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    #19066024 - 10/31/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hi shroomery I inoculated 2 vermiculite and brf jars with south american spores 1 month ago and they are almost completely colonized. Two days ago I noticed one of my jars had 3 mushrooms starting to grow where the mycelium meets the dry vermiculite top layer. Should I birth the jars now or try to remove the mushrooms or what?

I just took these pictures.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19066077 - 10/31/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Leave them and proceed as normal even consolidating, try the proper jars next time


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: cronicr]
    #19066130 - 10/31/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: cronicr]
    #19066144 - 10/31/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I usually have the screw part to the lid on, I took it off without removing the top in order to get a better picture. Or is there a different jar entirely that your referring to?


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19066320 - 10/31/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The shorter wide mouth jars (non-tapered) are generally recommended.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19066550 - 10/31/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Should I skip dunking before birthing? Also I made wet vermiculite reservoirs in the center of the cakes, should I even bother dunking?


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: OgreLokon]
    #19066611 - 10/31/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The thing with those jars they have the same probs as pints, gravity draws moisture to the bottom and compacts your sub making it hard for your myc to eat, often it treats it the same as a contam and just pins once your dry layer starts falling down the sides , as a rule of thumb for pf jars they should be the same height as width , not to say those jars won't perform but sometimes is the small  details that make the diffrence in colonizing times. Gl and post results!
Just consolidate and dunk as normal , chances are those are ready to pluck off by then anyway, if there's lots of pi s and your worried about it try sit them in a saucer of water


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19066637 - 10/31/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Should I skip dunking before birthing?



We usually dunk after birthing.....and no, don't skip it.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: PussyFart]
    #19091141 - 11/05/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)


Do you think its time yet? The veil on the larger mushroom from the picture 4 days ago broke open today. The mycelium completely covered the cake 2 days ago.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19091158 - 11/05/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yep. Birth it now IMHO.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: Kagenical]
    #19091232 - 11/05/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Damn those bitches are going to break your jar!


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
    #19091267 - 11/05/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup: that is awesome, never had jars pin like that invitro..i would birth it and cut off any uncolonized substrate..


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19097072 - 11/06/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys I just birthed that cake after dunking it for 19 hours (rushed it because I have to leave the house soon and wont be home until tomorrow afternoon). I had made a reservoir in the center with only vermiculite when setting up my cakes so I think it got enough water anyways. I just dunked my second cake today because it didn't have impatient mushrooms. I plan on leaving the cake outside under an overhang on top of my window air-conditioner on the second floor where I feel it is safe. The temperature is not supposed to drop bellow 10C tonight and tomorrow. Is this a safe plan? will light tomorrow affect it? what is too cold? meteorologists and mother nature don't always see eye-to-eye after all.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19097086 - 11/06/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It'll survive that. You just don't want it to freeze.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: OgreLokon]
    #19100758 - 11/07/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I just birthed the second cake but before I rolled it in vermiculite I took a picture because I am a tad skeptical about the appearance of the mycelium. (the exposure is lower in the second picture which is why it looks a different color)


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19100776 - 11/07/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

looks fine:thumbup:


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19100849 - 11/07/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Umm, I haven't been doing this for years and years like some- but I've certainly birthed my share of brf cakes, and it looks fine to me. What exactly are you skeptical of?


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: re-Tardis]
    #19104136 - 11/08/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The yellow ridge in the bottom right of picture ones as well as the yellow areas above it. It also doesn't look stringy by the yellow ridge. In picture 2 there is what appears to be a ball of non-stringy white in the bottom right.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19136750 - 11/14/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)


I took this picture today of the first cake. The second cake has yet to pin but I'll be patient. my room temperature varies between 60-75F but is usually around the lower degrees, could this be why I haven't seen any pinning yet? I'm also dunking a B+ cake tonight, I read somewhere that B+ can grow fine in as far as low 50s. I am hoping that's true because my house is poorly insulated and where I live it's getting colder and colder every day :/


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19137500 - 11/14/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That cake looks great. You're doing a good job.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: freespeech]
    #19150049 - 11/17/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)


Here some of the mushies are ready for harvest. Can someone explain the purple coloring on one of the caps? also the other South American cake still has no pinning.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19150061 - 11/17/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the purple is your fruit ejecting spores


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19150091 - 11/17/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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the purple is your fruit ejecting spores



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also the other South American cake still has no pinning.




