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First post and grow!
    #19059737 - 10/30/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hello Shroomery!

I have been lurking around these forums for the past few years just as a way to supplement my knowledge about shrooms but recently decided to take the plunge.  I am an avid user of google and the search function so never really had a need or desire to post anything until now.  I started researching cultivation more than normal over the past few months as I am an need of a new hobby to bring some joy to a life filled with work, school, etc.  I figured the PF tek was the way to go as I wanted to do things right.

After placing an order to one of the sponsors I received my first set of syringes on October 4th, very fast after placing the order I might add.  I then inoculated 8 jars (6-cambodian, 2-PE) on the 6th and began the wait.  1/2 pint wide mouths were used with a mix of personally ground BRF and Vermiculite. 2:1:1 ratio of verm, water, then BRF. 

9 days went by and no growth was observed so I decided to mix a few more jars.  I knew it would likely take a little more time than this but figured with my giant amount of Vermiculite I might as well go for it.

This time 7 jars were mixed/steam sterilized/inoculated on the 15th.  2-PE and 5-Treasure Coast.  I lessened the water content slightly as my first jars seemed a little moist and I had a growing concern for bacterial contam despite only being a week in.  I also incorporated some uniquely shaped 1/2 pint plastic jars just because I happened to see them for cheap on the shelf as I was leaving a grocery store.  Tape was also used during sterilization in addition to foil.  Tape was not used for the first set. 

A day or 2 later I noted a large amount of colonization at 2 of the 4 inoc points on the jar of one of the original PEs.  This is ~12 days after inoculation.  I of course got excited and 1 week later on the 26th shot up 12 more jars 5-AA+, 4-PE, 3-TC.  This time the taller 1/2 pints were used.  Over the following week I began noticing some colonization of my other jars as well and even the plastics. 

These are of that same jar 2 days ago. 




On the pic of the bottom of the jar you may see an area that looks concerning in the 5-6 o clock position which I am concerned with as well so I'm watching it closely.  You will also notice in some over all shots that some jars are in open top boxes and some aren't.  With all the different info out there I thought having a few sets going in slightly diff conditions would tell me which works best. 



The only negative thing so far is the 6 Cambodian jars.  No growth at all however no smell to make me think something is wrong.  I have a medical and scientific background and have worked in hospitals and labs in the past so sterile technique is nothing new.  This should also explain the desire to experiment a little as I go along which I know isn't necessarily recommended.  I'm thinking if anything it was a higher than desired water content combined with too many cc's of solution 10cc spread across all 6.  Either way they look/smell exactly like they did after sterilization and inoculation so I will wait patiently and see.

Sorry for all the text.  I would have included more pics but it took some convincing myself that it was safe to sign up for this site so didn't want to just start uploading like crazy.  I read the rules, guidelines, and all that so hopefully everything is ok.

  Thanks for reading if you made it this far and any critiques would be appreciated.


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Re: First post and grow! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19059795 - 10/30/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

10cc is plenty for 6 jars, I did 12 per syringe when I did cakes :shrug: I wouldn't be too worried just yet, I've had slow spores that took 3 weeks before. As long as your jars were cooled when you inoculated and your not roasting them in an unnecessary incubator then just be patient. If they don't produce anything, you might have just gotten a bunk syringe, I have had that before too.

Otherwise the ones you got going look pretty good, keep it up :thumbup:


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Re: First post and grow! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19059818 - 10/30/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Did you shake the syringe before every inoculation?


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Re: First post and grow! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19059840 - 10/30/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Pastywhyte said:
and your not roasting them in an unnecessary incubator then...
Otherwise the ones you got going look pretty good, keep it up :thumbup:




No need for name calling now:cookiemonster: im a fan of my incubator





But on another note sgtpepper great thread and awesome picture so far ( hard to find good HD pictures on here) looking forward to seeing your results!


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Re: First post and grow! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19059871 - 10/30/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, just have patience.  I used the tall 1/2 pints by accident.  So far, so good.  They just took a little longer to colonize.  The very bottom took the longest the first time.  I think they got a little compacted from me always picking them up to look at them.

  The second time I made sure I loaded them loosely and then left them alone in a drawer.  Those turned out a bit shorter, but colonized faster.

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Re: First post and grow! [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
    #19059886 - 10/30/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cooled overnight ~8-10 hours and no incubator used.  The room temperature fluctuates a bit (74-78 deg F) i would say but I never let it go over 80.

I also did shake the syringes like crazy before inoculation.  All the syringes I got had a pretty sizable black clump in them oriented towards the plunger so I knew I needed to disperse them first.  I read a TON of reviews on all the sponsors and feel the one I picked was pretty reliable. 

As far as the tall jars the only knock on them I have read is longer colonization times and stalling.  The short wide mouths are available to me so I did those first.  The taller ones were an impulse buy just for the heck of it.  Its funny how I find myself walking the canning isle now at stores when I used to never care.

Thanks for the responses everyone!  I will keep you updated on my progress.


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Re: First post and grow! [Re: kratom_redmomd]
    #19059899 - 10/30/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, just have patience.  I used the tall 1/2 pints by accident.  So far, so good.  They just took a little longer to colonize.  The very bottom took the longest the first time.  I think they got a little compacted from me always picking them up to look at them.

  The second time I made sure I loaded the m loosely and then left them alone in a drawer.  Those turned out a bit shorter, but colonized faster.

GL



Yeah, my first grow was with regular mouth half pints too.  Worked just fine but now that I know how much faster widemouth colonize, I wont use anything else. 

Great pics.  Everything looks good so far.  However you're being very generous with your ratio of spores to jars.  I've successfully inoculated a jar with .5ccs of solution.  1cc is plenty/a jar.  One 10CC syringe should give you 10 half pint jars.


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Re: First post and grow! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19059919 - 10/30/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the spores can travel to the tip while inoculating leaving you with the first few jars being the only ones with a good amount of spores.


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Re: First post and grow! [Re: 2bittoker]
    #19059936 - 10/30/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thats kind of what I thought 2bit.  For the subsequent sets I reduced it down to 1 cc a jar.  I guess its just one of those things when you start something new.  I read and read and read that 1cc/jar was perfect but just couldn't resist trying to give them that extra push.


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Re: First post and grow! [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
    #19059964 - 10/30/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I thought that might have happened too Mush but in that case I would think 1 or 2 of the jars would show something.  All 6 are completely normal and look exactly the same.  Its funny because I had read Cambodians are fast but those are the only ones not showing anything.  I know strain doesn't mean much to a lot of people but still thought it was interesting as the PE which I was suspecting to be slow was the only one out of the 1st group that is colonizing.


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Re: First post and grow! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19059967 - 10/30/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You will see jars with a crap load of germination points with allot of spores injected.


