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I can NOT trip with others
#19063759 - 10/31/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everytime I trip alone.....I have a great fucking time. Its all good vibes and I usually come out of it with something.
I tried tripping with a group of people...freaked out. Tried trippoin with one of my best duddies....freaked out.
I've never had any kind of freak out tripping alone.
What's the deal?
Note* I do have some intense axiety problems but never around people I'm comfortable with.
Also if I were to take a benzo when I'm ripping would it dimminsh the trip?
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Some people (me included) are super sensitive to the vibes/energy around them, I myself enjoy tripping alone better.
I feel like this is the best way to get the most out of the trip and really not have to worry about anything or anyone while tripping.
The anxiety probably also plays a role in it as well.
As far as taking a benzo while tripping, i'm not sure, never done that.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#19063796 - 10/31/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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For some reason I take tripping so seriously. Whenever I take something with another party I view it as recreational....maybe that's my problem
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The first few times that I tripped, I was kind of glad that I was around other people. However, after I became comfortable with tripping, I started solo-tripping. I definitely get anxiety around other people while on psychedelics. I suppose it's because I feel this need to be social which is difficult for me to do while tripping , plus I get paranoid that I'm acting weird or something , and that makes me even more uncomfortable. So yeah, I prefer solo-tripping. I've never had a bad experience when I was by myself.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: Space Elf]
#19063988 - 10/31/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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After I had control of my trips with great experience, I started tripping around other people, and even people who had never tripped before. I was in the trip-friendly community of Santa Cruz, CA, which is right over the hill from San Francisco. I cut my teeth tripping alone in the redwood forest, taking the 3.5 g dose and smoking pot all day.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: sunshine]
#19064210 - 10/31/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Outside is definitely great. Not walking or interacting, but observing. Or yoga/Pilate's is good when I feel restless.
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I don't like tripping wth inexperienced heads, solo is great, but the best thing for me is the right woman.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: Deemstar]
#19064412 - 10/31/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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in my humble opinion most people who use mushrooms with any regularity will come to the same conclusion.
I stopped telling people I trip on mushrooms anymore because then I have to awkwardly explain that their not cool enough to share space with me while I'm on mushrooms.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: Deemstar]
#19064442 - 10/31/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bishlap said: in my humble opinion most people who use mushrooms with any regularity will come to the same conclusion.
I stopped telling people I trip on mushrooms anymore because then I have to awkwardly explain that their not cool enough to share space with me while I'm on mushrooms.

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Deemstar said: I don't like tripping wth inexperienced heads, solo is great, but the best thing for me is the right woman.
Never occurred to me 
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Anyone on the benzo question?
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Deemstar said: but the best thing for me is the right woman.
Right there I didn't know trips like these existed until i found a woman who liked tripping and it's just a whole new ballgame.
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goldcaphunter said: For some reason I take tripping so seriously. Whenever I take something with another party I view it as recreational....maybe that's my problem 
You just gotta find people more like you to trip with. Tripping is a very personal thing and if you're going to do it with people you need people you can connect and reach out to. Or at least people who are on a similar path to your own. Thinks like ceremonial trips are wonderful for this, but obviously not everyone has access to that. But hopefully you can meet a few people your style some day and try it out. It's really great being able to experience the blurring of ego between multiple people
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I am in the same boat. People usually just trip me out with the stuff they say and it screws with my thought process. I can be around my bro and enjoy it because he knows whats going on but most people want to do crazy stuff and don't realize it is much easier to just sit down and maybe discuss stuff. It is too easy to read people in that state of mind and if they are doing it for a completely different reason than you are doing it, it will be awkward. A lot of people think it is fun and never discover how deeply into the mind you go. I've talked with many ex-acidheads who didn't get a thing out of acid because they didn't know it was a tool.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: mindgnome]
#19065569 - 10/31/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i hate tripping with other people too. I don't "freak out" but have a very unpleasant time.
I tell people straight up, yes I will take your drugs, but no i won't use them with you.
