. All I wanted to do was ask him what to do. My brother, the day my dad was moved to hospice, either OD'd or commited suicide.

Just found it interesting you brought up hospice. I personally had no idea it was for people to die. I thought it was like any other extended hospital stay we had with him for around 10 years of cancer. What a painful realization that was on the ride home on day 3.


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: Atrium]
    #19076226 - 11/02/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: circastes]
    #19077852 - 11/02/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I think more exciting than the brain's conceptual notions of death and what it could be, is the out of body experience.

Nothing is more astonishing than remembering Who in fact You are, though.




The other night while lying on the floor where I sleep, I found myself in this exquisite wooden house, meeting with shining colourful lights in the walls while enjoying stunning psychedelic visuals in all the wood grains. These experiences don't seem to change anything in any way at all.


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #19077978 - 11/02/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think for me those experiences do help when I'm drowning in my own self-pity.

I forget myself momentarily, then come back and realize none of this bullshit matters...So why do I occasionally take it so seriously?


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Re: Death Anxiety 101 [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #19077994 - 11/03/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm the experience I'm talking about isn't passive like a dream, it's the weirdest shit ever and it continually presents the same way suggesting it's another level of this reality. We have some other form in this level, it's been described as an 'energy body' and it feels pretty much like an awkward energetic version of the physical body.

What these extraordinary experiences say to me is that it's out of my hands and it's alright. Life is good, no need put it up or down, it's going to work out just do whatever pleases you.


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