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Quick update with pics! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19071253 - 11/01/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just a quick update on progress of these jars.

Here are 2 pics of the jar that I showed last time.  Bottom is all colonized, just a small stripe on the side needs to get done until it consolidates for a week.   





Here the furthest along of the unique plastic jars.  2 of these are colonizing, 1 isn't.  I'm thinking the bend in the plastic may cause it some trouble but we will see. 



Another short 1/2 pint. 


Small area of growth on a tall 1/2 pint out of the last group of inoculations.  The glare of kind of covers it up but you can still see it. 






Now I just need to make some decisions on fruiting chamber.  I am going to go with the SGFC but initially bought a large sized 105 qt tub as I though I was going to have a bunch of cakes at once.  Not too sure if this will still work as that 1 jar will be done way before the others.  Need to do a little research about FC size and if it will still get the proper FAE and humidity levels if its the only cake in there.  Luckily no holes were drilled yet so I can return it if needed.


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Re: Quick update with pics! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19071951 - 11/01/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Congrats and enjoy!  There is nothing like the excitement of your first grow and experiencing first hand the growing of your own psychadelics.  Keep us posted!


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UPDATE!! [Re: 2bittoker]
    #19169412 - 11/21/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So here is where I am at.  Got a bunch of jars still colonizing. Some tall some short some plastic. 



2 cakes are in the FC and have been for 8 days.  They consolidated for a week and after 8 days are still showing no signs of pinning.  You guys suggest anything?  Or should I just be patient?



Cake with a lot of aerial myc





The other cake, not so much aerial stuff, it has grown through the verm layer that was rolled on.



I mist 2-3 times a day.  1 in the morning, 1 at night and 1 in the mid afternoon if I am home.  I fan more often then misting probably every 2-3 hours depending on when I am available during the day.  They probably get 5-6 fans total.  12/12 light cycle with the blinds open letting in ambient sunlight plus a 6500K light positioned in the corner of the room.

Everything looking ok here?


Here is another FC.  I had 2 cakes that smelt a little off so I was worried about throwing them in with the others.  So I made a smaller FC to hold them in a separate room. 





1 was fully cased in verm the other just got it on the top and bottom.  Figured I could experiment a little with those since RR suggested I just toss them in the garden I am not expecting much to happen with them.  We will see though.


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19169581 - 11/21/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If your holes are drilled to spec every two inches, then it looks like you got about 2"-2.5" of perlite in there. Should be closer to 4". Do you have holes on all six sides and is it elevated (hard to see in the pic)?

Fan only when you mist. Excessive fanning will dry the cakes out. Fanning is not for FAE is only to promote a little evaporation. If all these conditions are met then sometimes it just takes a little longer, patience is a virtue.


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19169796 - 11/21/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It was built to spec. It has 3" of perlite in there. I knew 4 was more optimal and considered adding more but since my humidity seemed perfect (fluctuating between 92-100) I decided not too. 

Holes on all six sides.  It sits about 3-4 feet in the air with the bottom exposed.

The only reason I was fanning more was because it seemed too wet at times. I thought fanning was to move the stale air out of the tub and replace it with fresh air while also promoting evaporation.  I guess I'm a little confused now.


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19169835 - 11/21/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The SGFC will move the stale air out all on its own. Fanning just promotes a little evaporation which is a pinning trigger. Because where I live is very dry, 3" would never cut it for me, 4" was not even enough. If your RH is high enough with 3" that's fine, no need to add more, but I gotta ask, how do you know your getting 92-100% RH?


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19170052 - 11/21/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I must say a SGFC has a problem with keeping the humidity up in certain areas...:crazy:


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: Dyno05]
    #19170102 - 11/21/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, as the others said, you need 4 inches, minimum, to keep RH up in a Shotgun FC.  The more the better.  If you cant add more, I would try misting more often and making sure to fan equally more often.  If you live in a dry area, its a must to add more perlite.

Fanning, as said, its to promote evap and also to eliminate excess water buildup, which can lead to contams.  Make sure when you mist, there is no standing water on the cakes.

I cant see what its sitting on.  Make sure that bottom holes are NOT covered.  This is a must to eliminate CO2 Build up.


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: 2bittoker]
    #19171293 - 11/21/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It is sitting on 2 bar stools 1 on each side.  So the entire bottom is pretty much open to allow air to pass through.  I originally read in the tek 3"-5" so I stopped at 3 strictly because the perlite I had contained a TON of sand/dust.  It took like 3 hours of sifting through it to get that much medium/coarse perlite. When I was done I had 2" of sand in my bath tub, pretty much half of the bag was sand.

I still have a little left so I can probably sift out another .5-1" if im lucky.  I also have some in the smaller FC I could steal if needed.  My girlfriend won't be too happy about seeing the Perlite bag getting pulled back out lol.  Its so messy!

When I mist i don't do it heavily enough to where there is standing water.  There may be few droplets sitting on the foil but it is pretty minimal.  I do it enough the where the cakes "glisten" like I have read in some other threads.

I know hygrometers are unreliable and for the first 6 days I didnt have one.  I bought one because I was a little concerned with the RH but it read 100% when wrapped in a damp towel and when I put it in the FC it reads from 93-100.  This will drop when I fan to about 80 but then it creeps back up pretty quickly after I put the lid back on.

I live in the south so it is pretty dry here but it has been raining and stuff lately.  Plus with the hygrometer reading what it said I wasn't worried too much about the RH.  I will probably add some perlite though just to be on the safe side. 

I have read in a ton of places that aerial myc isn't that big of a deal and usually doesn't effect fruiting.  Do you guys agree?


Thanks of all the suggestions everyone! This place is awesome.  If anyone else has something to add, feel free.  I will take all the suggestions I can get.


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19171458 - 11/21/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Pasty,  I didn't see that question in your last post.  I answered it in my post above but the Hygrometer is where the humidity numbers are coming from.  Sorry I should have said that initially. 

I have read lots of posts where people say their RH is good but are basing that on visual cues or something.  Maybe they have magic humidity reading eyes?


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19171620 - 11/21/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

aerial myc is fine and the humidity that you should worry about is on the surface of your cake, as the moisture from your mist evaporates it creates 100 percent humidity on the surface of your sub where you could not measure, keep up with you mist/fan and you will be golden


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19171633 - 11/21/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I have read in a ton of places that aerial myc isn't that big of a deal and usually doesn't effect fruiting.




Depends on why you have aerial mycelium. It can often be a symptom of poor FAE but I doubt that is cause of it in this case. It could be that it needed more than a week to properly consolidate (the suggested week is more of a minimum anyway). That could be why you don't have pins yet, the mycelium is still consolidating. If that's the case, then it will pin when it pins and all you can do is make sure conditions stay good. It will probably be fine.