Im stopping the use of psychedelics, and all drugs for that matter, at this point. Not necessarily by choice (although everything in life IS A CHOICE), but because my life will become a lot worse if I don't. So i'm choosing to stop.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: mindgnome]
#19065583 - 10/31/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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EXACTLY! If I'm around my dad or sister when I'm tripping I feel like I can go so much deeper because they just understand what I'm thinking.
I hate when I'm tripping with someone and they're like let's go do this let's go do that. Maybe soandso wants to come over.
I just want to curl up and think man.
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Damn, guess i'm just lucky. Got the right friends for tripping i guess. I have only once ever had an issue and i think it was sort of a mutual fuck up
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goldcaphunter said: I just want to curl up and think man.
haha same. Also I like stoners and all but when a stoner comes around who has never tripped and I am tripping they usually try to mess with me or trip me out but I am like "you look like a primate right now" lol
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: mindgnome]
#19065653 - 10/31/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Still no one on the benzo question? Should I try asking in a different section?
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goldcaphunter said: Still no one on the benzo question? Should I try asking in a different section?
aye?
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I depends. You probably don't want to take a lot of it and it also depends on what you take too. I think xanax and klonopin will just mellow it out a bit but I don't think you want to take something like valium because that winds the trip down a lot from what I've read. Sometimes the discomfort is cool though because then you have a breakthrough into happiness.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: mindgnome]
#19065701 - 10/31/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alone I can handle the emotions....with others I panick and it would be awesome if I could pop a zanny and still trip but be calm.
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Same I don't like to either
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yeah but I wouldn't suggest overdoing it on the xanax if you take enough you won't remember the trip anyways haha
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: mindgnome]
#19065878 - 10/31/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh i forgot about the benzo question. I can't comment on long lasting psyches like mushrooms or LSD, but i took a mg xanax before a DMT trip and it significantly chilled my trip out without actually reducing any of the effects. Whether that applies to other psychedelics i do not know. But i say go for it, just take a small dose
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I can see why one would like to trip alone. But boundary dissolution around the right people and be completely life changing.
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TheGreenArrow said: I can see why one would like to trip alone. But boundary dissolution around the right people and be completely life changing.
Agreed. This to me is the real usefulness of psychedelics. Is how it shapes my perspective of the outside world. The inside world is nice a few times but i personally think i learn the most though my interactions with others rather than circle jerking my own personal perspectives. Then again we all come from different backgrounds and need different things. I have social anxiety, so it's very therapeutic for me to share those experiences with people
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fuck tripping around others...well atleast sober people...
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I prefer to trip alone on mushrooms usually unless I take a small dose. There are a few people that I'll take mushrooms with, but usually only in groups of 2 or 3 at the most.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: Deathcore]
#19066450 - 10/31/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd say in regards to myself as well, tripping alone isn't bad at all if all you got around you is those kinda people who always say things like "I'll get you back."
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: Deathcore]
#19066477 - 10/31/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree with the rest of yall, ive eaten mushies many times with friends and many tomes alone.. the best expiriences came from solo trips.. others just think its all about getting high and have no spiritual aspect to it.. the mushroom is something sacred.. not something to take to try and see stupid shit t isnt actually there.. my solo trips jave always been good, where as my group trips have always been very anxiety filled, and ive always had bad trips with un-enlightened peeps
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: SamhainJ]
#19066533 - 10/31/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushrooms= Fuck social situations, particularly on the come up. LSD= Social but occasionally I like to break from the crowd for introspection but not cause anxiety. Mescaline=???
Cannabis=HOLY FUCK GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE!!!
...seriously, that's my reaction.
I can handle social situations better on shrooms although I greatly dislike to while I'm coming up and peaking.