Try building your fruiting chamber correctly :shrug:
That fish tank you have them in is about as inefficient as it gets. 

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A SGFC has 1/4" holes spaces 2 inches apart in a grid patten on all six sides. 4-6 inches of moist perlite. No attachments made to it with any extra things like humidifiers. Optimally the SGFC should be in the middle of a room. No fans should be run in the room with the SGFC, but a cracked window is OK. A humidifier in your house can help to raise the ambient RH but don't put it near your SGFC put it in the other corner of the room if you do decide to run a humidifier at all. The SGFC IMO should have at least 6-12 inches of room from any wall on all 6 sides. This includes finding some sort of raisers to elevate the SGFC off of the surface it's on.





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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19150337 - 11/17/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)


Does the coloration on the right mushroom just above the mycelium look okay?


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19150361 - 11/17/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Does the coloration on the right mushroom just above the mycelium look okay?




Looks fine to me, but go wash under those fingernails.  :wowz:


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: Darph_Bobo]
    #19150386 - 11/17/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yea but wash your hands and those mushrooms need more FAE. make yourself a SGFC


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: Darph_Bobo]
    #19150390 - 11/17/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ha! I did that just after uploading the picture :s I rinsed my hands in rubbing alcohol before handling the mushrooms however.

Unfortunately I do not have an area to properly store a SGFC. I will be adding an Ultrasonic Cool Mist Humidifier on a timer to replace misting and aid in FAE.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19184079 - 11/24/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the second SA cake is now fruiting some nice looking mushrooms and the first cake has some pins on it, the B+ also has some pinning. I ate the first SA fruit weighing 5 grams and I was quiet pleased.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19184207 - 11/24/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Ha! I did that just after uploading the picture :s I rinsed my hands in rubbing alcohol before handling the mushrooms however.

Unfortunately I do not have an area to properly store a SGFC. I will be adding an Ultrasonic Cool Mist Humidifier on a timer to replace misting and aid in FAE.





If you have a place to set a tote, you have room for a SGFC.

A humidifier set up to a tote is overkill and not going to be ideal.

FAE and R/H are properly established in other ways.


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: krikkrew]
    #19209781 - 11/30/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)


Do these 2 cakes look okay and not contaminated to you guys? The first picture is of of a cake i just birthed before i rolled it in vermiculite. The second and third picture are of a cake that i birthed after its second dunk, is the white goopy stuff on it contam? any help would be much appreciated


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19210025 - 11/30/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Do these 2 cakes look okay and not contaminated to you guys? The first picture is of of a cake i just birthed before i rolled it in vermiculite. The second and third picture are of a cake that i birthed after its second dunk, is the white goopy stuff on it contam? any help would be much appreciated




Those look dangerous as hell haha. Can anyone identify the growths?


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: chowster]
    #19219386 - 12/02/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

bump for an answer?


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19219548 - 12/02/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The staining on the cap is caused by the pellicle, a separable gelatinous layer on the top of the cap. The purple to black spores adhere well to it, causing the discoloration. A pellicle is uncommon in cubensis but the b+ strain has one.

Slime isnt normal, you may need more fresh air exchange. How do they smell?


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: deadjesusrodeo]
    #19219591 - 12/02/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it smells fine, like mushrooms. I probably do need more FAE, none of the other cakes have the slime, thanks for your help


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: deadjesusrodeo]
    #19222251 - 12/03/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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bump for an answer?



the gel like stuff is normal after a dunk and is not a contam, be sure to rinse well after the dunk as bacteria build up is common during the dunk
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The staining on the cap is caused by the pellicle, a separable gelatinous layer on the top of the cap. The purple to black spores adhere well to it, causing the discoloration. A pellicle is uncommon in cubensis but the b+ strain has one.

Slime isnt normal, you may need more fresh air exchange. How do they smell?



just ignore this, no offense your just way off, cubes don't have a gelatinous pellicle


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Re: mushrooms growing in almost fully colonized jar [Re: phil ozwald]
    #19222475 - 12/03/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the update, so what is the coloration then?


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