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learning sponge said: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/31/inside-china-nuclear-submarines-capable-of-widespr/
they wanna blow up seattle
I don't think they want to, but they have no real choice but to have nuclear deterrence against the states.
It would be impossible to imagine China not developing these capabilities, really.
Cool news story though.
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Re: china nukes [Re: Moonshoe]
#19068903 - 11/01/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks like the Chinese dragon is uncoiling its tail...
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Re: china nukes [Re: Moonshoe]
#19068917 - 11/01/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: china nukes [Re: Moonshoe] 1
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They won't be blowing up the USA any time soon. Why the fuck would a country that has more money owed to them then any other debt ever in history start a war with them?
And on top of the money they would loose from just the debt we owe the vanishing, the fact alone that some shit like 50 or 60% of all goods made there is imported to th USA. During war trading with those countries is halted and if they nuked us I'm sure we wouldn't be making any new trade arrangments anytime soon. And merca can't live without iPhones and China can't live without our its a good relationship.
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Re: china nukes [Re: fee]
#19068971 - 11/01/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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fee said: They won't be blowing up the USA any time soon. Why the fuck would a country that has more money owed to them then any other debt ever in history start a war with them?
And on top of the money they would loose from just the debt we owe the vanishing, the fact alone that some shit like 50 or 60% of all goods made there is imported to th USA. During war trading with those countries is halted and if they nuked us I'm sure we wouldn't be making any new trade arrangments anytime soon. And merca can't live without iPhones and China can't live without our its a good relationship.
Unless they realize the only way to get those debts actually paid back is to use force or the threat of force?
Just thinking out loud...
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Re: china nukes [Re: Moonshoe]
#19068979 - 11/01/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said:
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fee said: They won't be blowing up the USA any time soon. Why the fuck would a country that has more money owed to them then any other debt ever in history start a war with them?
And on top of the money they would loose from just the debt we owe the vanishing, the fact alone that some shit like 50 or 60% of all goods made there is imported to th USA. During war trading with those countries is halted and if they nuked us I'm sure we wouldn't be making any new trade arrangments anytime soon. And merca can't live without iPhones and China can't live without our its a good relationship.
Unless they realize the only way to get those debts actually paid back is to use force or the threat of force?
Just thinking out loud...
All of their jobs start in america
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Re: china nukes [Re: fee] 2
#19068985 - 11/01/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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fee said: They won't be blowing up the USA any time soon. Why the fuck would a country that has more money owed to them then any other debt ever in history start a war with them?
And on top of the money they would loose from just the debt we owe the vanishing, the fact alone that some shit like 50 or 60% of all goods made there is imported to th USA. During war trading with those countries is halted and if they nuked us I'm sure we wouldn't be making any new trade arrangments anytime soon. And merca can't live without iPhones and China can't live without our its a good relationship.
Maybe they are interested in repopulating the world with han chinese and money is a secondary objective. If that is the case then they would have no problem eliminating major US cities.
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Re: china nukes [Re: Moonshoe]
#19069008 - 11/01/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seems like their philosophy generally is to avoid wars unless they think they can win them decisively.
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Re: china nukes [Re: psi]
#19069068 - 11/01/13 10:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had a premonition the next holocaust will be americans
someone said theyre waiting untill our currency is worthless and then take back their debt through our land
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learning sponge said: I had a premonition the next holocaust will be americans
someone said theyre waiting untill our currency is worthless and then take back their debt through our land
Yes I dont think the Chinese will need Nukes to unseat America as the new global super power, they are already while on their way to doing it Economically. America has never looked weaker and more reviled on the global stage.
So it seems to me anyways.
Even the most patriotic Americans are realizing how corrupt and vicious their own government is. Now the American Government is hated not only by the rest of the world but also by their own people.
I am not sure how long this situation can go on, but one way or another it seems that something has to give.
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Re: china nukes [Re: Moonshoe] 2
#19069095 - 11/01/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Instead of complaining about our Government shouldn't we exercise our right to create a new one? Pretty sure that's written down on some old piece of parchment…
I think our problem is that we are #1 in the world at bitching
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Re: china nukes [Re: Moonshoe]
#19069099 - 11/01/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said:
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learning sponge said: I had a premonition the next holocaust will be americans
someone said theyre waiting untill our currency is worthless and then take back their debt through our land
Yes I dont think the Chinese will need Nukes to unseat America as the new global super power, they are already while on their way to doing it Economically. America has never looked weaker and more reviled on the global stage.
So it seems to me anyways.
Even the most patriotic Americans are realizing how corrupt and vicious their own government is. Now the American Government is hated not only by the rest of the world but also by their own people.
