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Question about Cyans?
    #19067161 - 10/31/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hello,
I'm visiting the PNW from the east coast for a few weeks. I've done a lot of research on ps cyanescens, and today while out in a park around Tacoma, I came across a patch of about 7 mature cyans. These were about 4-5 inches in length, and had wavy caps that were caramel-white-ish with some faint shades of brown (like a dark caramel). I found them off a trail a little, hidden under some brush next to some alder and other hardwood trees within 15 yards of a bed of wood chips. Their stems were white and had faint traces of blue-ish green throughout. When I picked them, the stems bruised a much more noticeable color of blue-green, and the caps bruised a dark color on top of the visible canvas of its original color. Spore prints were dark black/purple, and the gills looked like a dark chocolate brown. I'm certain that today's finds were cyans.

My experience eating them/question:
I ate 7 fresh mushrooms tonight. I felt happy, laid back, slight body high, and everything that I saw was in high-definition. I ate them about 3 hours ago and still feel the effects, but it clearly did not turn into anything more than a "level 1 trip" or a mere buzz.

I've noticed plenty of pictures of cyans on here that people have picked that were the same color: a slightly lighter yellowy caramel covered cap, but I've also found a lot of pictures where the cyan caps were more of a solid caramel color.

Is this due to the mushroom going through different phases? It seems like when they're pinning and right after when the caps start to wave they're that dark colored caramel, and maybe after some time the cap color fades slightly? Can anyone verify this?
Also, if this theory is true, does the psylocybin content decrease at all, or is it the same as when they're the darker caramel color?

I'm not sure what I ate fresh in grams exactly, but I don't think it was more than 5-6 grams (fresh). I guess what I want to know is, did I not eat enough fresh mushrooms, or was there a drop off in potency during the later stage of the mushrooms? I'm just confused because I thought that the cyanescens were supposed to be one of the most potent psychedlic mushroom in the country.

I'm sorry if anything of these questions seem stupid, hopefully someone can help me.

Thanks.


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: thirdeye728]
    #19067256 - 11/01/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

take pictures and get them identified in the id forum

here's a link : www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/3

know it or throw it..


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: thirdeye728]
    #19067284 - 11/01/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

5-6 grams fresh cyans would be approximate to .5-6g dry.  The trip you described was about what you would expect from that amount.
 
You could take like 3 times that amount to have a really good borderline level 3 trip depending on your body chemistry and other factors.

So yeah, you didn't eat enough if you were looking for something more than a mild experience.  Even though cyans are more potent than cubes, you want to eat considerably more than that to have a memorable trip.


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: bishlap]
    #19067293 - 11/01/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I took pictures, but unfortunately I have no access to a computer right now. They're definitely cyanescens, that's not what I was wondering. Thanks though.


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: thirdeye728]
    #19067301 - 11/01/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you Melkor! I'll try to get those pics up in the other thread soon.


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: bishlap]
    #19067538 - 11/01/13 01:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Here are a couple photos...





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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: thirdeye728]
    #19068524 - 11/01/13 05:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP, this is interesting to me too, I'm finding cyans are only about two thirds the potency of lib-caps (consumed as a tea) yet I always read how cyans are supposed to be very potent.  Something else as well.. your pic's don't look quite right somehow, not exactly as wavy's should look, I cant put my finger on it but somethings wrong, I cant see the striations in the flesh at the edges of the top surfaces of the cap.  Needs trusted identifiers chiming in.


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: thirdeye728]
    #19068961 - 11/01/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I honestly think the giant mushrooms have more psilocybin in them per oz than the small ones. Like the one's you find in Mexico and Peru.


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: mindgnome]
    #19069025 - 11/01/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

dude those are 100% not cyans in my opinion.  And fantastic fungus I have read that the variety of cyanescens that grow in the uk i typically less potent than those that grow in the Pacific North West in North America


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: el_barto]
    #19069038 - 11/01/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Libert caps are more potent than cyans but not much... Potency varies ... About all you can say
Age, growing conditions, size, handling and drying, etc
I bet if you powdered your cyans you might find the tea more potent... Might try adding a dash or lemon or black tea or vinegar to your water too.

Cyans.... Color of cap is the result of moisture, age and sun exposure and later cold temperature.... Fresh wet caps will be brown and wet looking... As they dry, move towards cream color... Damaged by frost or drying can create blue or even blue green colors

Cyans are more potent than cubes, so as mentioned, 0.5 -0.8 gm is about level 1
Need a good 3-4 gm dry weight to feel them IMHO

Good job finding them!  Not rare but also not common

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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: HarryL]
    #19069044 - 11/01/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

HarryL said:
Libert caps are more potent than cyans but not much... Potency varies ... About all you can say
Age, growing conditions, size, handling and drying, etc
I bet if you powdered your cyans you might find the tea more potent... Might try adding a dash or lemon or black tea or vinegar to your water too.

Cyans.... Color of cap is the result of moisture, age and sun exposure and later cold temperature.... Fresh wet caps will be brown and wet looking... As they dry, move towards cream color... Damaged by frost or drying can create blue or even blue green colors

Cyans are more potent than cubes, so as mentioned, 0.5 -0.8 gm is about level 1
Need a good 3-4 gm dry weight to feel them IMHO

Good job finding them!  Not rare but also not common

Peace



did you look at his pic, those werent cyans IMO.  Also 3-4 dry grams to feel them?? thats crazy


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: el_barto]
    #19069203 - 11/01/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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did you look at his pic, those werent cyans IMO


Ditto this....send pics over to ID forum like bishlap said...if those were cyans, you would be on another plane...I do believe they are active though because of the bluing IDK.....maybe Stuntzi?


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: el_barto]
    #19069216 - 11/01/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Look like cyans to me.
Old ones - and may be a little loss of potency due to decay and other factors.
I find cyans are twice as strong as cubensis - visual wise.
Trip wise/head fuck wise, I find them about as potent as cubensis gram for gram.
Low doses of cyans are a little bit of a tease for me.
I ate 13 grams wet and got a level 2 trip.


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: MrHill]
    #19070131 - 11/01/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I dont think they are active either I would guess stropharia aeruginosa


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Re: Question about Cyans? [Re: el_barto]
    #19070320 - 11/01/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There is no way those are cyans... I do see blueing though, makes me wonder what they are...


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