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Offlinegoldcaphunter
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19085930 - 11/04/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm actually going to lemon tek 3.5 grams tonight. Alone of course, watch the fire, take a shower, walk the dog, read just chill. Sounds good,eh?


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19086873 - 11/04/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Ive tripped with my uncle who is a heroin addict and has tremendous insecurity in himself. It always ends with him asking me "did we do to many?" Or "am i gonna be ok?"...and finally its him crying over an ex junkie gf and how she "hurt him" so much and...I May be an insensitive asshole but i dont want to deal with talking to someone the whole trip. I want to trip.

I want to shut the fuck up and trip. Not pat someone on the back and tell them everything is ok.



Fucking this...the last 3 times I've tripped its been this and it's been teh lame.  My personal fav is when people that have children trip and then they feel guilty for it even when the kids are at grandparents anyway and shit.  Oh well just have to plan better next time.



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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #19087074 - 11/04/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think it really depends on having the right person (preferably not people) to do it with. Not only do you have to trust them fully, but they also need to have a similar approach to the experience. View it as a single experience undergone by multiple individuals. If you go in with different intentions then of course there will be tension.

As an extension of ego dissolution, I think when people take psychedelics together there's a natural tendency for their experiences to blend and form a shared head-space. If you're really on the same page, that's when the uncanny connections occur. The conditions need to be right though. I have very close friends where I'd still be hesitant to trip with them because they're not looking for what I'm looking for. Tripping solo really changed my perspective on tripping. It's such a personal tool now, and I usually feel like having others detracts from its potential to be that.

That said, sometimes the right friend can open up parts of you that you can't do alone. If you and your friend really are both going into it for the same reasons (consciousness exploration, introspection, etc.) and there is still a problem then that's probably something you should talk about. In the end, what's the point of experiencing the beauty of the world if you can't share it?


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: m00ncalf]
    #19087087 - 11/04/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I also feel that when dosing low, sharing the experience makes it more meaningful.

When dosing high, solitude makes the experience more meaningful.


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: meganthratalica]
    #19089028 - 11/05/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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cez said:
Sounds like your not comfortable with yourself.
Built walls and afraid to let people see you vulnerable.

Nothing wrong with that, but can be worked on if you wish.




How would you work this out???




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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: cez]
    #19089056 - 11/05/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

McKenna says that tripping with others can get so biazare(cuz tripping in general is bizarre) that it wouldn't surprise him that due to all the 'novelty buildup' that a piano would fall on his head or something just ridiculous. When you take these wacky drugs out into public theres just no telling in what could happen.

Im the same way, the only times I really tripped with others is the first few times I tripped. If im alone, I can just let all the information just soak into me thus allowing me to reach as deep as possible. Tripping with others always turns into an experience about them...I always find myself worrying about them or something. When im by myself..its just me and "it"


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #19089758 - 11/05/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think there's a yin/yang thing with tripping period.
I've tripped a lot by myself and others, and through all my solo trips, I feel able to trip with others as a guide more-so to speak.

If they can handle the PE cool we will have a great trip.
If they wig out or need to talk about whatever they have going on, that's cool too.

The PE has shown me although we like to believe our lives are about us, they really aren't.:hippie:


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: cez]
    #19089779 - 11/05/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have never tripped alone. Always with one or two good friends, and we always had a great time. This Friday will be my first solo flight. I can't wait!


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: Cubedude]
    #19090546 - 11/05/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Solo trips are wonderful.

Happy travels :mushroom2:


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: cez]
    #19090682 - 11/05/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've only done mushrooms alone. I'm keen to try with others, but I'm concerned they will cheapen it somehow. Not treating it with any reverence or not allow themselves to surrender to the experience... might kill the magic for me.

Still gonna try it though. No way I can do it alone in the winter and darkness of northern Scandinavia. Where would I do it? In my tiny flat... Alone.. within 4 walls, for hours and hours. It sounds like a bad idea :laugh:

So I will give it a shot, with the best possible outlook!


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: tlien]
    #19090696 - 11/05/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Didn't read through the whole thread, but this reminds me a lot of myself. I have a very hard time tripping with other people now, even people I used to trip all the time with. It's because I had a bad trip with a close friend once, and thought he was trying to kill me. It was on a DOC trip, so this delusion lasted almost 30 hours... I was mentally unstable for about a week. This was about a year ago, and I've tripped only 3 times since then. Each time was with my best friend (not the one who was trying to kill me) and they were VERY difficult trips.

However, my solo trips have always been complete bliss. I think it's my paranoia and lack of trust that prevents me from letting go, like I used to be able to.