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I can never trip with anyone around, if someone comes around when I'm still tripping I will try to leave, or I will find some excuse to leave the situation so I don't have to deal with it. I will try to deny getting involved in the situation as if I was involved in the first place. I will try to say that I was with this other group that just left for Canada last week and wouldn't be back til Tuesday. I spoke to my brother about the groups transferring to New York by the New Year. The possibility associated with me getting introduced into a new group excited me. I couldn't suppress the desire to be introduced in a group so much greater than anything previously accounted for, as if this group was the most greatest thing ever created in the world for people to be safe tripping. It was a place where, for instance you might be a trifle inclined into the realization that the woman whom you had originally came to the occasion with had suddenly transformed into something other than who she was, as if she suddenly took on a role contrary to what she really is. As if trying to make the subtle distinction between being in one group compared to another.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: drkkenny]
#19066590 - 10/31/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sometimes my friends will try to persuade me into tripping with them more often, as if purposely inviting me so we can trip together. We wanted to start tripping last night but on account of my friend not attending the play later we left it. We were going to trip next Friday with these bikers that recently flew in from La, nothing too shady about a few of these guys popping in here and there, nothing out of the ordinary. I thought of the possibility of them arriving earlier than expected, as if they were purposely trying to make future advances more apparent to me. As if I could see that he was wishing to extend the possibility of being able to get there earlier than usual, and wishing for him to inform him how much he wanted him to come to the play. Though we recently rejected every invite to ever be sent to a play in which we despised. We didn't wish to go on account of the realization that there was a far greater one that surpassed it in all ways possible. As if certain invites retain such an inner amount of beauty in their being sent that we cannot ignore the temptation involved in accepting it.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: drkkenny]
#19066712 - 10/31/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I prefer solo trips but i have shad some great trips with friends. They always helped me get through tough parts in trips and made us all way better friends in the end afterwards.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: Fuckspice]
#19066884 - 10/31/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I believe certain people manifest a certain inner temptation to be regarded in a manner that suggests we are retaining a great sort of friendship we previously couldn't fathom. As if this friendship was somehow greater than any other one could ever perform, as if this was the one friend that meant so much more than anything else. You know when you have that one friend that just means so much to you? When you just cannot go on without first knowing if they were okay, so always asking them right before they abandon themselvess to the desire to form a bond with someone whom they hadn't known and were apart of a different group on account of Thursdays was Tennis and Louis came back at 5 that day. I mean to say that I was going back to Buffalo with my friend I met recently, I saw him walking to this shop that I never would dare suggest him going in, as if I knew this shop was something that would resist to having him ever enter inside it. You know the feeling you get when you discover you are on such great terms with someone, that you can feel that they are something which presents you with such wonder that you no longer can live without them. When that person seems to give you so much readily apparent joy from merely existing, that you seem to extract so much joy that you nearly say something that you never would say.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: drkkenny] 1
#19066929 - 10/31/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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everyone in this thread should trip together!..
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: bishlap]
#19067440 - 11/01/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I prefer noone in the house at all. No people. No problems. No distraction. Dogs can be present.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: thormaxim]
#19068450 - 11/01/13 04:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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if your tripping with someone and all they say is "I'm not even tripping"
But your tripping really hard....and you ate the same dose. Its so unnerving.
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if your tripping with someone and all they say is "I'm not even tripping"
But your tripping really hard....and you ate the same dose. Its so unnerving.
Haha yeah, it is, until you see their giant pupils and know they have no idea what's going on haha!
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When I trip alone I always have a good time I have time to notice the visuals more ....and its a deeper experience I think....but when I trip with others we have a great time laughing a lot....but there has been times I tripped with certain other people and I felt totally uncomfortable ......one of my best friends I cant even trip with because he is just too aggressive of a person.....The last thing I want to do while tripping is to get in a fight or have some type of confrontation
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: mudbutt]
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im the same in the aspect that i just prefer tripping alone because naturally im already a worry wart and constantly want the people around me to be in a great upbeat type vibe so when im tripping i care a little too much. but when you do find that right woman to trip with it is incredible. i drank some aya with my girlfriend for the first time last week. and for the last 8 months ive been studying it extensively and she kept saying, "i think your wasting your time, theyre just taking your money and sending you fake powder, i dont think you know what your doing, dont hurt yourself!" just a bunch of put downs well ive gotten my recipe just perfect now and she didnt believe me when i described my life changing experience to her so she wanted to judge for herself. so we drank it together on a saturday night and of course she puked but i tried to explain to her you puke on it because you are your most honest and vulnerable after a good puke. nothing matters when your puking. lol. but she was blown away and told me im a genius and everyone in the world needs to try this and then it got really deep and serious so i downed the hatch with some mescaline because i was sobering up but she was full blown gone. but when she came to we started talking and having really deep conversations and we are both recovering needle addicts and we just opened up and shared everything with one another but the one thing i still havent been able to shake is the feeling that if she were to ever leave me, I DO NOT WANT TO LIVE WITHOUT HER. so because of that trip i think extra hard on everything i need to do right to swing her the right way without it being considered a type of manipulation. we truly do bring out the best in one another and now that she sees what my obsession has been about, everything is great. i did drink a little too much last night and started a stupid fight for some dumb ass reason. hope shes over it today. but yeah i highly suggest tripping with that one special girl. oh and all night while we spoke all i could see in my mind was our thoughts dancing with one another becoming one. our souls finally meeting each other after hundreds of years of seperation almost as if we were together in a past life. but yeah, do it to it.
