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bodhisatta 
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19076816 - 11/02/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SamhainJ said: Bags are easier than jars in the aspect that you can buy them presterilized. Also as far as having to case grain bags, you can buy grain grow bags moxed with vermiculite etc and fruit right in the bag.. amd as far as "the whole oz thing" thats the minimum ive pulled total off of a self sufficent grain "enviro-bag".. if you were around a decade ago or even a few years ago you would know all about mycobag/mycofactory and before you go off on people about using bags and not making cakes just consider it helps get alot of people into the hobby.. i started with pf tek jars 11 years ago and the yeild was bull shit.. like a dry eighth total per half pint cake.. if i jad to choose id rather go with bags where my average first flush dry weight was 14-20 grams..
1) PRE-Sterilized sucks. Do yourself a favor and do it yourself. 2) the bags you described are in-vitro bags and those blow too. 3) I started out with grow bags because I was a noob(don't believe me look for my first few posts) I learned and moved away from that garbage. 4) I'm glad you got a measly ounce of a grow bag Doesn't mean I want to see ever new cultivator go down the same shit road you did.
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Nakor420
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19076821 - 11/02/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Agar, grain spawn, bulk sub and monotub IS the easy way,lol. seriously...it's easier than pf tek haha...heck... skip the agar and just multi-spore inoculate your grains..... grain spawn to bulk is the easiest method by far. and you get WAY more fruit.
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SamhainJ
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: Nakor420]
#19076848 - 11/02/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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He was interested in the bags, and they are good for beginners.. if you fail too many times making brf jars you are gonna give up its nice to have new people join the hobby.. not everyone starts off with bulk you fucking derelict.. its assholes like you who turn people off from this shit..
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SamhainJ
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19076886 - 11/02/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pf cakes dont give shit unless spawned to bulk or cased, a grain bag can be fruited in a sgfc as a large cake but puts out a shit ton more mushies than a brf jar cake.. and ive gotten more than a dry oz off of em when i used em.. ive gotten several oz per bag on average.. i just think someone new that the hobby could pull an oz easy
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19076889 - 11/02/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sam...I think calling someone a derelict and an asshole for no good reason makes YOU the type of person who turns people off from this sight.
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SamhainJ
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19076901 - 11/02/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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And why would a newb need to grow pounds of try shrooms hos forst tome unlless your dealing them? Most people starting off here just want to eat some shrooms, not supply a metropolis with them, i notced in your ratings this isnt the first time you have given shitty advice to newcomers..
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SamhainJ
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19076915 - 11/02/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think giving shitty advce and being arrogant turns em off more.. im notbthe most advanced cultivator here, ive taken a 6 year absence from the hobby, but jerks posting shit like you are a dime a dozen here, your nothing special.. i dont grow bulk but i dont give bad advice.. notice how i have under 500 posts in almost a decade, i dont post usually unless i feel im helping somebody.. the op isnt gonna take anything useful away from anything you said..
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SamhainJ
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19076931 - 11/02/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nakor i wasnt refering to you in case you mistook me..
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mushcrab
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19076967 - 11/02/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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.lol besides as far as im aware u can open a bag and do a caseing if desired right ?
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SamhainJ
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: mushcrab]
#19076980 - 11/02/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes you can, or you can simply fruit it as a cake if desired and get pretty decent flushes for a beginner.. just make sure you dont buy spawn bags if you plan to grow in the bag and then move to a sgfc, you will either want a grains/verm mixed bag or brown ric flour/verm bag. If you plan on just casing, spawn bags will (probably) contain more to work with, and are made specifically for casing or spawning to bulk
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mushcrab
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19076993 - 11/02/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SamhainJ said: Yes you can, or you can simply fruit it as a cake if desired and get pretty decent flushes for a beginner.. just make sure you dont buy spawn bags if you plan to grow in the bag and then move to a sgfc, you will either want a grains/verm mixed bag or brown ric flour/verm bag. If you plan on just casing, spawn bags will (probably) contain more to work with, and are made specifically for casing or spawning to bulk
oh ok so spawn for casing the all in one bags are for the intro then eh?
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SamhainJ
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: mushcrab]
#19077005 - 11/02/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can case the grow bags as well, but.if your jist gonna case it might as well buy an all grain/rye/substrat of yoyr choice bag.. you can use the vermiculate/brf or verm/grain bags to case and grow right in the bag, but sawn bags arent for invitro..
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SamhainJ
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19077045 - 11/02/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Check out out-grow for mad cheap, quality, spawn and enviro-bags, i highly recomend them, products are dirt cheap, fast as fuck shipping, and have had ZERO contam probs with em.. just keep in mind there oroducts are for growing edible, legal to grow mushrooms ONLY
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mushcrab
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19077067 - 11/02/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SamhainJ said: Check out out-grow for mad cheap, quality, spawn and enviro-bags, i highly recomend them, products are dirt cheap, fast as fuck shipping, and have had ZERO contam probs with em.. just keep in mind there oroducts are for growing edible, legal to grow mushrooms ONLY 
well of course who would grow cubes that would b naughty
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SamhainJ
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: mushcrab]
#19077107 - 11/02/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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And illegal, and hurt this awesome sponsor!
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mushcrab
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
#19080135 - 11/03/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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any one know a rough average yield on bags or is it a rly big crap shoot
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SamhainJ
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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: mushcrab]
#19111909 - 11/09/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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With grain/verm bags i got a minimum of a dry oz.. usually close to 2 oz total per bag
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