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Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle * 4
    #19062035 - 10/31/13 07:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So, what happened?  He got up, made a lot of noise about delaying Obamacare and got the Democrats to commit hard to keeping Obamacare going.  the Democrats committed, Obama committed, and at the last minute Cruz said OK, you win--and he dropped his opposition.

Obama wanted the govenment shutdown so he could blame Cruz and Republicans for Obamacare's failed implementation AND get it delayed because the D's knew that it wasn't ready.

And what happened?  The democrats shit their political pants with the Obamacare startup and the people suddenly finding out that they've been had and costs are going up.  They are stuck with the mess and they can't delay it without admitting Cruz was right.

It's like Cruz put a great big spotlight on Obamacare so its failure could glare in the lights of national TV for all to see. 

This is just poltiical analysis but it really looks like Cruz set a political trap for Obama.  He also exposed the progressive RINO's in the Republican Party.    :highfive::lolsy:


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19062043 - 10/31/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19062084 - 10/31/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That man is the biggest clown in politics, and yes I hope he runs for president just as I hoped Sarah and Michelle Bachman would.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #19062087 - 10/31/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

hey it's the racist psycho sweeper!!


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19062232 - 10/31/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So, what happened?  He got up, made a lot of noise about delaying Obamacare and got the Democrats to commit hard to keeping Obamacare going.  the Democrats committed, Obama committed, and at the last minute Cruz said OK, you win--and he dropped his opposition.




What the fuck .  They were already committed to keeping obama care . Voting to repeal it 46 times and not getting anywhere would tell you that.  He dropped his opposition because even his own limp dick party was saying  oh my god what a fucking retard .  I hope he runs for president , it will ensure a democratic victory , because he really is fucking stupid.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: psilynut] * 2
    #19062237 - 10/31/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The Left Wing Extremists are scared to death of Ted Cruz..


btw it is almost the first of the month Libs. At least you will eat well for a week.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19062275 - 10/31/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The Left Wing Extremists are scared to death of Ted Cruz..





You boys need new lines. I heard those same lines about Sarah.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #19062283 - 10/31/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And it was all true, now like i said, go get ya some free groceries tomorrow.

Still wonder how you pulled of not getting a ban for using a racial slur. 

j\k i know how ya did it :blowjob:


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: psilynut]
    #19062286 - 10/31/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What the fuck .  They were already committed to keeping obama care . Voting to repeal it 46 times and not getting anywhere would tell you that.  He dropped his opposition because even his own limp dick party was saying  oh my god what a fucking retard .  I hope he runs for president , it will ensure a democratic victory , because he really is fucking stupid.




psilynut what do you have against the fucking stupid?

That's would be an upgrade for Caravelle Cruz.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19062680 - 10/31/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So, what happened?  He got up, made a lot of noise about delaying Obamacare and got the Democrats to commit hard to keeping Obamacare going.  the Democrats committed, Obama committed, and at the last minute Cruz said OK, you win--and he dropped his opposition.

Obama wanted the govenment shutdown so he could blame Cruz and Republicans for Obamacare's failed implementation AND get it delayed because the D's knew that it wasn't ready.

And what happened?  The democrats shit their political pants with the Obamacare startup and the people suddenly finding out that they've been had and costs are going up.  They are stuck with the mess and they can't delay it without admitting Cruz was right.

It's like Cruz put a great big spotlight on Obamacare so its failure could glare in the lights of national TV for all to see. 