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: cronicr]
    #19171660 - 11/21/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hey cronicr thanks for the reassurance. 

What you said is what I thought and is the reason I fanned more than I misted.  I would mist then fan.  Come back 3 hours later and still see moisture so I fanned to promote more evaporation but didn't want to mist and make them wetter.

Do you agree with what others have said to only fan when I mist?  People suggest only misting a few times a day so this would cut my fanning back to only 3X to go along with the mist.


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    #19171677 - 11/21/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

no you can/should fan between mits, cubes are not a fan of stale air


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19171684 - 11/21/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Pasty!! You are awesome.  You have no idea how much I appreciate you following my progress and helping me out.

As much as I feel I am a patient person it still gets tough and I need some other opinions.

I think I am going to add some perlite and decrease the amount I fan.  Since I have been researching this area of growing a little more I have read that letting the cakes consolidate longer is a huge plus.  A lot of people have said wait till you start to see pinning in the jar.  These were strictly 1 week no more, no less. 

Its so hard to tell yourself to wait when you want so badly to move on to the next step!


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Re: UPDATE!! [Re: cronicr]
    #19171722 - 11/21/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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no you can/should fan between mits, cubes are not a fan of stale air




I found that fanning between misting always dried out my cakes, though I don't have the luxury of living on the coast :wink: The frozen wasteland I call home is a little less hospitable :tongue:


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Update 11/27 PINS! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19198425 - 11/27/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I thought now would be a good time for an update.  After some recommendations I went ahead and added the rest of the perlite I had.  I'm still probably on the low side but it is around 3.5" now and my analog hygrometer fluctuates from 90-100%.  I also adjusted my mist/fan schedule a bit.  I started misting very lightly around 3 times a day trying to hit it around 5-6 hours apart if I could.  I haven't fanned as much but will occasionally fan in between if I feel it is needed.  I more or less just check them out and if they don't look moist I mist barely, if they still look moist I fan a bit.  My humidity also improves if I turn the perlite and mist a little as I turn it.  A benefit of having a 75% empty FC is I can do this without touching the cakes.

Anyway lets get to some pics.  This cake is looking great.  I noticed a lot of little knots about 4 days ago (will post pics eventually) and 2 days ago noticed some pins.



This cluster was the first set of small knots to appear.  It initially was around 1mm I would say?



Moving around the cake.



Lots of knots showed up in the bottom area of this pic.  Some pinning now.  The pins on top have grown in size the fastest.  Im guessing maybe I couldn't see them below the verm.





Some peeking out from the bottom.



Here is the other cake.  Still has this aerial myc and no signs of knots/pins/whatever.  It keeps looking really dry on 1 side but I think that is the myc fooling me.





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Re: Update 11/27 PINS! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19200525 - 11/28/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think they look fuckin' A man!  Good job!

What happened to the two cakes that smelled a little off?...the ones you put in the smaller FC?  Did you toss'em or let them go?


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Re: Update 11/27 PINS! [Re: 1down5up]
    #19204067 - 11/29/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks man!

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What happened to the two cakes that smelled a little off?...the ones you put in the smaller FC?  Did you toss'em or let them go?


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Those are still in the smaller FC.  Disaster struck last night when my stupid cat managed to pull down a lamp which in turn knocked over the small FC.  I cleaned everything up and it all looks ok but now these cakes have a couple of things going against them.  I noticed they won't smell when I open it up but when I mist the smell is back.  They haven't had any
obvious contams other than the weird smell so I will let them be and see what happens.


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Re: Update 11/27 PINS! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19204495 - 11/29/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Probably just a little bacteria. Just keep doing what your doing and it will probably work out. You won't see as many flushes with bacteria contamed cakes but you should still see some fruits. Your other cakes look like they are going good BTW :thumbup:


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Re: Update 11/30 more pics. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19208514 - 11/30/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey everybody.  Just another update.  The one that was growing fastest on top seems to have already broken its veil.  Will this be an abort that turns black or keep growing?  Either way I will wait and see, just curious. 

I also have some jars with pins forming through the verm layer.  They are still consolidating and just started that step 2 days ago.  I will have to post pics of those later...

These are all of the same cake that seems to be doing well.  The other is still just sitting there.  Everything looks healthy and the myc on the bottom keeps growing out so I will just wait it out.  I figure if the climate is good for this cake it should be fine for the other.









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Re: Update 11/30 more pics. [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19208598 - 11/30/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looks dry, which is a contributing factor to the broken veil and aborts. Might want to up your misting schedule and check your perlite to be sure its still moist. Nice pinset tho.


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Re: Update 11/30 more pics. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19208634 - 11/30/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the advice.  I finally have a day off so I will try and mist a little extra today.  That would also explain the aerial myc on the other wouldn't it?  The cake is dry so the myc is reaching out for more water.  No pinset because there isn't enough water evaporating off.

I keep reading things about how suddenly overnight they will double in size and be ready to pick.  So far it is slow but i notice a little growth everyday so im happy with that.


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Re: Update 11/30 more pics. [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19208663 - 11/30/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Aerial mycelium is usually an indication of insufficient FAE, thought I don't really see that on your cakes. I may have asked already but do you have holes in the bottom? No holes in the bottom will prevent the perlite from properly humidifying the chamber and also contribute to poor FAE. If you have holes in the bottom then I would first place the SGFC in the tub (remove the cakes first) and run the shower over it to get everything wet again. Rake the perlite up with your fingers to get it loose, and then up your mist/fan schedule.

Is your area dry? Mine is and I use 5" of perlite minimum for my SGFC or else it dries out way too soon. Make sure you don't have fans going, they will also dry it out. Those mushies are definitely parched. When you remove the cakes to re hydrate the perlite, note the weight. If they feel light, consider placing them in a saucer of water while in the chamber to hydrate the cakes.


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Re: Update 11/30 more pics. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19208679 - 11/30/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I try and turn the perlite every 2-3 days.  Since there are only 2 cakes in this big FC I have 75% of the perlite showing that i can mist and turn.  The RH always stays good.  I built it with holes on the top, bottom and sides. Followed the typical SGFC tek.

It could be a little more dry in the room though.  I have had to start running the heater in the house now that it is cold outside.  I have a humidifier that I run in the room occasionally.  Not pointing at the SGFC.  Its in there really for me.


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Re: Update 11/30 more pics. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19208690 - 11/30/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Update 11/30 more pics. [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19208745 - 11/30/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It was built to spec. It has 3" of perlite in there.




Here is a possible problem. Sounds like you deal with similar conditions that I do, cold climate, running furnace, dry house. I use 5"-6" in the winter. Just turning the perlite is not going to help much. Take that perlite and run the shower over it. Get it good and soaked. I strongly recommend getting another 2" of perlite in there. 3" is fine for people who live in Florida or Vancouver or on the coasts. Not for people in the north or dry ass prairies who run a furnace all day to deal with cold muthafuckin climates.