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if your tripping with someone and all they say is "I'm not even tripping"
But your tripping really hard....and you ate the same dose. Its so unnerving.
Lol sometimes when I'm tripping I become 100% convinced people are fucking with me. "haha why are you laughing so hard dude?" "you know exactly why I'm laughing!!!" "lol are you still peaking?" "wtf I see through your bullshit! I know you feel this too!"
It feels like they're some kind of puppet playing the role of denial.
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Totally feel you on that one man, I just love the freedom of being alone. Every time I trip with people they always want to constantly do something and my anxiety skyrockets. I start to think, "Fuck, why did I invite them!" I like to chill, relax, smoke a couple blunts and do my own thing. Tripping alone is just tops, very enlightening.
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goldcaphunter said: For some reason I take tripping so seriously. Whenever I take something with another party I view it as recreational....maybe that's my problem 
In my experience it is a problem if the views of the people taking the substance differ. I can not trip with people that view it as recreational. If they share my view on the substance, I can.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: GoldenEye]
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I quit smoking about two months ago because I really couldn't handle people, at all while high, and even days after smoking, so I gave that shit up and I feel 100 percent better. But while tripping, I have the best fucking times with friends, and people, and just really connect. I've had a few awkward moments, mostly cause by other people, but usually push right over those awkward vibes with laughter and happiness and everyone follows. I have had one time coming down from LSD where me, my best friend, and my other "good" friend were there, and it got kind of awkward for us, and then my best friend started having a bad trip, with made things even worse. But that was the most I've ever taken too.
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goldcaphunter said: Everytime I trip alone.....I have a great fucking time. Its all good vibes and I usually come out of it with something.
I tried tripping with a group of people...freaked out. Tried trippoin with one of my best duddies....freaked out.
I've never had any kind of freak out tripping alone.
What's the deal?
Note* I do have some intense axiety problems but never around people I'm comfortable with.
Also if I were to take a benzo when I'm ripping would it dimminsh the trip?
Since you have anxiety problems a benzo would help if you are freaking out. But if you have a better time alone then keep doing that. I get nervous around people but that is because I am cynical lol I have had bad experiences with people treating me like shit when I trip hard and they think I am just being crazy, like I should be able to control myself when I clearly cannot. If you are in a relationship with someone who you are very close to that would make the experience amazing. I would say keep tripping alone. There may be a subconscious reason as to why you freak out when with other people. Some people are just more sensitive to others vibrations and that may be the case with you.
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I feel like this is what's going on here.
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The benzo would probably help if you regularly take it and have somewhat of a tolerance to that medication. It diminishes the trip slightly for me but its not like it takes it completely away. Then again, I don't take benzos a lot so a small dose probably has a different outcome then it would for you.
I typically save benzos for the end of a trip. Like if I know I have someplace to be the next day and can't let the trip extend as long as it wants to. Most of the time even after visuals, etc are gone my thoughts are still racing and I can't chill out long enough to sleep. In regards to the other people thing it just seems anxiety related. Even if you trust them you still don't want to act like a fool probably so you start stressing. I know that when I am around other people I feel like they aren't having a good time like I am so I feel stupid for some reason. If they are tripping too makes a big difference. Me and gf with gf not tripping makes me somewhat anxious. Together tripping and our thoughts are on the same level so I don't care as much.
