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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: topdog82]
    #19074814 - 11/02/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The leader of a cult doesn't have a personal opinion, their opinion is as good as law for most followers. Buddhism's MO is based in fear mongering as much as christianity so I say fuck the DL and his opinion.


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: Konyap]
    #19074821 - 11/02/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Dali Llama is a eastern hoax, he can keep his crazy mind theories to himself no one is going to give a shit.




Some of his followers might care, but personally I don't feel sorry for people caught up in cults. They're fuel for the fire which has held back real progress for thousands of years


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: Konyap]
    #19074836 - 11/02/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Dali Llama is a eastern hoax, he can keep his crazy mind theories to himself no one is going to give a shit whether he approves or disapproves.

You'd have to have some damn good pussy to tell me pot gives you a crazy mind and for me to believe it.




Or I have a satisfying life and things to strive towards that eliminate the need for recreational marijuana.


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19074845 - 11/02/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
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Illyabo said:
Dali Llama is a eastern hoax, he can keep his crazy mind theories to himself no one is going to give a shit whether he approves or disapproves.

You'd have to have some damn good pussy to tell me pot gives you a crazy mind and for me to believe it.




Or I have a satisfying life and things to strive towards that eliminate the need for recreational marijuana.




Why do I have to eliminate things?

I'm an adult.


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19074853 - 11/02/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:

Or I have a satisfying life and things to strive towards that eliminate the need for recreational marijuana.




Since when was fun about need? Isn't the point of recreation - fun?


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19074856 - 11/02/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Illyabo said:
Dali Llama is a eastern hoax, he can keep his crazy mind theories to himself no one is going to give a shit.




Some of his followers might care, but personally I don't feel sorry for people caught up in cults. They're fuel for the fire which has held back real progress for thousands of years




Exactly if they were News Reporters, vocalist or yoga instructors it wouldn't matter


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19074876 - 11/02/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Or I have a satisfying life and things to strive towards that eliminate the need for recreational marijuana.




Since when was fun about need? Isn't the point of recreation - fun?




I should have said "want" not "need".
But ya you're right, it is just about fun.
But I've had enough fun with weed for now. 
I may continue smoking like once a year or something, idk.  I'm not thinking about it too much.  I just know I want to basically stop.
I want to save my money up and get a place of my own or for in case I have to go to the hospital or something... I'm getting my priorities straight.


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19074898 - 11/02/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Whatever works for you


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: Konyap]
    #19075046 - 11/02/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Illyabo said:
Dali Llama is a eastern hoax, he can keep his crazy mind theories to himself no one is going to give a shit whether he approves or disapproves.

You'd have to have some damn good pussy to tell me pot gives you a crazy mind and for me to believe it.



Weed gets you high. In his mind thats a type craziness. purely a subjective term

And he kept it to himself. People asked him and he answered what he thought based on his perception of the drug


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19075054 - 11/02/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
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Repertoire89 said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:

Or I have a satisfying life and things to strive towards that eliminate the need for recreational marijuana.




Since when was fun about need? Isn't the point of recreation - fun?




I should have said "want" not "need".
But ya you're right, it is just about fun.
But I've had enough fun with weed for now. 
I may continue smoking like once a year or something, idk.  I'm not thinking about it too much.  I just know I want to basically stop.
I want to save my money up and get a place of my own or for in case I have to go to the hospital or something... I'm getting my priorities straight.



lol take it from me. I vape about every other day. i will quit when I want

But to say that dalai llama is a judgemental dumbass...

The guy got his entire country fucked over by china and he is still having loving peace talks. That is strength. It isnt a cult, its called forgiveness and love


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: topdog82]
    #19075074 - 11/02/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well crazy over here and  crazy over there are probably two entirely different things


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: Konyap]
    #19075288 - 11/02/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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well crazy over here and  crazy over there are probably two entirely different things



precisely my point :tongue:


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: Talib]
    #19075516 - 11/02/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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People tend to get angry quickly when others disagree with them.
I view it as a sign of weakness.




I don't even smoke weed. I'm not offended.

But the Dalai Lama is being a bitch by judging people, saying it's not good and it gives you a "crazy mind."

I never expected much else though. He's never even been laid.

Wonder if he knows the oldest stash of marijuana in the world (2,700 years old) was found with a shaman near his stomping grounds? Probably not.

Link:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/12/11/ancient.cannabis/





I think it's funny you think the people who smoke pot all day and do nothing and eat unhealthy food and contribute negatively to society and humanity are looked down upon by the dali lama.

also, he's just pointing that out, he isn't neccesarily judging them in that way by saying that.  people always assume youre passing judgement on them when you point out their flaws or problems, when this is not always so


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #19075528 - 11/02/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Typerwritermonky said:
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Talib said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
People tend to get angry quickly when others disagree with them.
I view it as a sign of weakness.




I don't even smoke weed. I'm not offended.

But the Dalai Lama is being a bitch by judging people, saying it's not good and it gives you a "crazy mind."

I never expected much else though. He's never even been laid.

Wonder if he knows the oldest stash of marijuana in the world (2,700 years old) was found with a shaman near his stomping grounds? Probably not.

Link:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/12/11/ancient.cannabis/





I think it's funny you think the people who smoke pot all day and do nothing and eat unhealthy food and contribute negatively to society and humanity are looked down upon by the dali lama.

also, he's just pointing that out, he isn't neccesarily judging them in that way by saying that.  people always assume youre passing judgement on them when you point out their flaws or problems, when this is not always so





Yup.  Once again, it's a sign of a weak person.