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The RH always stays good.




Maybe your hygrometer says its good, your fruits tell me otherwise.

Get the extra perlite, soak the hell outta it, and up your mist/fan schedule. Do it now. All those fruits you have are on the verge of aborting. Only having 2 cakes in a large chamber is not helping either. The cakes and fruits contribute to the overall RH. With only a few cakes you need to really make sure everything is working optimal.

Sorry if I seem harsh, but I have been in your position before. Shit that works fine for people in some parts of the planet, is utter disaster in my neck of the woods.


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Re: Update 11/30 more pics. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19209199 - 11/30/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I will just have to up my mist/fan schedule until I get more perlite.  As I said in another post I added the rest of this giant bag of perlite I had.  It wasn't cheap and took a ton of time to sift out the dust. I will try and get more though.

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Sorry if I seem harsh, but I have been in your position before. Shit that works fine for people in some parts of the planet, is utter disaster in my neck of the woods.




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Re: Update 12/1 and harvesting question [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19213192 - 12/01/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ok so last night and today they have grown quite a bit.  I originally though these where PE based on what I labeled my jar but it could have gotten mixed up.  Because of that, I was looking for wrinkling around the stem just below the cap and darkening of the gills to be my signs for when to harvest. 

However, now that they are getting bigger they are looking like just the standard cube not PE. Whatever they are isn't a big deal to me so strain aside do you guys/gals think I should just harvest these after the veil breaks?  The gills were already showing on the caps on top but they remain white.  The reason I ask is there is 1 that has obviously broken its veil. 

Judging by where the rest are I think I should let them all sit another 1-2 days and get bigger. 

Here are some pics.  I just misted before all of these.







Veil breaking to the left.



It was hard to see in some but a lot have the veils intact with the caps still closed around the stem.  For ex in pic 1 the shroom at the bottom has veil and the one off to the right is the one with it broken. 

Here are some of the other cakes in case anyone was wondering.

This is in the same FC as the cake above.  It has what I have been referring to as aerial myc.  Not sure what is going on with this one.  The myc appears white and healthy. 


(Sorry for the blurry pic)



Here is 1 of the 2 smelly cakes that are isolated in another FC.  It actually has some strange pins/knots on top.



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FINISHED! Update 12/6 [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19236556 - 12/06/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have been busy the past few days but it didn't feel right not finishing out the post with the final update.

Here is the cake that has been going well through the whole process.  Came out to 47.4 wet.  I was pretty pleased for the first flush on my first grow.  I then dried them using a fan for 2 days and then stored with Damprid.  It got them EXTREMELY dry which is good.  I don't know how many of you use Damprid but they sell these buckets that are perfect for these things.  If they were any bigger it would have been a tight fit but given their size it worked perfectly.  It actually comes in a tub with a smaller tub that sits inside.  For the usual intended use you put the damprid in the smaller bucket that has small strainer type holes in it and set it in whatever room you are trying to pull moisture out of.  I just threw some Damprid in the bottom of the tub and used the bucket to hold the shrooms above the Damprid.  IT WAS PERFECT.  Literally required 0 modification and cost less than 5 bucks for 2 tubs.

Anyway here is some pics. 



Pre harvest


Post harvest


Some of the more intersting ones.





A few dried



So there you have it...  I cloned one of the bigger faster growing ones into a LC with karo/water.  It will be interesting to see what happens there.  That cake was dunked and is back in the FC, no new signs of pinning yet.  1 of the "smelly" cakes in the smaller FC is showing some great growth and will be ready harvest in another few days.  The one with aerial type myc has a couple of tiny pins on top.  2 more cakes were also added so 6 in fruiting mode now. 

I could always post more pics later on but will try and refrain because I am sure you all have seen plenty of PF tek cake pics.  Thanks everyone for the great advice along the way.  Without this site there is no way I would have made it this far.  If anyone wants to see more just ask.


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Re: FINISHED! Update 12/6 [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19236777 - 12/06/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i wanna see more:cool:


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Re: FINISHED! Update 12/6 [Re: cronicr]
    #19236792 - 12/06/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You got it man! :thumbup:  Do I keep posting stuff in this same thread?  I don't want to be starting new threads all the time and getting on peoples nerves.


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Re: FINISHED! Update 12/6 [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19236797 - 12/06/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: FINISHED! Update 12/6 [Re: cronicr]
    #19236802 - 12/06/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: FINISHED! Update 12/6 [Re: cronicr]
    #19237098 - 12/06/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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sure post it here!





Well in that case might as well show where I'm at.  Something I am really enjoying is the difference between mixes/jars and everything else.  The variables you can change up are interesting especially when you see diff results.

Here is the one I cloned. Grew fastest from pin to mature. I thought the bend was cool too.  How it avoided the container by turning up. 




All the gills on these were completely white which I thought was interesting.  They darkened after drying from bruising but no visible spores.  At least that I could see.


Here is a cake I isolated because of the smell.  Now that I have fruited one I am starting to think it is just the a strong mush smell vs. bacteria.  I'm  going to leave it in there though to see what happens.  Maybe the smaller FC will do better, it seems I need to mist more though.  It has a diff light set up so it may be drying it out some.







Pins everywhere.



Dunked original cake on flush 2 bottom right.  Aerial myc cake bottom left.  New upper 2. 


Aerial myc cake.  Really small pins you can see a few on top and around the sides here.


Taller jar to experiment with.



Jars colonizing/consolidating. 


These are interesting to me.  Plastic jar consolidating that was then birthed into FC.  This and another of the same plastic ones had these invitro pins. 



Notice how after the birth it has a diff shape than the typical taller glass.  Wider at the bottom and skinny up top.  I would imagine this means more water will fall towards the bottom. 



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Re: FINISHED! Update 12/6 [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19237218 - 12/06/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

they bend because it's there purpose to get the best spore ejection possible, i had an awesome article about it somewhere but can't remember where right now, for the one with bacteria it's actually a good thing your only misting a little as bacteria thrives in wet enviroments, once it's done flushing just mist once in the morning and once at night to let the cake rest for a few days and dry up a bit and the bacteria should just go away, giving it some direct sunlight for a few minutes a day will also help, for your "taller jar to experiment with" i like to lay those on there sides and find i get much better pinsets doing so, and as for the shape diffrence after birth i believe it's just because the top has been colonized for much longer so it's consolidated more then the bottom, all in all a job well done brutha!


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Re: FINISHED! Update 12/6 [Re: cronicr]
    #19237306 - 12/06/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I appreciate the advise and encouragement.  Even thought I haven't posted much I have read threads with some of your names in them so I have respect for what you all have to say.

That would be an interesting article to read.  I like the biology aspect of this whole process.