Plus the fact that you have already established that you have these feelings around others means you will likely think about that every time you are tripping with them. So the cycle just starts again...
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Its quite the cycle but I think I may just stick with tripping alone
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Yeah tripping alone is pretty nice. You can just let your thoughts go where you want. Some of my best moments were sitting in my backyard all alone just feeling the sun and taking everything in. Im kind of a introvert anyway so I much prefer being at my house and not in an unknown situation or place.
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from personal experience benzos both mellow out and dampen the trip
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SgtPepperNo9 said: Yeah tripping alone is pretty nice. You can just let your thoughts go where you want. Some of my best moments were sitting in my backyard all alone just feeling the sun and taking everything in. Im kind of a introvert anyway so I much prefer being at my house and not in an unknown situation or place.

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Do they dampen it to much or is it just noticeable?
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I notice if I have a lot of visuals going they start to decrease. BUT...I think this partially happens because I get all numbed out because of the xanax and am just not focusing on that part of the trip anymore. Plus I start to get sleepy. I can still get them back by focusing and letting my eyes stare into space.
If you are used to the effects of benzos and a taking a certain dose makes you feel "normal" as opposed to lethargic and tired then you are probably okay. I would try it once and see. The worse that could happen is the trip isn't as intense as you want but then atleast you will know for next time. Benzos are a drug that I think cause different reactions in diff people so it is hard to say.
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Yeah,that's probably a good idea. Thanks for the input man
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No problem dude. I'm new around here but have tried a lot of stuff and had these same questions at one point.
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Well welcome, enjoy the place. I sure do
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In my (very limited) experience I've preferred tripping alone. The few times I've shroomed not alone was with my best friend for as long as I can remember, and I was constantly tryin to interpret different things about our conversation that don't need interpreting, similarly to how I am on marijuana. However when I tripped alone (albeit on almost 2x the dose) I was able to really get into the trip, and get things out of it.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: MitchyDee]
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I am used to the effects of benzos and when I have taken 1.5mg of clonazepam during a trip the visual activity went down very quickly. The visual part of the trip should have laster a total of 5 hours however it laster 2 and light activity for the last half hour. Mentally all throughout that your in a benzod out tripping headspace but dont think of as intelligent mind expanding things. (Currently on lorazepam)
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Ive tripped with my uncle who is a heroin addict and has tremendous insecurity in himself. It always ends with him asking me "did we do to many?" Or "am i gonna be ok?"...and finally its him crying over an ex junkie gf and how she "hurt him" so much and...I May be an insensitive asshole but i dont want to deal with talking to someone the whole trip. I want to trip.
I want to shut the fuck up and trip. Not pat someone on the back and tell them everything is ok.
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Sounds like your not comfortable with yourself. Built walls and afraid to let people see you vulnerable.
Nothing wrong with that, but can be worked on if you wish.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: cez]
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cez said: Sounds like your not comfortable with yourself. Built walls and afraid to let people see you vulnerable.
Nothing wrong with that, but can be worked on if you wish.
How would you work this out???
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: thormaxim]
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thormaxim said: Ive tripped with my uncle who is a heroin addict and has tremendous insecurity in himself. It always ends with him asking me "did we do to many?" Or "am i gonna be ok?"...and finally its him crying over an ex junkie gf and how she "hurt him" so much and...I May be an insensitive asshole but i dont want to deal with talking to someone the whole trip. I want to trip.
I want to shut the fuck up and trip. Not pat someone on the back and tell them everything is ok.
Fucking this...the last 3 times I've tripped its been this and it's been teh lame. My personal fav is when people that have children trip and then they feel guilty for it even when the kids are at grandparents anyway and shit. Oh well just have to plan better next time.
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I'm actually going to lemon tek 3.5 grams tonight. Alone of course, watch the fire, take a shower, walk the dog, read just chill. Sounds good,eh?
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thormaxim said: Ive tripped with my uncle who is a heroin addict and has tremendous insecurity in himself. It always ends with him asking me "did we do to many?" Or "am i gonna be ok?"...and finally its him crying over an ex junkie gf and how she "hurt him" so much and...I May be an insensitive asshole but i dont want to deal with talking to someone the whole trip. I want to trip.
