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OgreLokon
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Is a Monotub my only option...
#19067749 - 11/01/13 02:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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...for an FC if a fan NEEDS to be on in the room at all times?
Edited by OgreLokon (11/01/13 02:14 AM)
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TrentBoyett
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: OgreLokon]
#19068432 - 11/01/13 04:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you can use a martha, also a pmp, but a lot of people don't like them.
why don't you want to use a monotub? They're simple & effective.
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Fusion
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19068452 - 11/01/13 04:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Read more , i know i sound like a dick but its probably the best advice you could get. good luck!
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Stromrider
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: Fusion] 1
#19068470 - 11/01/13 04:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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A monotub is a great option
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OgreLokon
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: Stromrider]
#19069390 - 11/01/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: why don't you want to use a monotub? They're simple & effective.
I never said I didn't want to use one: I just wanted to see other options. Alrighty then! Monotub it is. I'll take pics of my first attempt.
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: OgreLokon]
#19069822 - 11/01/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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id say it's not your only option but your best option
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Kizzle
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: OgreLokon]
#19069830 - 11/01/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just because a fan on in the room can screw up a SGFC doesn't necessarily mean it will. If you happen to already have one made you could try it in different locations in the room and monitor the effects.
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Stromrider
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: Kizzle]
#19069848 - 11/01/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: Just because a fan on in the room can screw up a SGFC doesn't necessarily mean it will. If you happen to already have one made you could try it in different locations in the room and monitor the effects.
I have had a sgfc in a rroom with a fan. I just put it on the other side the room
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: Kizzle]
#19069871 - 11/01/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MAD BAGS work pretty good. Look these Golden Teachers
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#19069968 - 11/01/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Monotubs are so simple and effective i don't know why you wouldn't want to use one, they produce well and can be made in a variety of sizes for example i just made two 8 quart tubs and have about 8 66 quart tubs... you can set and forget although i fan and mist mine when i wake up and go to bed.
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OgreLokon
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It's not that I'm scared of Monotubs, it's that my PC is tiny, and will only hold 3 pints of jars. However, since all I have is time on my hands, I can make it work. When I started my cultivation, it was with PF Tek and outdated info. The forums I found first were "the other" site, which is also outdated. Seriousy, if I told you guys what my FC is currently, you guys would be chasing me with torches and pitchforks, lol, but it's worked, and like I said, I HAVE to have fans (3) running in this room if I'm in it, so switching to a SGFC just wasn't gonna happen.
I'll just start on a small Monotub, and save up for a 22 QT PC.
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: OgreLokon]
#19070733 - 11/01/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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my bad those tubs are 8 cups so 2 quart very mini dub tubs i used about a 1/2 quart spawn each with about a quart or so sub. they are two tupperware containers one holding sub the other as a fruiting area/ lid with the hole i have pics in tbags grow along i'm thinking or better yet here is a pic
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blueconfusion
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these were my experiment with an extra jar i had laying around i wasn't going to use anymore cause i have made my clones and i have a master i like so yeah boredom and curiosity got me wondering what if...
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: OgreLokon]
#19071071 - 11/01/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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OgreLokon said: It's not that I'm scared of Monotubs, it's that my PC is tiny, and will only hold 3 pints of jars.
I hear ya on that tiny PC! I have a small one too. 4QT Mirro, still works good thou.
You didnt mention what style of grow you are doing (bulk, PF cakes, etc).
If youre doing cakes, you could make these mini-shotgun terriums that work pretty good.

It does like kinda silly, but they are cheap, easy to make and they do work. They just need a light source (which also acts as a heat source too). They are perfect for small grows.
It cost like a $1 for the bottles, bag of perlite is like $5, and the polyfill is another $5. Thats really all u need. Oh and a knife. All u can use the fresh water for the perlite when youre done.
Just an option. But if u did grains in your PC, which is what most people use in PC's (jars can be boiled instead of PC'd), then i would go with a mini-monotub, like a large tupperware container or something.
Good Luck - LC
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PussyFart
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LogicaL Chaos said: If youre doing cakes, you could make these mini-shotgun terriums that work pretty good.

It does like kinda silly, but they are cheap, easy to make and they do work. They just need a light source (which also acts as a heat source too). They are perfect for small grows.
That is not a SGFC style anything....
Just because it has perlite means nothing, you must have 1/4" holes every 2" on all 6 sides....not 6 polyfill stuffed holes.
Perlite in the bottom of a container with no holes is pointless....no air can pass up thru it...so the perlite cannot do it's job.
Not only that but the light being a heat source is not a good thing, you never want to heat the chamber, you want to heat the room.
Those mini SGFCs work fine, if built right and not confused with a monotub-type setup like pictured above.
The cake in that bottle looks sad and sick....no offense....and it is sitting directly on the perlite, which is another fail.
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: PussyFart]
#19071146 - 11/01/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah mine is mono style one with straw one with hpoo both cased with a 50/50 casing...
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Kizzle
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: OgreLokon]
#19078694 - 11/03/13 02:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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OgreLokon said: It's not that I'm scared of Monotubs, it's that my PC is tiny, and will only hold 3 pints of jars. However, since all I have is time on my hands, I can make it work. When I started my cultivation, it was with PF Tek and outdated info. The forums I found first were "the other" site, which is also outdated. Seriousy, if I told you guys what my FC is currently, you guys would be chasing me with torches and pitchforks, lol, but it's worked, and like I said, I HAVE to have fans (3) running in this room if I'm in it, so switching to a SGFC just wasn't gonna happen.
I'll just start on a small Monotub, and save up for a 22 QT PC.

If you have limited capacity and you have a pot and lid you can always do some PF cakes on the side since you'll probably be hanging around the stove anyway. I can't imagine only doing 3 pints at a time.
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: Kizzle]
#19078703 - 11/03/13 02:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kizzle said:
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OgreLokon said: It's not that I'm scared of Monotubs, it's that my PC is tiny, and will only hold 3 pints of jars. However, since all I have is time on my hands, I can make it work. When I started my cultivation, it was with PF Tek and outdated info. The forums I found first were "the other" site, which is also outdated. Seriousy, if I told you guys what my FC is currently, you guys would be chasing me with torches and pitchforks, lol, but it's worked, and like I said, I HAVE to have fans (3) running in this room if I'm in it, so switching to a SGFC just wasn't gonna happen.
I'll just start on a small Monotub, and save up for a 22 QT PC.

If you have limited capacity and you have a pot and lid you can always do some PF cakes on the side since you'll probably be hanging around the stove anyway. I can't imagine only doing 3 pints at a time.
I like the science part.
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: OgreLokon]
#19080846 - 11/03/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You know what I'm saying though right? I'm guessing there's a good chance you happen a big pot and lid at your disposal. If so there's no reason you couldn't use that as well to increase your capacity at least until you get a decent pressure cooker even if it is in the form BRF cakes. You can also do whole grains with steaming but they require a very long sterilization time, 8 hours is what RR recommends.
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Re: Is a Monotub my only option... [Re: Kizzle]
#19080867 - 11/03/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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and at 3 pints at a time your looking at a long day anyway
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