This is just poltiical analysis but it really looks like Cruz set a political trap for Obama.  He also exposed the progressive RINO's in the Republican Party.    :highfive::lolsy:




Obama certainly wasn't behind the shutdown. The Koch Brothers were, you know the people who fund the tea party movement. As much as I don't like politicians, Obama was not behind the shutdown. The Koch Brothers need to be brought to justice, if not for the shutdown, for all the evil shit they have done for oil and coal companies. I read a lot.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: mindgnome] * 1
    #19062690 - 10/31/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you read a lot? :lol: you mean you listen a lot to what the left says.........  but nice try.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19062725 - 10/31/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No I read a lot, that is what I meant to say. What you said wasn't even a argument because you are repeating the same stupid shit that they all say. I am not trying to be a jerk but it is true.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: mindgnome]
    #19062729 - 10/31/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

who is "they" according to you? i wanna see what you come up with now


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19062747 - 10/31/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It is the people that assume I am a liberal when in reality I couldn't give less of a fuck about politics. Politics is bullshit but when I say that people assume I am a liberal. Politicians don't have a say. Basically you supporting a politician is you supporting the corporation who bought them out.


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"As I walk on through troubled times my spirit gets so downhearted sometimes so where are the strong and who are the trusted? And where is the harmony? Sweet harmony. Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry. What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?" - Nick Lowe

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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: mindgnome]
    #19062756 - 10/31/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:okay: duly noted


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19062778 - 10/31/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It is the truth though, it drives me crazy that no one else sees what I see. It is the truth.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: mindgnome]
    #19062784 - 10/31/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just because YOU see something or think something doesn't make it true or right. THAT is the Liberal thinking.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19062841 - 10/31/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:rolleyes: pfft cmon now. That is ridiculous.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: mindgnome]
    #19062848 - 10/31/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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:rolleyes: pfft cmon now. That is ridiculous.



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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19062886 - 10/31/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ted Cruz's wife is a VP at GOLDMAN SACHS, the most crooked financial organization in the Western world, something tells me Ted is just "one of them" when it comes to anything.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: qman]
    #19062893 - 10/31/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:laugh2:   


i told myself i would stop trying to talk sense into libtards.

So i am gonna stick to my promise.....


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19062917 - 10/31/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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:laugh2:   


i told myself i would stop trying to talk sense into libtards.

So i am gonna stick to my promise.....




Who are you calling the "libtard"?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: qman]
    #19062919 - 10/31/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the Libtard, is that you? Or are you aligned with the Independents?

Libertarians?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY]
    #19062966 - 10/31/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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the Libtard, is that you? Or are you aligned with the Independents?

Libertarians?




I have a tendency to scrutinize both liberals/democrats and conservative/republicans on these boards, I have been accused on being a "libtard" one day and then a "fox watching republican" the next day.

I come from the school of "follow the money" when it comes to politics, both parties are one of the same, playing off each other to present the illusion of a functional two party system, getting emotionally involved in the R vs D debate is for suckers in my opinion.

I have been calling Obama Care for what it is, a corporate takeover of the health care system with the use of a gun, the conservatives call it "socialized medicine", which is a bunch of bullshit, I wonder why they mis-characterized Obama Care?  It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: qman]
    #19062971 - 10/31/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I see your point, i may not agree 100% but i see where you are coming from.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: B_BOY] * 1
    #19063117 - 10/31/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

All right, this has gone on far too long.

There are people here who know how to stay (just barely) on the acceptable side of flaming, and people who don't. I have been too permissive in my duties lately and let a lot of line-crossing occur. That's on me; my bad. But that ends now.

I can't be bothered going back and handing out bans to all the ban-worthy posts that have been made in the last few days, and it could be argued that it would be unfair to do so. So you all get a free pass on your latest nonsense.

But that free pass ends now.

Starfire, zap, Mush, B_Boy, sweeper, qman, Mush4… all of you guys need to dial it back about three or four notches on the flame/troll dial or you will be getting slapped with a ban. If you think your name doesn't belong on that list, don't cry about it. Just suck it up and keep on truckin'… if you don't break the rules you won't be banned.

Fair warning.



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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Phred]
    #19063132 - 10/31/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

understood,  all i ask is for the same treatment for everyone, which up to this point has not happened.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: mindgnome]
    #19064016 - 10/31/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It is the people that assume I am a liberal when in reality I couldn't give less of a fuck about politics. Politics is bullshit but when I say that people assume I am a liberal. Politicians don't have a say. Basically you supporting a politician is you supporting the corporation who bought them out.



