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Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid
    #19070361 - 11/01/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Will blowing a fan into a SGFC have the same effect as using the lid to fan it?  If so, why don't more people do it?  A FC isn't a sterile environment anyway so how would a fan hurt?  Is a standard table top electric fan pointed in the FC not able to 'release all the gases' whereas fanning with the lid does?


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19070384 - 11/01/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Because humidity won't stay up, right now I have mine in a little closet, and I have one of those humidifiers that blows air apparently with some invisible mist in it, 3 bucks at goodwill, I put it on at night, circulates air in the closet, and just a little bit blows through the terrarium, while keeping humidity, this has been working well, with misting and fanning added.


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: solo11]
    #19070416 - 11/01/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I apologize, I should have been more clear.

I'm not talking about a fan running constantly. 

'Normally' from 3 to 6 times per day people often times simply lift the lid off of the SGFC, fan it with the lid for 1 minute, and then replace the lid.  Instead of fanning with the lid, if a person were to point a fan at the FC for 1 minute then remove the fan and place the lid back on wouldn't it have the same effect as fanning with the lid?


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19070422 - 11/01/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You could use the fan in place of the lid after
misting. It's not recommended that you use a fan
at all. Pointed towards your FC would drastically
cause your substrate to dry out.
I would only use one If absolutely needed, such as
no fresh air exchange or stale air in my fruiting room.
It doesn't have anything to do with having a sterile
environment.

As to what's said about about humidity, fresh air exchange
or passing air through the perlite using a SGFC is what infact
creates the desired humidity.


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19070441 - 11/01/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Is fanning really that strenuous?


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19070450 - 11/01/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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EastBayRay said:
Will blowing a fan into a SGFC have the same effect as using the lid to fan it?  If so, why don't more people do it?  A FC isn't a sterile environment anyway so how would a fan hurt?  Is a standard table top electric fan pointed in the FC not able to 'release all the gases' whereas fanning with the lid does?




Blasting a fan at yr cakes for a few seconds will basically have the same effect as flapping a lid in the same place for a while, correct. :shrug:


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19070451 - 11/01/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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DynGBreeD said:
You could use the fan in place of the lid after
misting. It's not recommended that you use a fan
at all. Pointed towards your FC would drastically
cause your substrate to dry out.
I would only use one If absolutely needed, such as
no fresh air exchange or stale air in my fruiting room.
It doesn't have anything to do with having a sterile
environment.

As to what's said about about humidity, fresh air exchange
or passing air through the perlite using a SGFC is what infact
creates the desired humidity.




Would spraying the substrate in the SGFC with water and then pointing a fan at it for let's say, 30 to 60 seconds, provide gas exchange and not dry out the substrate?  I don't see how it would be an issue if the substrate and perlite is getting misted with water.
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Is fanning really that strenuous?




A response to this question is subjective depending upon one's setup or number of FCs. So the answer is yes or no :tongue:


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19070477 - 11/01/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Using a fan three times a day after misting is fine.


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19070530 - 11/01/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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EastBayRay said:
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SpitballJedi said:

Is fanning really that strenuous?




A response to this question is subjective depending upon one's setup or number of FCs. So the answer is yes or no :tongue:




Being as you are the subject, then I would say your answer would be one OR the other.


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19070549 - 11/01/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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SpitballJedi said:
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EastBayRay said:
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SpitballJedi said:

Is fanning really that strenuous?




A response to this question is subjective depending upon one's setup or number of FCs. So the answer is yes or no :tongue:




Being as you are the subject, then I would say your answer would be one OR the other.


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19070563 - 11/01/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well, if you want to be even more lazy, set up a relay of small vacuums ( like the little pumps to fill up water tubes, anything inflateable ) in succession on a timer for say 30 seconds every four hours per day, and while you're at it, on the same relay create a jumper to mist immediatley before and immediatley after for say 3 seconds each. Ya know, like the produce misters at the grociery store.