The plastic jars are actually wider at one end because of the shape of the jar.  It actually has a dip halfway up almost like a stair step at a 45 degree angle.  If I have any success with them I will try and snap a pic of the empty jar to show everyone.  The bacteria cakes are also under a diff light than the big FC.  The larger has a daylight 6500K light as recommended and the other has just a random Red fluorescent that I had lying around. I try to not leave it on all day because it seems to dry them out a bit faster.  They also get indirect sunlight from a nearby window. 

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Harvest time! Isolated cake update! 12/8 [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19244591 - 12/08/13 11:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Okay so you saw where I was 2 days ago.  The cake that I though had a bacterial contam due to the smell has done well.  The more I think about it the more I think it is just the normal smell that I wasn't used to at the time. 

I thought now would be a good time to update since I harvested it (partially) today.  Here are some pics that show the progression and things I found interesting. 

Here it is a the next morning after the previous post.


The following night.





Veil broken but I waited it out because there multiple other ones that looked like they would be ready soon.  Figured I'd let this one grow out a bit.

This morning.







I harvested everything you see but the smaller ones on the side that still had the veil in tact.  I was debating whether or not these were part of the second flush or first flush based on diff things I have been reading.  Some places act like your 2nd may start with the first but will fall a little behind.  Either way I left them to grow a bit longer and I would think they will be opened up a little more by tonight. 

Cake after harvest.  Any ones with gills you see were attached pretty firmly so I couldn't remove them by themselves.







Here are some of the interesting ones I picked. 

This is my largest so far.  Being that it is the 2nd flush I have ever dealt with I was pretty excited to watch it grow.





Here is another that stuck together as 3 when harvested.  Below it is another pic of one with the gills turned out.  I noticed that both this cake and my first ever (still on its 2nd flush) had a lot of these mutants.  Both cakes produced all shrooms with white gills, no obvious spores, and a few with these completely turned out caps.  Not to concerned just thought it was neat.





The total harvest.  Keep in mind I am still not positive whether those left on the cake were 1st or 2nd flush.  Added up to roughly 49g wet rounding down. 



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Re: Harvest time! Isolated cake update! 12/8 [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19245069 - 12/08/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Harvest time! Isolated cake update! 12/8 [Re: cronicr]
    #19245956 - 12/08/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks man!

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UPDATE with a funky looking PE! 12/12 [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19264882 - 12/12/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So since my last update the pins that were left on the harvested cake grew out a lot.  About 2 days later I harvested them for another 23g wet.  Here are what they looked like at harvest.  Notice the PE cake next to it as this one has grown quite a bit as well. 



After harvesting there were STILL some small pins that didn't look bad as if they were going to abort so I held off on the dunk.  So far that cake was only dunked once and hasn't started its 2nd flush.  It is about time now because those small pins have grown out and there are no new pins forming.  I will probably harvest them tonight or tomorrow and dunk it.

Here is a pic of those small pins that will be the 3rd harvest from the 1st flush.  Also check out the PE cake.  This thing exploded over 2-3 days and it still seems to be growing.  I am having a tough time figuring out when I need to harvest these and was just planning on waiting until no more growth was seen.  I think it has to be close as I have read with PE the first harvest is usually small and all mutated. 





Umm my PE has a urethra? lol



Here are some other cakes from the big FC.

Bottom L on its 2nd flush, the rest on the first.









There you have it! 

If anyone has any advice about that PE cake and if it looks ready let me know.  I am thinking the smaller ones on top may still get a little bigger.  The smaller one along the side grew considerably in the past 24 hours.


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Re: UPDATE with a funky looking PE! 12/12 [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19265082 - 12/12/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dat mushroom in third pic :crazy2:
:mushroom2:I bet that's gonna be a crazy trip.  Please post when you weight that bitch!

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    #19265282 - 12/12/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looking good bro!!

That second pic, the one with the long thin stems and small caps....is that just the type of cube, or is that a result of some sort of stress during the grow?  Sorry for the noob question...


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Re: UPDATE with a funky looking PE! 12/12 [Re: cronicr]
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Quote:

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Looking good bro!!

That second pic, the one with the long thin stems and small caps....is that just the type of cube, or is that a result of some sort of stress during the grow?  Sorry for the noob question...



Result of Multispore genetics from a bought spore syringe.




^^^What he said^^^

That and I think that cake is probably getting pretty dry.  If you look close in the 1st pic in the post above you will see some really skinny pins in certain spots.  I had left those on the cake after harvesting it 2 separate times without any dunks.  They are still skinny but grew out longer then I thought they would in only a couple days.  Just goes to show you don't HAVE to pick the cake completely clean just because some of them have matured.  That was something I had read a lot of conflicting info about. 

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Dat mushroom in third pic :crazy2:
:mushroom2:I bet that's gonna be a crazy trip.  Please post when you weight that bitch!

Lookin real good!




Thanks for the support and I can't wait!  :grin: It is so hard to let it just sit without munchin down or pulling it off so I can weight it.


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    #19272514 - 12/13/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So last night I get home after a 9 hour shift.  This is longer then I would like to leave these completely unattended but I had no choice.  They seemed fine when I got home and here is where they were at.  I harvested the cake with the skinny stems so it is ready for its 2nd dunk.  Only 12.3g wet but I am pretty happy with the total of the 1st flush.

I have noticed my smaller FC seems to perform better.  These were the cakes I thought were contaminated but the more I do this the more I am realizing it is just the mush smell.  I actually don't mind the smell now and after birthing a bunch of cakes tonight and taking care of these others for the past month I am pretty confident it wasn't a negative/bad smell as I initially thought. 

After cleaning that cake I turned my attention to the PE cake.  The big one from the last update started to have bluing around the edge of the cap and there was no growth from when I checked in the morning.  I took this as the sign to harvest before it was too late and picked it off.  Check it out...







Bluing after just a minute or 2 after touching it. (sorry they are blurry)





AND THE TOTAL



Here it is after drying for 24 hours or so.





The others I left on there.  They seem to have obvious growth so I figured I would wait it out.



I have seen much more impressive weight on here in other posts but I was pretty happy.  So, in celebration of my now biggest shroom...

My previous biggest (1.3g,dry) and a few skinny friends...





