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jolo
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Do mushrooms produce bacteria?
#19069810 - 11/01/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If a mushroom were to grow in a sterile environment, would the environment stay sterile or would the mushroom itself produce bacteria that would cause the environment to not be sterile any longer?
Pretty mushrooms fruiting on Agar. I don't ask this question because of the agar here, but it goes along with the question.
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: jolo]
#19069843 - 11/01/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmmmm. are you asking if fungi have the power of creating life? to create an organism quite different from the species they are themselves? a bit like generatio spontanae? i believe bacteria are born from saliva, if you spit on agar, bacteria spontaneaously emerge from it.
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: jolo] 1
#19069864 - 11/01/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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jolo said: If a mushroom were to grow in a sterile environment, would the environment stay sterile or would the mushroom itself produce bacteria that would cause the environment to not be sterile any longer?
There was once a man named Louis Pasteur....

EDIT: Damnit, Pasteur did it with broth... the pick is of Francesco Redi s work.... still applies.
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: urthtown]
#19069899 - 11/01/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe the fungus spits and from they're saliva bacteria are born. maybe it's a new domain, not archaea, bateria or some kind of protist, but a super fungus-unicellular-way-cooler-than-yeast-creature
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: forrest]
#19069903 - 11/01/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmmmmmm science
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: urthtown]
#19069908 - 11/01/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright, so as long as no flies get into my jars I won't have a maggot problem. And as long as they don't get on top of my jars, there won't be any maggots on top of the jars.
That covered my next question.
But as far as mushrooms producing any bacteria, do they?
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: jolo]
#19069921 - 11/01/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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sorry for making fun. but no, fungi can't produce other organisms than other fungi. althoug they have endosomatic bacteria in they're cells called mitochondira. wich in theory they might be eble to eject....
but the agar wouldn't be sterile anyway if there were fungi on it.
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: jolo]
#19069931 - 11/01/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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jolo said: Alright, so as long as no flies get into my jars I won't have a maggot problem. And as long as they don't get on top of my jars, there won't be any maggots on top of the jars.
That covered my next question.
But as far as mushrooms producing any bacteria, do they?
WOW... If there are no bacteria within a sealed and sterilized environment (i.e. a sealed, PC'd glass jar) there is as much likelihood of the mycelium generating a spontaneous bacteria as there is the mycelium producing a second coming of jesus christ. The Redi experiment was a simile to your question....
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: forrest]
#19069957 - 11/01/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay listen this is all I'm asking. I know the agar wouldn't be sterile since there was fungi on it but you know exactly what I mean.
Lets say I had grain spawn that fruited invitro. Could I G2G this jar into another jar without having to worry about that fruit contaminating the new jars?
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: jolo]
#19069977 - 11/01/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You didn't have to be a dick about it. I didn't know if the mushroom would decompose eventually and create some type of bacteria in the jar that could negatively effect future expansion of the mycelium.
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: jolo]
#19070001 - 11/01/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bacteria is an animal....you are asking if a decomposing fungus will spontaneously spawn an organism that isn't even in the same kingdom of life as it's self. So to answer your question...NO...fungi cannot produce animals.
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: jolo]
#19070013 - 11/01/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mushrooms won't produce bacteria in the same way that I have never produced bacteria
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: Skinty]
#19070017 - 11/01/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Skinty said: Mushrooms won't produce bacteria in the same way that I have never produced bacteria 
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: Nakor420]
#19070041 - 11/01/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sometimes grain jars pin when something is already wrong, I just fruited a jar that sat for four months and never pinned, i,'ve used jars with pins as spawn with no issue and they just revert back to myc and don't rot or cause bacteria
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: jolo]
#19070081 - 11/01/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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jolo said: You didn't have to be a dick about it. I didn't know if the mushroom would decompose eventually and create some type of bacteria in the jar that could negatively effect future expansion of the mycelium.
Wasn't trying to be a dick but your question was LITERALLY on the scale of: can my dog ever produce a golden eagle?
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: Nakor420]
#19070206 - 11/01/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Skinty said: Mushrooms won't produce bacteria in the same way that I have never produced bacteria 

Please enlighten me....
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: Skinty]
#19070269 - 11/01/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bacteria are not related to animals, they're actually about the most unrelated to animals of any of the major classifications. Mushrooms on the other hand are more closely related to animals than plants. They still do not produce bacteria though.
On the one hand the question is rather dumb, but he may be asking if mushrooms produce bacteria in the same sense as a seed will harbour bacteria, in which case the answer is no, mushroom spores do not harbour bacteria. To say whether humans, or seeds, produce bacteria while technically they don't, many bacteria would not exist if the seeds or hosts did not harbour them and aid in their reproduction so it's kind of based on your perspective really. Does the earth produce humans?
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: krypto2000]
#19070318 - 11/01/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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that is a nice reply. but producing is then just a bad choice of words. the earth doesn't produce humans, like a barrel of wheat doesn't produce mice. it creates an environment that supports a certain form of life, but it doesn't necesarily mean the lifeform comes into being.
i'm also curious as to why the godzillah facepalm.
also, tissue can degrade by plasmolysis, enzymes breaking down the cell parts, not just by bacteria. for if you think degredation is inherent to bacteria. (to the OP)
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: Skinty]
#19070429 - 11/01/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Skinty said:
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Nakor420 said:
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Skinty said: Mushrooms won't produce bacteria in the same way that I have never produced bacteria 

Please enlighten me....
Still waiting....
(or did you engage your brain yet?)
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Re: Do mushrooms produce bacteria? [Re: Skinty]
#19071086 - 11/01/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nakor420 was probably just misunderstanding the word "produce", humans don't produce or generate any bacteria, but we do harbor tons of them. Apparently during and right after birth, bacteria from your mom and surrounding environment rapidly colonize your gut and other areas. Kind of weird to think about, but cool
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