If you don't care about politics why are you trolling this forum with stupid shit?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Phred]
    #19064020 - 10/31/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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All right, this has gone on far too long.

There are people here who know how to stay (just barely) on the acceptable side of flaming, and people who don't. I have been too permissive in my duties lately and let a lot of line-crossing occur. That's on me; my bad. But that ends now.

I can't be bothered going back and handing out bans to all the ban-worthy posts that have been made in the last few days, and it could be argued that it would be unfair to do so. So you all get a free pass on your latest nonsense.

But that free pass ends now.

Starfire, zap, Mush, B_Boy, sweeper, qman, Mush4… all of you guys need to dial it back about three or four notches on the flame/troll dial or you will be getting slapped with a ban. If you think your name doesn't belong on that list, don't cry about it. Just suck it up and keep on truckin'… if you don't break the rules you won't be banned.

Fair warning.



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What did I do this time?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19066162 - 10/31/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Because it is good for discussion. I just like to show people the truth...Frank Zappa didn't like politics.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: mindgnome]
    #19066651 - 10/31/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So if Ted Cruz is 'stupid' why does Harvard Law Professor Alan Gershowitz--a very left Liberal--say that Ted Cruz is, without a doubt, right at the top of the most brilliant Law Students he ever had?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: starfire_xes]
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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Phred]
    #19066930 - 10/31/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Phred said:
All right, this has gone on far too long.

There are people here who know how to stay (just barely) on the acceptable side of flaming, and people who don't. I have been too permissive in my duties lately and let a lot of line-crossing occur. That's on me; my bad. But that ends now.

I can't be bothered going back and handing out bans to all the ban-worthy posts that have been made in the last few days, and it could be argued that it would be unfair to do so. So you all get a free pass on your latest nonsense.

But that free pass ends now.

Starfire, zap, Mush, B_Boy, sweeper, qman, Mush4… all of you guys need to dial it back about three or four notches on the flame/troll dial or you will be getting slapped with a ban. If you think your name doesn't belong on that list, don't cry about it. Just suck it up and keep on truckin'… if you don't break the rules you won't be banned.

Fair warning.

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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19068454 - 11/01/13 04:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Ted Cruz is bred from morons.




So if Ted Cruz is 'stupid' why does Harvard Law Professor Alan Gershowitz--a very left Liberal--say that Ted Cruz is, without a doubt, right at the top of the most brilliant Law Students he ever had?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19068721 - 11/01/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ted Cruz born in CANADA to a Father from Cuba

Sounds worst then O's pedigree, wonder he'll get the same shit?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #19068742 - 11/01/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

can't get much worse than attending a madrasa , starting your political career in the home of a domestic terrorist. Going to a radical racist church. Never had a real job. Had dead people vote him in, had more people vote than were registered in some precincts. Yeah sounds worse huh? And what shit you talking about? No one vetted Obama at all. Hilliary tried but was threatened. After doing some research, sweeper54 i have cam to the conclusion that you are just trolling.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19069147 - 11/01/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Ted Cruz is bred from morons.




So if Ted Cruz is 'stupid' why does Harvard Law Professor Alan Gershowitz--a very left Liberal--say that Ted Cruz is, without a doubt, right at the top of the most brilliant Law Students he ever had?




Where did I say Ted Cruz is stupid?  Even if I were to believe that, what does being a "brilliant Law Student" have to do with being a fucking douche who doesn't understand how to govern?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19069184 - 11/01/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Even if I were to believe that, what does being a "brilliant Law Student" have to do with being a fucking douche who doesn't understand how to govern?




Well, it would put him several steps above the current douche in the Oval Office.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19069190 - 11/01/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's just like, your opinion, man.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19069200 - 11/01/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

One which more and more seem to share.

Bush was a douche. Obama is a giant bacteria infested douche.