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19070621 - 11/01/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Well, if you want to be even more lazy, set up a relay of small vacuums ( like the little pumps to fill up water tubes, anything inflateable ) in succession on a timer for say 30 seconds every four hours per day, and while you're at it, on the same relay create a jumper to mist immediatley before and immediatley after for say 3 seconds each. Ya know, like the produce misters at the grociery store.


  Very true.  A more automated setup requiring the use of something such as a repeat cycle timer among other things would have been a better route to take.


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19070756 - 11/01/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i use a fan instead of the lid itself manually whenever i'm fanning anything


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: rumfor69]
    #19070959 - 11/01/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not really related, but I seemed to have good results manually fanning 3-5 times a day, misting twice a day, and after each mist using a small handheld fan to promote evaporation. Using an electric fan vs doing it manually probably doesn't make much of a difference, the key is fresh air. Just be sure not to leave the fan on too long!


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19110262 - 11/09/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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EastBayRay said:
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SpitballJedi said:
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EastBayRay said:
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SpitballJedi said:

Is fanning really that strenuous?




A response to this question is subjective depending upon one's setup or number of FCs. So the answer is yes or no :tongue:




Being as you are the subject, then I would say your answer would be one OR the other.


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: EastBayRay]
    #22817857 - 01/24/16 06:42 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

"I have a 2m x 2m greenhouse setup"
Oh wow, yeah that looks dumb as sorry guys I wrote a whole page when i posted this one line popped up grrrr ok I'll try and remember it all haha
I have a 2m x 2m greenhouse setup with a desk fan pointing in one window, and a window on the opposite side shut, it sits on concrete with air gaps at the bottom, when the fan comes on the whole greenhouse puffs up and forces the co2 laden air down through the gaps in the bottom. The fan comes on for 15min every 2 hours after a good misting, mostly trays with a verm layer on top.
The whole aim isn't to keep constant high rh, but to continually evaporate and replace moisture- oppose to creating an environment with constant rh. This environment will favor mushrooms and not ........ Everything else. haha
It's like everyone on here thinks Stamets is a fool or something? Read Stamets. :wink:
Evaporation or "how often you need to mist cakes" is directly related to temp. The hotter it is the faster water evaporates so the faster you can spray again- to a point, So from what I've seen in the right temp. (Latest observations were on Escondido at an average of 45•c daytime temps-its summer here) You only need to fan an sgfc every so often (other then to speed up water evaporation) to push away the stagnant air which will have a hell of a lot more ppm of co2 then the air outside the fc. (Which on average fresh air has I think 350ppm co2 roughly depending where you are lol)
But the reason you shouldn't have a fan on in the room with an sgfc is that it messes with the high and low pressure zones created in this artificial environment some clever poeple spent hooooooooouuuuurs designing. But if you are constantly checking it and misting when needed I think it would be OK if not even speed up onset of pins then size of fruit.
I said it best the first time now I'm just lost haha
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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: EastBayRay]
    #22817900 - 01/24/16 07:15 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: Blu33]
    #22817910 - 01/24/16 07:25 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

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I have a 2m x 2m greenhouse setup



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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: PussyFart]
    #22818101 - 01/24/16 09:18 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

I dont fan SGFC at all. :pipesmoke:


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Re: Just Blow a Fan into SGFC Instead of Fanning W/ Lid [Re: mushpunx]
    #22825761 - 01/26/16 04:01 AM (8 years, 5 days ago)

True, sweet as. my little sgfc is just for fruiting lab cakes so to speak to test an isolated strains potential on a small scale before doing trays or tubs. But my lab is quite air tight in a small study so the air stagnates real quick so ive tried using the same fanning schedule as my greenhouse- 15min on every 2 hours after heavy misting, But only had half way decent success like that on one ms cake so far, But Im pretty sure that was just freak genetics cause I got like over 10g fresh from the first flush of one cake (tiny 50ml lab cakes) and 3 other cakes had small twisted and deformed fruits with what appeared to be rosecomb and clearly visible cracks. And I was obbssesively checking them so idk..
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