Had a great time.  Nothing crazy, very mellow.  I took this cool pic, at least I thought. I was nervous about posting it for some reason but felt I had to share it since it features the shroomery.  So to comfort myself I made it small, haha.  The text was pretty fun to watch.  Didn't post or anything just watched the screen :mushroom2:



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    #19304306 - 12/20/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So a lot of exciting stuff has happened over the past week or so.  First off, I have learned a TON.  I won't go into it too much because I feel like I could write a full novel about my experiences but the shroomies have taught me SOOOO much.  I have always looked at tripping as a fun learning experience and I must say they haven't let me down.  I have been struggling with my recreational use of different things for a while and a lot of these issues were thrown in my face during my first trip alone.  I had previously always done stuff like this with my girl or with friends when I was younger and partying more.  I dissected my whole life, my relationship, and everything else.  I was able to make decisions about things that I think I have pushed to the back of my mind to avoid dealing with.  Why focus all my energy on my next fun experience when I could focus on making myself better, focus on loving my girl and just being happy.  I have never been so positive, not letting the negative stuff in my daily life get me down.  Why waste that precious time...I'm only going to be here for so long...

Anyway, enough of that.  Here is some updates...

I am running low on spore solution and the LC I made previously isn't working out.  So what better time to try and collect my first spore print!

Here is a PE cake I had with caps that really opened up.  The cake was harvested a day ago but I left this big guy since I chose him for my print. 

Here he is today, ready to drop some spores. 


Removed and in my printing chamber.


Since my last update a lot of cakes have been birthed and put into the FC.  I must say my cakes are looking much happier with the added company.  Other observations I have made are about the invitro pinning.  The cakes I have left consolidate to the point of pinning exploded much faster in the FC then those that were only left 1 week.  It was hard to let them get to this point originally because I had an empty FC and was anxious to get them in there.  Now that it is full I find the colonizing process a lot easier.  This is really because I don't focus on them as much and my FC gets my attention so the jars just chill, colonizing completely undisturbed.  Before I counted down the days to pull them out of jars and birth.  Now I don't really keep track and just let them sit for as long as possible. 

Here is the large FC at this moment.  My smaller one has 2 cakes in it that have been dunked.  They aren't pinning or showing signs of a 2nd flush so why waste the server space with pics?



Ummm....pin porn anyone??  This is a PE cake.


Treasure coast cake.  The one sticking out was an invitro pin.


Albino cake.  The invitro pin on this one is still hugging up against the cake.


PE cake with some good looking pins/fruits along with some blobs and mutants which I find pretty cool.


Siamese PE twins.





Here are some jars colonized. Still waiting for birth.  Already over a week into consolidation but they will probably
sit a week or 2 more.  Just until I feel like it lol.


Other then that I prepped 7 more jars this morning and will probably knock them up tonight.

This is still proving to be a very fun hobby to me. It was originally tough to live with these shrooms as I swear they are begging to be eaten.  BUT as I mentioned in the first paragraph I am past that point.  I am having fun growing them and continue to do so.  My idea is to end up with a stock pile that I can reach into every few months when the time feels right :mushroom2::thumbup:.


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    #19304392 - 12/20/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19304413 - 12/20/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You have no idea how happy I get with the support and congrats I receive from you guys.

Most people in the world suck.

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    #19305384 - 12/20/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: 12/20 update, PIN PORN, MUTANTS AND MORE! [Re: Ultron]
    #19305785 - 12/21/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wow. Some nice flushing there!  Your single mushrooms are outweighing full cake flushes of my Colombian rust spore. My first cake only flushed 30 wet down to about 2g dry.  Got a few others running and excited to see and try the variations.  Keep up the good work!


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    #19305832 - 12/21/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looks good:thumbup:


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Re: 12/20 update, PIN PORN, MUTANTS AND MORE! [Re: vikingsc]
    #19308780 - 12/21/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks guys! 

These cakes exploded today and grew a lot.  I was gone most of the day so I wasn't checking on them very much so the growth was super obvious. The PE cake under PIN PORN in the last post looks awesome.

What do you guys think? Do you want another pic update or wait until it is harvest time in a day or 2? Ill prob take some either way when I fan in a minute.


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:popcorn:


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    #19308835 - 12/21/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nobody ever complains about too many pics :laugh:


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Re: 12/20 update, PIN PORN, MUTANTS AND MORE! [Re: vikingsc]
    #19308888 - 12/21/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nobody ever complains about too many pics :laugh:




Well in that case, here you go!  So far my spore print isn't working out so well.  The gills are super dark blue/black but none are dropping onto the foil.  1down5up I think I followed the same tek as you, how long did you let it sit to get that dark print?  I though 24 hours would be enough to see something but the foil is totally clean.

Anyway check these babies out!

BAM


PE cake with mutants



Albinos getting longer


Some invitro pinning on albino jars.  I guess I should prob birth these soon. 




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    #19317807 - 12/23/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When I was first starting out I was seeing a lot of people only try 1 strain at a time but it has been cool to watch a few different ones grow all together.  Its easier to compare progress and all that.  While it seems as most have said, "cubes are cubes" there are 3 completely different looks.  I knew this by reading but it is cool to see them all together.  Cambodians, Treasure Coast grew out the same. Skinnier stems, wide flat caps.  PE really thick stems, lots of mutants. And albinos....white/blue obviously.


The treasure coast was first.  This was crazy to  harvest for me.  I have been doing the twist and pull method most of the time.  Occasionally for a really anchored one I would pull out the scalpel. I lifted the cake out so I didn't make a mess and could get better light.  Lifted it up when that huge cluster just broke off.  It was actually pretty cool :cool:





The rest of the cake next to the broken off group.


Really not an accurate weight but giving you an idea.


I broke it up later and weighed it...

All together...


On to the PE


Cool looking gills.




Bruised cake.


Conjoined blobs.





This whole cake.


Both cakes together, ready to dry.  In the upper middle are some already drying from a previous harvest.



Total was just over 160 wet.  I will check it again in a day or so when they are dried. 

The albinos are ready to be picked off tonight.  Not a ton growing off the cake but the ones that are there are pretty big.  The caps have opened up and have a dimple on top.  The blue discoloration on the white looks really nice.:mushroom2:  Pics later:thumbup:


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    #19317831 - 12/23/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fucking rights! Great job....great job


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Fucking rights! Great job....great job





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    #19317979 - 12/23/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Fucking rights! Great job....great job





Thanks man! Its been a fun journey!:thumbup:




wait until your trip :smile:


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Re: 12/23, harvested 2 cakes, mutants, PIC UPDATE [Re: twistedty]
    #19318057 - 12/23/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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wait until your trip :smile:





Yeah I can't wait.  Every trip is a new experience and even though I know it is all the same chemical each shroom seems a bit different :smirk:

I just pulled off the albinos.  They are so meaty feeling.  (insert she said joke here)


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    #19318354 - 12/23/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Okay 1 more update.  I won't have time tomorrow so I figured I would go ahead and throw these up there.  Plus spores were starting to drop so I needed to get them out of there.

The ALBINO CAKE.....





The biggest 2.  These were joined at the base.





A smaller 1. Prob around peak potency with the veil just barely cracking.  Perfect timing to go with the rest of them.