I am not sure how long this situation can go on, but one way or another it seems that something has to give.
um I don't hate America..yeah Obama sucks but im free as hell and obamas helping me with free medical care...I would never turn my back on my country..and no ones takeing over America unless they can disarm our nukes...chinas nukes are based off old soviet technology...china has more man power but wed smoke em with our technology and our better more accurate ICBM's
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Lol we're fucking merica we're goonna fuck them in the ass before they get a chance to blow us up
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and don't make me link you to globalsecurity .org to show you we have much more military hardware than china
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learning sponge said:
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Moonshoe said:
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learning sponge said: I had a premonition the next holocaust will be americans
someone said theyre waiting untill our currency is worthless and then take back their debt through our land
Yes I dont think the Chinese will need Nukes to unseat America as the new global super power, they are already while on their way to doing it Economically. America has never looked weaker and more reviled on the global stage.
So it seems to me anyways.
Even the most patriotic Americans are realizing how corrupt and vicious their own government is. Now the American Government is hated not only by the rest of the world but also by their own people.
I am not sure how long this situation can go on, but one way or another it seems that something has to give.
um I don't hate America..yeah Obama sucks but im free as hell and obamas helping me with free medical care...I would never turn my back on my country..and no ones takeing over America unless they can disarm our nukes...chinas nukes are based off old soviet technology...china has more man power but wed smoke em with our technology and our better more accurate ICBM's
Again, I dont think they are going to attack with military. What will likely happen is the Chinese and other governments (Russians, Indians etc) will drop the american greenback as the global currency. When they do Americas economy will detonate and the center of power will shift after a period of instability.
I don't know what the exact ramifications of that are, but it likely means the flow of goods will change, perhaps even reverse.
We are already seeing Chinese exporting less goods to America and purchasing more of their own goods domestically (growing middle class etc). We may see the day when American factory workers slave to build products for export to Chinese consumer markets.
Just speculation. Many commentators observe that in general terms the power is shifting from West to East, but I don't know for sure what is going on.
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Re: china nukes [Re: Moonshoe]
#19069165 - 11/01/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah it would make no sense for them to invade or launch nukes, even if they had a more powerful military and nuclear arsenal than the US has (which could well happen in the not too distant future.) Between nuclear powers, the only value of nuclear weapons is as a deterrent really.
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Re: china nukes [Re: Moonshoe]
#19069171 - 11/01/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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volcomstoner said: Lol we're fucking merica we're goonna fuck them in the ass before they get a chance to blow us up

Need we be reminded? 'Merica could beat the entire world combined.
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learning sponge said:
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Moonshoe said:
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learning sponge said: I had a premonition the next holocaust will be americans
someone said theyre waiting untill our currency is worthless and then take back their debt through our land
Yes I dont think the Chinese will need Nukes to unseat America as the new global super power, they are already while on their way to doing it Economically. America has never looked weaker and more reviled on the global stage.
So it seems to me anyways.
Even the most patriotic Americans are realizing how corrupt and vicious their own government is. Now the American Government is hated not only by the rest of the world but also by their own people.
I am not sure how long this situation can go on, but one way or another it seems that something has to give.
um I don't hate America..yeah Obama sucks but im free as hell and obamas helping me with free medical care...I would never turn my back on my country..and no ones takeing over America unless they can disarm our nukes...chinas nukes are based off old soviet technology...china has more man power but wed smoke em with our technology and our better more accurate ICBM's
Again, I dont think they are going to attack with military. What will likely happen is the Chinese and other governments (Russians, Indians etc) will drop the american greenback as the global currency. When they do Americas economy will detonate and the center of power will shift after a period of instability.
I don't know what the exact ramifications of that are, but it likely means the flow of goods will change, perhaps even reverse.
We are already seeing Chinese exporting less goods to America and purchasing more of their own goods domestically (growing middle class etc). We may see the day when American factory workers slave to build products for export to Chinese consumer markets.
Just speculation. Many commentators observe that in general terms the power is shifting from West to East, but I don't know for sure what is going on.
An all seriousness though I have to agree with Moonshoe.
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Re: china nukes [Re: psi] 2
#19069175 - 11/01/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think that's pretty stupid of china to reveal targets like that...ive never liked Chinese people
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Need we be reminded? 'Merica could beat the entire world combined.
Yeah, it was pretty cool when the soviets, japanese, germans and british teamed up and tried to invade america in 1941, but the minutemen rallied and cracked a liberty bell open and said something about going to texas or hell or similar. And the world's ass was thoroughly kicked.
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