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #19075653 - 11/02/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
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Typerwritermonky said:
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Talib said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
People tend to get angry quickly when others disagree with them.
I view it as a sign of weakness.




I don't even smoke weed. I'm not offended.

But the Dalai Lama is being a bitch by judging people, saying it's not good and it gives you a "crazy mind."

I never expected much else though. He's never even been laid.

Wonder if he knows the oldest stash of marijuana in the world (2,700 years old) was found with a shaman near his stomping grounds? Probably not.

Link:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/12/11/ancient.cannabis/





I think it's funny you think the people who smoke pot all day and do nothing and eat unhealthy food and contribute negatively to society and humanity are looked down upon by the dali lama.

also, he's just pointing that out, he isn't neccesarily judging them in that way by saying that.  people always assume youre passing judgement on them when you point out their flaws or problems, when this is not always so





Yup.  Once again, it's a sign of a weak person.



LOL. I dunno if it is a sign of a weak person. Thats quite a message to be drawn out. I think it is a sign of defensiveness


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: topdog82]
    #19075731 - 11/02/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

judge
verb \ˈjəj\

: to form an opinion about (something or someone) after careful thought

Merriam Websters English Dictionary.



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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: topdog82]
    #19075783 - 11/02/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but being defensive means that you feel you are being attacked.
They are interpreting the Dalai Lama as saying "smoking weed makes you crazy" as an attack.
It's not an attack, just his opinion.


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #19076925 - 11/02/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

For the record, I have a lot of respect for the Dalai Lama. His book "The Art of Happiness" was positively influential for me.

I've actually visited his residence in Dharamsala.

I even went to his birthday party in rural Ladakh, attended by hundreds of monks and local Tibetans.

Yes, the religion is one of peace. And the metaphysics and rich history of the teachings are quite beautiful (along with their art and rituals). But King Daddy Pimp Lama is just another dude, with cognitive biases and opinions tainted by dogmas and culture - akin to any other person.

The "mystique of enlightenment" is still very pervasive in many people who glamorize the Eastern religions. But when it comes to educated opinions about psychoactives, I'll side with a host of anthropologists, transpersonal psychologists, and various ethnographers who would never state that cannabis gives you a "crazy mind." In fact, over-whelming evidence shows that entheogens enrich one's spiritual life.

Study:

Lerner, Michael and Lyvers, Michael (2006) Values and Beliefs of Psychedelic Drug Users: A Cross-Cultural Study, The Journal of Psychoactive Drugs, Vol. 38, Iss. 2.

http://works.bepress.com/michael_lyvers/12/

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I think it's funny you think the people who smoke pot all day and do nothing and eat unhealthy food and contribute negatively to society and humanity are looked down upon by the dali lama.




I said nothing of the sort.

Neither did the Dalai Lama.

Who the hell other than you is talking about apathy from daily use, unhealthy food, and society?

Nice straw man though.


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Re: Dalai Lama Supports Medical Marijuana [Re: Talib]
    #19077159 - 11/02/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Talib said:
For the record, I have a lot of respect for the Dalai Lama. His book "The Art of Happiness" was positively influential for me.

I've actually visited his residence in Dharamsala.

I even went to his birthday party in rural Ladakh, attended by hundreds of monks and local Tibetans.

Yes, the religion is one of peace. And the metaphysics and rich history of the teachings are quite beautiful (along with their art and rituals). But King Daddy Pimp Lama is just another dude, with cognitive biases and opinions tainted by dogmas and culture - akin to any other person.

The "mystique of enlightenment" is still very pervasive in many people who glamorize the Eastern religions. But when it comes to educated opinions about psychoactives, I'll side with a host of anthropologists, transpersonal psychologists, and various ethnographers who would never state that cannabis gives you a "crazy mind." In fact, over-whelming evidence shows that entheogens enrich one's spiritual life.

Study:

Lerner, Michael and Lyvers, Michael (2006) Values and Beliefs of Psychedelic Drug Users: A Cross-Cultural Study, The Journal of Psychoactive Drugs, Vol. 38, Iss. 2.

http://works.bepress.com/michael_lyvers/12/

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I think it's funny you think the people who smoke pot all day and do nothing and eat unhealthy food and contribute negatively to society and humanity are looked down upon by the dali lama.




I said nothing of the sort.

Neither did the Dalai Lama.

Who the hell other than you is talking about apathy from daily use, unhealthy food, and society?

Nice straw man though.



Smoking weed day in and day out is definately not conducive to an active lifestyle. Many people can pull it off. But statistically speaking, smoking weed is causationally linked to less active lifestyles. As well as less neuroplasticity, and less memory

This article purely stated that the dalai lama said that was bad. Weed, coffee, alcohol, cigs, heroin. All are recreational drugs. And they r great at that purpose. We can all agree that heroin does not positvely impact lives. But weed can fuck up lives as much as heroin can. It is up to the induvidual and their personality. me smoking weed isnt GOOD for me. And I recognize that. But I justfiy it by the fact I dont drink, excercise, eat healthy, and lead an active lifestyle. And i NEVER put weed in front of work. That is my descision. I could smoke weed and pop xanax and vicodin before lecture like some kids do. And i personallythink thats pointless

LSD on the other end is much different. MUCH different. it provides long term value and like you said even enhances peoples' lives


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