I want to shut the fuck up and trip. Not pat someone on the back and tell them everything is ok.
Fucking this...the last 3 times I've tripped its been this and it's been teh lame. My personal fav is when people that have children trip and then they feel guilty for it even when the kids are at grandparents anyway and shit. Oh well just have to plan better next time.
Yeah like birth control
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I think it really depends on having the right person (preferably not people) to do it with. Not only do you have to trust them fully, but they also need to have a similar approach to the experience. View it as a single experience undergone by multiple individuals. If you go in with different intentions then of course there will be tension.
As an extension of ego dissolution, I think when people take psychedelics together there's a natural tendency for their experiences to blend and form a shared head-space. If you're really on the same page, that's when the uncanny connections occur. The conditions need to be right though. I have very close friends where I'd still be hesitant to trip with them because they're not looking for what I'm looking for. Tripping solo really changed my perspective on tripping. It's such a personal tool now, and I usually feel like having others detracts from its potential to be that.
That said, sometimes the right friend can open up parts of you that you can't do alone. If you and your friend really are both going into it for the same reasons (consciousness exploration, introspection, etc.) and there is still a problem then that's probably something you should talk about. In the end, what's the point of experiencing the beauty of the world if you can't share it?
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: m00ncalf]
#19087087 - 11/04/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I also feel that when dosing low, sharing the experience makes it more meaningful.
When dosing high, solitude makes the experience more meaningful.
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cez said: Sounds like your not comfortable with yourself. Built walls and afraid to let people see you vulnerable.
Nothing wrong with that, but can be worked on if you wish.
How would you work this out???
Meditation.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: cez]
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McKenna says that tripping with others can get so biazare(cuz tripping in general is bizarre) that it wouldn't surprise him that due to all the 'novelty buildup' that a piano would fall on his head or something just ridiculous. When you take these wacky drugs out into public theres just no telling in what could happen.
Im the same way, the only times I really tripped with others is the first few times I tripped. If im alone, I can just let all the information just soak into me thus allowing me to reach as deep as possible. Tripping with others always turns into an experience about them...I always find myself worrying about them or something. When im by myself..its just me and "it"
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I think there's a yin/yang thing with tripping period. I've tripped a lot by myself and others, and through all my solo trips, I feel able to trip with others as a guide more-so to speak.
If they can handle the PE cool we will have a great trip. If they wig out or need to talk about whatever they have going on, that's cool too.
The PE has shown me although we like to believe our lives are about us, they really aren't.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: cez]
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I have never tripped alone. Always with one or two good friends, and we always had a great time. This Friday will be my first solo flight. I can't wait!
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: Cubedude]
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Solo trips are wonderful.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: cez]
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I've only done mushrooms alone. I'm keen to try with others, but I'm concerned they will cheapen it somehow. Not treating it with any reverence or not allow themselves to surrender to the experience... might kill the magic for me.
Still gonna try it though. No way I can do it alone in the winter and darkness of northern Scandinavia. Where would I do it? In my tiny flat... Alone.. within 4 walls, for hours and hours. It sounds like a bad idea 
So I will give it a shot, with the best possible outlook!
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: tlien]
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Didn't read through the whole thread, but this reminds me a lot of myself. I have a very hard time tripping with other people now, even people I used to trip all the time with. It's because I had a bad trip with a close friend once, and thought he was trying to kill me. It was on a DOC trip, so this delusion lasted almost 30 hours... I was mentally unstable for about a week. This was about a year ago, and I've tripped only 3 times since then. Each time was with my best friend (not the one who was trying to kill me) and they were VERY difficult trips.