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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19069233 - 11/01/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I personally think Obama is an extremely weak president, but I don't think his administration has done as much harm in both foreign and domestic policy as his predecessor.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19069292 - 11/01/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I personally think Obama is an extremely weak president, but I don't think he has done as much harm in both foreign and domestic policy as his predecessor.




Then why don't you become intellectually honest about your idol?  Just saying he's better than somebody else (who really sucks) is not much of an argument.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: qman]
    #19069302 - 11/01/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Seems rather foolish for you to go on a limb and say that Obama is my "idol."  I'm way further left than Obama, but if he successfully destroys the right wing theatre of American politics, than I'm all for it.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19069768 - 11/01/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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but if he successfully destroys the right wing theatre of American politics, than I'm all for it.




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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains] * 2
    #19070329 - 11/01/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I personally think Obama is an extremely weak president, but I don't think his administration has done as much harm in both foreign and domestic policy as his predecessor.



:rofl2:Other nations used to fear us.  Now they mock us.  Well done, Barry.  Domestically Bush was quite harmful with his socialist bullshit but he can't hold a candle to this cunt


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19071233 - 11/01/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Obama got the NPP because the World hated lil'bush, we lost the respect you need for peoples to fear you. We became Bullies, disrespected Bullies.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: sweeper54]
    #19071800 - 11/01/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, I suspect they are playing on the same team in a bigger game.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19072013 - 11/01/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I personally think Obama is an extremely weak president, but I don't think his administration has done as much harm in both foreign and domestic policy as his predecessor.



:rofl2:Other nations used to fear us.  Now they mock us.  Well done, Barry.  Domestically Bush was quite harmful with his socialist bullshit but he can't hold a candle to this cunt





Proof?  Not only proof, what the fuck are you talking about?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19074209 - 11/02/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
I personally think Obama is an extremely weak president, but I don't think his administration has done as much harm in both foreign and domestic policy as his predecessor.



:rofl2:Other nations used to fear us.  Now they mock us.  Well done, Barry.  Domestically Bush was quite harmful with his socialist bullshit but he can't hold a candle to this cunt





Proof?  Not only proof, what the fuck are you talking about?




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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #19088752 - 11/05/13 05:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ahhhhh Ted Cruz.

The man who befuddled me.  Leading up to the shutdown, and until well into it, I hadn't seen Ted Cruz on TV. I hadn't heard him speak.  No audio, no pictures, nothing.  I knew him only as the face of the blundered moves the GOP was making on the national scale.

Then I saw him on MSNBC (or CNBC, or some other not-FOX news program).  He was sitting in with XYZ seasoned interviewer, and they were attempting to lambast him for the garbage mess he had created and the farcical way it unfolded - and CRUZ absolutely shut him down.  Not only did he shut down/dodge the questions like any generic politician would, but he did so in a style, phrasing, and verbiage choice that had an aggregate effect of completely undermining the interviewer and making it seem as though he was foolish for calling out cruz in the first place.

The Harvard Law professor is right:  this guy is brilliant.  Or, he's an idiot who can speak brilliantly (but, let's be honest, despite our subjective views of his personal beliefs and political standpoints, odds are - he's objectively brilliant).









I can't wait to see him at a podium vs. a democratic presidential nominee.  Shit, against any political rival.  I bet he EATS THEM ALIVE.  Given the spotlight of a national podium, given a presidential run (2020 - assuming a Hillary win in 2016), I think he could be surprisingly effective (if, if and IF he starts to quietly walk towards the middle - NOW).


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: memes]
    #19088989 - 11/05/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So he can talk, Rev Al Sharpton can talk but I don't want don't want to listen to him.

Cruz can talk around any subject, but he's too far to the right to be a national candidate. His politics only plays in deep red states and with legislators in hard red districts.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: sweeper54]
    #19089052 - 11/05/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So he can talk, Rev Al Sharpton can talk but I don't want don't want to listen to him.

Cruz can talk around any subject, but he's too far to the right to be a national candidate. His politics only plays in deep red states and with legislators in hard red districts.