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: eMpire420]
    #19091872 - 11/05/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ive been trippin since i was 13.  i used to trip with friends all the time and quite often throughout my teens.  as i got into my 20s, it didnt take long before i really had a distaste for tripping with others. 

i started finding people to be energy vampires of sorts.  kinda neurotic, obnoxious, sociopaths. 

might just be my take on things, but i was just all set on coercing with the likes of most people while under the influence of psychs.  even people i didnt otherwise think such things of, i just started to get alot more out of the trip on my own.  it started out when tripping with friends i would often find myself going for a walk.  alot of times just wanting to get lost and think to myself with no distractions, other times to throw on some tunes and get lost in the music. 

i used to do alot of traveling on the road.  between just hitting up random places, and going to festivals and shows.  believe me, ive had my share of tripping around many people, as well as by my self.  alot of times at festies, if i had the chance, id usualy come up in my tent, or off to a more quiet spot with my girl or something.  once i get over the hump though id be all about raging. 

there have been times ive dosed outside of shows in a city or what have you where there are no tents or anywhere to hide, and things get pretty intense for me there, but usualy im around like minded heads, so I can usually ride it out pretty decent.  there have been some moments though where i was just hanging on.  lol. 

but almost always, when im around a homefront, wether it be where i currently reside, or places ive lived around the country, i would usualy go off by myself for the comeup at least, if not for the whole trip entirely.


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19091893 - 11/05/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Good point. On the come up I defenitely need time for myself. When I find my vibe I'm usually fine in social situations.


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: eMpire420]
    #19092916 - 11/05/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can relate with this post a lot. Its strange though because
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eMpire420 said:
Didn't read through the whole thread, but this reminds me a lot of myself. I have a very hard time tripping with other people now, even people I used to trip all the time with. It's because I had a bad trip with a close friend once, and thought he was trying to kill me. It was on a DOC trip, so this delusion lasted almost 30 hours... I was mentally unstable for about a week. This was about a year ago, and I've tripped only 3 times since then. Each time was with my best friend (not the one who was trying to kill me) and they were VERY difficult trips.

However, my solo trips have always been complete bliss. I think it's my paranoia and lack of trust that prevents me from letting go, like I used to be able to.





I feel like I can relate to this but not near as traumatic as your situation sounds which I hate for you but anyways I use to love tripping with others to mostly on lsd and I would always have a reat time but then after I had dosed 2 hits one day I was riding around with a buddy of mine and started to freak out and told him to take me home but once I got there I realized my mom was home and then I told him to keep on going but he forced me to get out... It dosent sound bad at all but amplified by the lsd and I had a lasting effect that still haunts me when I trip with other people, just that feeling of isolation and like everybody is thinking negatively about you or even talking about you while your in the other room is just unbearable for me on lsd. On the other hand tho I find comfort in being on shrooms with a cool ass chick... Idk it's strange but yeah anyways long story shot I cant trip with others well without having negative thought patterns and thus ruining the trip.


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: G_rambo]
    #19093002 - 11/05/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Jesus guys. Fear is the Mindkiller. 
Its not really the person your tripping withs' fault that your fear of rejection get projected outward.  But I suppose I should follow that advise myself :smug:


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Re: I can NOT trip with others [Re: thormaxim]
    #19097730 - 11/06/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I prefer noone in the house at all. No people. No problems. No distraction. Dogs can be present.



This shit had me cracking up because I'm exactly the same. Everyone can fuck off, except my dogs :tongue:

I'm definitely a firm believer in the solo tripping. I prefer to have as few external influences as possible. I don't want someone coming into the room and telling me how fucked up their day was, and then send me into a bad trip. I won't even fuck with my phone. That little bastard goes onto Airplane Mode so I can't receive any buzzkilling text messages or phone calls. I won't check my email, Facebook, none of that bullshit....and I most CERTAINLY will not go anywhere near a goddamn TV...

My ideal trip is consists of laying in my bed, snuggled up with my pitbulls, listening to some killer tunes....OR out in nature with a comfy "home base" (hammock, tent, whatever).

If I DO decide to trip with people, I prefer that we are camping, and I must always have my own little space to retreat to, if necessary. Sometimes (a lot of times), I just like to lay down and enjoy the trip in a relaxed position. Mushrooms make me very lazy, most of the time.

Someone mentioned earlier that they feel obligated to be social, which I totally relate to. Being social is usually the very last thing I feel like doing on psychedelics.

If I've got the right homies that I've known for years and done a lot of tripping with, it can definitely be cool. I just think tripping by yourself is the most productive way to do it. I don't tend to come out of "social trips" with any gained insight.


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