However, my solo trips have always been complete bliss. I think it's my paranoia and lack of trust that prevents me from letting go, like I used to be able to.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: eMpire420]
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ive been trippin since i was 13. i used to trip with friends all the time and quite often throughout my teens. as i got into my 20s, it didnt take long before i really had a distaste for tripping with others.
i started finding people to be energy vampires of sorts. kinda neurotic, obnoxious, sociopaths.
might just be my take on things, but i was just all set on coercing with the likes of most people while under the influence of psychs. even people i didnt otherwise think such things of, i just started to get alot more out of the trip on my own. it started out when tripping with friends i would often find myself going for a walk. alot of times just wanting to get lost and think to myself with no distractions, other times to throw on some tunes and get lost in the music.
i used to do alot of traveling on the road. between just hitting up random places, and going to festivals and shows. believe me, ive had my share of tripping around many people, as well as by my self. alot of times at festies, if i had the chance, id usualy come up in my tent, or off to a more quiet spot with my girl or something. once i get over the hump though id be all about raging.
there have been times ive dosed outside of shows in a city or what have you where there are no tents or anywhere to hide, and things get pretty intense for me there, but usualy im around like minded heads, so I can usually ride it out pretty decent. there have been some moments though where i was just hanging on. lol.
but almost always, when im around a homefront, wether it be where i currently reside, or places ive lived around the country, i would usualy go off by myself for the comeup at least, if not for the whole trip entirely.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: DeadPhan]
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Good point. On the come up I defenitely need time for myself. When I find my vibe I'm usually fine in social situations.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: eMpire420]
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I can relate with this post a lot. Its strange though because Quote:
eMpire420 said: Didn't read through the whole thread, but this reminds me a lot of myself. I have a very hard time tripping with other people now, even people I used to trip all the time with. It's because I had a bad trip with a close friend once, and thought he was trying to kill me. It was on a DOC trip, so this delusion lasted almost 30 hours... I was mentally unstable for about a week. This was about a year ago, and I've tripped only 3 times since then. Each time was with my best friend (not the one who was trying to kill me) and they were VERY difficult trips.
However, my solo trips have always been complete bliss. I think it's my paranoia and lack of trust that prevents me from letting go, like I used to be able to.
I feel like I can relate to this but not near as traumatic as your situation sounds which I hate for you but anyways I use to love tripping with others to mostly on lsd and I would always have a reat time but then after I had dosed 2 hits one day I was riding around with a buddy of mine and started to freak out and told him to take me home but once I got there I realized my mom was home and then I told him to keep on going but he forced me to get out... It dosent sound bad at all but amplified by the lsd and I had a lasting effect that still haunts me when I trip with other people, just that feeling of isolation and like everybody is thinking negatively about you or even talking about you while your in the other room is just unbearable for me on lsd. On the other hand tho I find comfort in being on shrooms with a cool ass chick... Idk it's strange but yeah anyways long story shot I cant trip with others well without having negative thought patterns and thus ruining the trip.
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: G_rambo]
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Jesus guys. Fear is the Mindkiller. Its not really the person your tripping withs' fault that your fear of rejection get projected outward. But I suppose I should follow that advise myself
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: thormaxim]
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thormaxim said: I prefer noone in the house at all. No people. No problems. No distraction. Dogs can be present.
This shit had me cracking up because I'm exactly the same. Everyone can fuck off, except my dogs 
I'm definitely a firm believer in the solo tripping. I prefer to have as few external influences as possible. I don't want someone coming into the room and telling me how fucked up their day was, and then send me into a bad trip. I won't even fuck with my phone. That little bastard goes onto Airplane Mode so I can't receive any buzzkilling text messages or phone calls. I won't check my email, Facebook, none of that bullshit....and I most CERTAINLY will not go anywhere near a goddamn TV...
My ideal trip is consists of laying in my bed, snuggled up with my pitbulls, listening to some killer tunes....OR out in nature with a comfy "home base" (hammock, tent, whatever).
If I DO decide to trip with people, I prefer that we are camping, and I must always have my own little space to retreat to, if necessary. Sometimes (a lot of times), I just like to lay down and enjoy the trip in a relaxed position. Mushrooms make me very lazy, most of the time.
Someone mentioned earlier that they feel obligated to be social, which I totally relate to. Being social is usually the very last thing I feel like doing on psychedelics.
If I've got the right homies that I've known for years and done a lot of tripping with, it can definitely be cool. I just think tripping by yourself is the most productive way to do it. I don't tend to come out of "social trips" with any gained insight.
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