Al Sharpton mispronounces words and butchers the English language on a daily basis.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: qman]
    #19090173 - 11/05/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And Ted talks like he has a dick in his mouth. I don't listen to either.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: sweeper54]
    #19090468 - 11/05/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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And Ted talks like he has a dick in his mouth. I don't listen to either.




:lolsy:

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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19090978 - 11/05/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There is nobody more bullshit covered than the Community Organizer in Chief aka President SGT Shultz who knows nothing.  If you like your plan you can keep it.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod]
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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19091030 - 11/05/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Had the required benefit level not changed, it's likely the policies would not have been cancelled. Your link was to one of the most pathetic and poorly reasoned columns ever by Juan, and that says much.

There's nothing racist about pointing out what an incompetent asshole the current occupant of the Oval Office is. Your response does reflect on your inability to refute his points though.

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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19091033 - 11/05/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

People have been getting their policies cancelled for years.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19091041 - 11/05/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Millions in just a few weeks?

The insurance companies have been clear enough as to why the policies were cancelled.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19091052 - 11/05/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/11/05/insurance-cancelled-dont-blame-obama-or-aca-blame-america-insurance-companies/

But keep up with the racist undertones, zap, makes you look great.




There are no racist undertones, Juan Williams can go fuck himself, Obamacare made my insurance illegal when I was perfectly satisfied with it.  He lied.  Juan Williams is a cunt and what does racism have to do with this?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19091863 - 11/05/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well, you're a racist first of all, so it always has something to do with it.  "Juan Williams can go fuck himself," "he lied," so you have nothing to say about the points presented besides "Juan Williams is a cunt?"  I thought this was the Political Discussion forum, not the Political I'm-going-to-piss-and-moan forum.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19091947 - 11/05/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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[url=http://www.foxnews.com/OPINION/2013/11/05/insurance-cancelled-dont-blame-obama-or-aca-blame-america-insurance-companies/]http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/11/05/insurance-cancelled-dont-blame-obama-or-aca-blame-america-insurance-companies/[/url]






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: a belief, judgment, or way of thinking about something : what someone thinks about a particular thing

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noun plural but singular in construction, often attributive \ˈnüz, ˈnyüz\

: new information or a report about something that has happened recently

You do know the difference between news and editorial, right? :smirk:


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19091959 - 11/05/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You do know that editorials can contain facts, right?  What is the difference that there are policies being cancelled this year from the policies that got cancelled last year?  And the year before that?  And for the year before that?  And from the year that health insurance was created?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19092006 - 11/05/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Well, you're a racist first of all, so it always has something to do with it.  "Juan Williams can go fuck himself," "he lied," so you have nothing to say about the points presented besides "Juan Williams is a cunt?"  I thought this was the Political Discussion forum, not the Political I'm-going-to-piss-and-moan forum.





You presented Juan Williams as an authority who deserves respect.  No he does not.  He is a liar like Obama.  He didn't present points.  He presented demonstrable and provable lies.

It is not racist to point out that a Negro is a liar.  It is racist to constantly whine that criticizing a Negro is racist.  I don't care that they are Negroes.  I care that they are lying kleptocrat cunts.  The color of their skin is of no concern to me.  I am closer to MLK's ideal than Obama is.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19092042 - 11/05/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You do know that editorials can contain facts, right?  What is the difference that there are policies being cancelled this year from the policies that got cancelled last year?  And the year before that?  And for the year before that?  And from the year that health insurance was created?





The difference is that they are cancelled because they don't satisfy government requirements--and the insurance companies are offering new plans that do--at a commensurate price. 


But the real difference?  "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan.  Period."  He Blew smoke up the peoples ass to get this fucking abominable turd shoved down the throats of he american people.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19092061 - 11/05/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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He presented demonstrable and provable lies.




Lets see the proof then.

I won't hold my breath.

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It is not racist to point out that a Negro is a liar.  It is racist to constantly whine that criticizing a Negro is racist.  I don't care that they are Negroes.  I care that they are lying kleptocrat cunts.  The color of their skin is of no concern to me.  I am closer to MLK's ideal than Obama is.