The whole lot.  I took this with the flash on.  It kinda changes the color but shows the contours and shape better...


The biggest, so pretty.


Holy gills batman!


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    #19318386 - 12/23/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Take lots of prints....send me one lol


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    #19318643 - 12/23/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

nice job :rockon:


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    #19319083 - 12/23/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Take lots of prints....send me one lol




Yo cronicr if ya want an AA+ print just :pm: me, I just took a few, nice and fresh :thumbup:

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Re: 12/23, 1 more update, ALBINO A+! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19319736 - 12/24/13 05:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Crusher job Sarge!!!  Looks like you got'er all figured out man.

as for the spore print, i just let it sit for 24 hours on a piece of tinfoil in a half pint mason (short fat one) with the tin lid loose and off to the side with some tinfoil loosely placed on top.  The cap was open for about a day, and i'd say the veil was broke for two.  It still had a slightly conical shape to it, and wasn't open so much that it looked flat or anything....hope that helps bro...Good Luck man!


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    #19352245 - 12/31/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

:waits:


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    #19352309 - 12/31/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

HAHA alright cronicr, here you go!

Its been a while since an update and I have been super busy so sorry for the wait!  I have some other pics on another camera of some major pinning and stuff that was taken before these but I will have to upload those later.  For the meantime, here is where I'm at.

The whole tub.  It is about time for a clean since I accidentally left a few cakes too long which started dropping spores.  Not too huge of a deal but my perlite is looking a bit messy and the arrangement of my cakes is a little random at the moment. 

This guy was harvested a last week.  The cap was totally inverted and looked really cool IMO.





Cluster of albinos


The full big tub currently.  My smaller tub has 1 cake in it that was starting to show signs of trich. 


This cake is ready for harvest tonight.  In terms of size no giant shrooms but I have found out that I am yielding about the same amount.  Whether it be in 3 big shrooms or 25 smaller ones.





The pins on that cake were crazy and all over the place.  I gave it a lot of care and luckily most of them matured.

Here is a couple albino cakes doing their thing...




This bad boy was an invitro pin.  I left it on during the dunk and it has since grown quite a bit.  I am still debating what to do with this one.  No other pins really on it yet just this big shroom glued to the cake.



Here is what I got as of now separated by obvious strain differences.  There are some missing from the pic which have...ummm.......disappeared over time lol.  The albinos are pretty cool to me, they turn bright blue after drying!



In addition to that here are some still drying.


Finally, my first successful print off an albino...WOOHOO!


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Re: 12/31, UPDATE w/PICS, Pins, harvest, lots of stuff [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19352334 - 12/31/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

:woot: fucking rocking that shit pepper! way to go! hope 2014 turns into a cult dream for ya bro! oh and
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Re: 12/31, UPDATE w/PICS, Pins, harvest, lots of stuff [Re: cronicr]
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  I have some other pics on another camera of some major pinning and stuff that was taken before these but I will have to upload those later. 



:waits:





Haha your awesome dude. I FEEL THE WATCHING EYE OF CRONICR WAITING FOR MY PICS :shocked:!!!  I CANT HANDLE THE PRESSURE!!


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Re: 12/31, UPDATE w/PICS, Pins, harvest, lots of stuff [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19352423 - 12/31/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

i'm gonna chow down on some fruits tonight:headbang3:


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Re: 12/31, UPDATE w/PICS, Pins, harvest, lots of stuff [Re: cronicr]
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i'm gonna chow down on some fruits tonight:headbang3:





That sounds like a good idea :thumbup::mushroom2:

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Re: 12/31, UPDATE w/PICS, Pins, harvest, lots of stuff [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19353952 - 01/01/14 08:17 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Ill post some pics in a little bit but for the meantime here is a weight update.

121g wet :shocked:

So far my average per cake is around 6-8g dry.  Pretty cool to see almost a whole half oz come off 1 cake.  Haven't harvested any more albinos yet.  Those will prob be ready tomorrow.


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1/2/14, harvest update (120wet off 1 cake) plus albinos ready for picking! [Re: 1down5up]
    #19359247 - 01/02/14 03:51 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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crusher job man!




Thanks for the support man! Its cool to have another guy on here that started around the same time as I did.  I'm guessing you are starting to think bulk now?




UPDATE TIME!! Here is that crazy cake that gave me slightly over 120 wet. 





All picked and separated...



Here are the albinos going well.  The 2 on the right will probably be harvested later tonight.  Bottom right one for sure.  The other left 2 are taking a little longer and I will probably pick them tomorrow or this weekend.



Some close ups.



The biggest cap.









I love the variety.  1 cake will have a giant and the others right next to it will have a TON of smaller fruits.  Some perfectly white all the way until harvest.  Some turn blue pretty fast.  Others more of a cream off white color. 

All in all I am still having a lot of fun with this.  Not only am I creating more of something I love, I have gained a new skill.  Something about that is very fulfilling. 

I can't send my love out to the shroomery enough.  Without you guys and the posts you have put out there over the years there is NO WAY I could have made it this far with success. 

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    #19359276 - 01/02/14 03:56 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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All picked and separated...



Here are the albinos going well.  The 2 on the right will probably be harvested later tonight.  Bottom right one for sure.  The other left 2 are taking a little longer and I will probably pick them tomorrow or this weekend.



Some close ups.



The biggest cap.








!  :cool::thumbup:



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Thanks dude! :thumbup:

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no just show your dr, he'll understand:thumbup:


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Re: 1/2/14, harvest update (120wet off 1 cake) plus albinos ready for picking! [Re: cronicr]
    #19371661 - 01/05/14 07:38 AM (10 years, 26 days ago)

The fruiting growth always surprises me too man...i love it..and yeah, i'm def going bulk very soon.  Got some cakes taht colonized really quick, gonna clone and print as much as i can and use them for bulk.  Picked up my 18kg bag of WBS last night.  Have everything else i need...now just have to wait.  My GF just shakes her head and laughs every time i pick up new stuff:grin:

Dude, you're doing a bang up job...you're puttin' an awful lot of pressure on me:wink:


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1/7/14, update albinos harvested! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19383715 - 01/07/14 05:02 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

UPDATE TIME!

So I have lost track a little bit on the timeline of these pics.  I harvested 2 cakes together and then the cake with the big one I was anxious about.  I will update with more pics and a timeline later when I'm not as drunk haha.  I also made this great tea the other day that was...well...great..:thumbup:

So here's some pics.  All Albinos...

Good looking fruits growing up..


Cake ready for harvest...




Here is two albino cakes after harvested together.



Cool fruits..










Here is the cake with the largest fruit...




Drying out..


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Re: 1/7/14, update albinos harvested! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19384075 - 01/07/14 05:56 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

very impressive bro :congrats:


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Re: 1/7/14, update albinos harvested! [Re: tripdawg420]
    #19384485 - 01/07/14 07:13 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Fuck man...that one albino looks almost as big as the cake...what's that one weigh in at?