I've never heard the term "bullshit covered."  You try to be subtle with your racism but you aren't.  Anybody with more than half a brain knows what you're trying to say.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19092109 - 11/05/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The difference is that they are cancelled because they don't satisfy government requirements--and the insurance companies are offering new plans that do--at a commensurate price. 


But the real difference?  "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan.  Period."  He Blew smoke up the peoples ass to get this fucking abominable turd shoved down the throats of he american people.




Oh man, a president is wrong about something.  Let's bring out the pitchforks :rolleyes:

Most of these policies being cancelled could easily be changed to comply with the law.  The companies choose to cancel them instead.

So, once again, your only complaint is the "government requirement?"  Instead of people getting dropped from plans for lifetime caps, unable to get insurance because of pre-existing conditions?

Show me one year where insurance premiums haven't gone up, and then you can bitch about costs.

Single-payer, two tier, or public option would have been the route to go, why didn't you republicans tell your Congressmen and Senators to support it?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19095047 - 11/06/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

He wasn't wrong.  He deliberately lied.  Why do you kiss his ass so much?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/31/obama-officials-in-2010-93-million-americans-will-be-unable-to-keep-their-health-plans-under-obamacare/

Obama administration knew that Obamacare would disrupt private plans

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If you read the Affordable Care Act when it was passed, you knew that it was dishonest for President Obama to claim that “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan,” as he did—and continues to do—on countless occasions. And we now know that the administration knew this all along. It turns out that in an obscure report buried in a June 2010 edition of the Federal Register, administration officials predicted massive disruption of the private insurance market.




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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: zappaisgod]
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    #19095074 - 11/06/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I knew it was a lie.  You knew it was a lie.  Obama knew it was a lie.  How come the press didn't know it was a lie?


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    #19095261 - 11/06/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The press did know it wouldn't be possible.  And they said that.


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19095274 - 11/06/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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    #19095301 - 11/06/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The press did know it wouldn't be possible.  And they said that.





Where?  When?  I saw nothing in the NY Times about it until a few weeks ago and I read the whole newspaper.


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    #19095307 - 11/06/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think he meant they said it AFTER the fact :lol:


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    #19095401 - 11/06/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The press did know it wouldn't be possible.  And they said that.





Where?  When?  I saw nothing in the NY Times about it until a few weeks ago and I read the whole newspaper.




Well, there was a great writeup in the Guardian just today about this.

factcheck.org - 2009.

ABC News - 2009

WaPo - 2010

CBO - 2010

The Hill - 2010.

NY Post - 2010



But now everybody is "surprised."


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    #19095414 - 11/06/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Including Obama huh?  Look he lied over 30 times about the law, plain and simple bait and switch tactic. There is no spinning this argument. He lied over and over and over and the polls show this now.


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    #19095434 - 11/06/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You sound really butthurt that I just provided six examples all over three years old about something you claimed never happened.  There was coverage.  People ignored it.


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    #19096151 - 11/06/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Looks like Obama is in trouble over his lies

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx





So do you think it will hurt his chances to be re-elected?


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Re: Ted Cruz Played Obama and The Democrats Like A Fiddle [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19096285 - 11/06/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The press did know it wouldn't be possible.  And they said that.





Where?  When?  I saw nothing in the NY Times about it until a few weeks ago and I read the whole newspaper.




Well, there was a great writeup in the Guardian just today about this.

Anna Marie Cox?  She's the press?  In Limeyland?

factcheck.org - 2009.

Fact check isn't the press either.  Does anybody read them?

ABC News - 2009

Questionable

WaPo - 2010

New health-care rules could add costs,

CBO - 2010

The CBO is not the press

The Hill - 2010.

Well there is that one.  Does anybody read The Hill?

NY Post - 2010

Yay the Post.  You do realize what theya re, right? 



But now everybody is "surprised."




I'm not surprised.  I knew it.  Why didn't Obama?


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