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Re: 1/7/14, update albinos harvested! [Re: 1down5up]
    #19385283 - 01/07/14 09:42 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

Well I must say your first grow blew mine away!  Great job.  You had single fruits bigger than entire 6 cake flushes of mine.  Hopefully I am getting better stuff on agar now.


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Re: 1/7/14, update albinos harvested! [Re: BigGreenMat]
    #19390561 - 01/08/14 08:49 PM (10 years, 22 days ago)

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very impressive bro :congrats:





Appreciate it man! :thumbup:

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Fuck man...that one albino looks almost as big as the cake...what's that one weigh in at?




2.8 dry after splitting it and taking a couple samples for LC.  I thought it was going to end up being more but looks seem to be deceiving.  Its funny how now that I am seeing the whole process I am realizing how many improperly grown and dried fruits I have been given over the years.  I swear I dry them out WAAAAAY more, I guess that is to be expected when you are in the hobby for personal stuff vs profit.

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Well I must say your first grow blew mine away!  Great job.  You had single fruits bigger than entire 6 cake flushes of mine.  Hopefully I am getting better stuff on agar now.




Thanks for the complements.  I seemed to get pretty lucky on my first go at it.  All I can suggest is to read as much as you can.  Read as many teks about the same process as you can then read some more.  I simply did what was suggested on here by a lot of different people and it worked out. 

Can't wait to see where agar takes you!


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Re: 1/7/14, update albinos harvested! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19393792 - 01/09/14 01:49 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Did you try that honey tek man?  Worked aces for me.  Still got some growing on my dresser with nothing more than a piece of tinfoil over a hole in the top.
Cronicr turned me onto a BRF agar sub that works great man and is super easy.  I used one drop of my LC on them and 24 hrs later i saw myc growth.  It's still looking good on 7 of the 8 BRF agar substitutes.....heres a link man, in case you're wondering.

http://www.shroomery.org/8514/Agar-substitute

only thing i would recommend is not use glass jars...not with any designs on them.  I used little pp5 containers and they're great...can see right through them.

Great pinset on that albino man...hope you cloned that one!


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Re: 1/7/14, update albinos harvested! [Re: 1down5up]
    #19394182 - 01/09/14 03:20 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Your a beast! Congrats on a successfull grow!


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Re: 1/7/14, update albinos harvested! [Re: tripmob]
    #19394321 - 01/09/14 03:48 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

some beauties, rated :wizard:


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Re: 1/7/14, update albinos harvested! [Re: twistedty]
    #19395631 - 01/09/14 07:50 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Did you try that honey tek man?  Worked aces for me.  Still got some growing on my dresser with nothing more than a piece of tinfoil over a hole in the top.
Cronicr turned me onto a BRF agar sub that works great man and is super easy.  I used one drop of my LC on them and 24 hrs later i saw myc growth.  It's still looking good on 7 of the 8 BRF agar substitutes.....heres a link man, in case you're wondering.

http://www.shroomery.org/8514/Agar-substitute

only thing i would recommend is not use glass jars...not with any designs on them.  I used little pp5 containers and they're great...can see right through them.

Great pinset on that albino man...hope you cloned that one!




Honey tek seems to be working out ok.  I have been trying to leave it alone so it can do its thing but I checked on it today.  About a dime sized thick area of white floating at the top of the jar.  I assume this is myc but it has a thicker more solid appearance then I was expecting.  I will have to post some pics later to get every ones opinion on how it's looking.

I have been using a lot of plastics in different parts of the process too.  It seems to work out as a pretty good alternative to glass. 

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Your a beast! Congrats on a successfull grow!




Thanks for the kind words man!

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some beauties, rated :wizard:




Appreciate it dude:thumbup:! Especially from someone with so much experience...I just checked out your gallery :ooo:  Someday I hope to open a tub and see canopies like that!


Next job for me is cleaning out my little FC.  I have been isolating possible contaminated cakes in there and growing them out a little.  My first 2 suspected contams were not contams at all just my novice nose.  Those grew out great in the little FC and it actually may have better conditions then the big FC just because it is so small.  A week or so ago I had a cake that I thought was being taken over by trich.  No green just the fluffy white growth over the verm/myc.  Glad I moved it because a few days later it turned green.  Had a similar experience with another cake so at least I know I can ID contams pretty well.  I wasn't even inspecting the cakes just the standard open up mist/fan when the starting signs of trich grabbed my eye.

Unfortunately now that FC is contaminated and I have no place to put this other cake im worried about.  It doesn't look like trich.  Almost has a beige/tan color.  I just don't want to trash it yet because it has pins on it with some smaller sized fruits that seem to be growing.  And the small FC sterilization begins....


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1/18/14,more albinos! MUTANT FRUITS! LOTS OF PICS! [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
    #19436967 - 01/18/14 09:26 AM (10 years, 12 days ago)

So it has been a while since I updated this thing so hopefully none of these are repeats.  I am coming to the end of what I would consider my first grow.  I have some cakes colonizing but figured this was kind of an end point since I am preparing to empty out the FC and give it a good clean, buy new perlite etc. 

I have noticed I am losing cakes to trich pretty regularly now.  I contribute this to 2 things, 1 my FC is now contaminated with trich and 2 my cakes are starting to finish out there flushes.  I don't think it is anything I have done wrong just cakes finishing up their last flush and not being able to produce any more...so they sit and contam.  All have been pretty obvious trich, big fluffy white growing over the cake and then turning green a few days later.  There is only 1 or 2 cakes that have a contam that may be different but I still think it may be trich.  See pic below.  Much more spotted growth as opposed to one large section like my others have shown.  Still has some pins on it so I am leaving it to see what happens!



I am actually going on vacation soon so I think this is a good time to call it quits on this first grow.  I will be leaving some cakes in the FC but will not be here to adjust the light schedule, mist/fan etc.  I figure I may still get a few small fruits or they will all contam while I am gone.

Here are my most recent harvests.  Got some pretty big fruits off these 2.  1 cake produced this pretty cool mutant looking fruit.  Large cap that actually grew around the cap of a smaller fruit, pretty cool.

Here is the cake with the mutant, see right side of cake.




You can kind of see the cap from another fruit disappearing into the first. 

More close ups










You can see there are 2 growing together and 1 off to the side in those pics.  I removed the side one and weighed the 2 combined together.

Just over 45g wet! Woohoo!

Full harvest from that cake.


Another cake harvested at the same time.






Next to cake for size comparison of cap.



Full harvest from that one.


A couple biguns drying out together.


So far got a couple oz dried saved up.  I will have to weigh everything out and tally up how many cakes I went through after this is all done.


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