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possible psilocybe
    #19059655 - 10/30/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

found these mushrooms at the back of a cow field in bedding for cows wood chips huge pile. the have a slight veil around the stem that makes a blue ring and will bruise blue on the cap slightly and usually at the bottom. purple spore print ( purple staining on lower mushrooms in the group and on the paper towel) didn't take an actual spore print. found in fraser valley. thin mucus membrain when peeled.there was alot in one general area seemed to love the blackberrie bushes. i think they are cyanescens but unsure.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19059700 - 10/30/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Those are cyans if I ever seen em. Way to go! Wait for a TI to confirm though.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: perkysmiles]
    #19059723 - 10/30/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sad patch destruction. But yes you did find a psilocybe.

Make sure they all bruise blue and have purple prints.

Sad, sad patch destruction.....


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: perkysmiles]
    #19059733 - 10/30/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They do look like a Psilocybe species, kind of seems like Psilocybe stuntzii.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19059746 - 10/30/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think they're Cyans though...Cyans don't have that ring around the stipe.  I am also not a TI but I would lean more towards P. stunzii too


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19059773 - 10/30/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

they all had the same characteristics and yeah it was sad but so friggin hard to not disturb the clumps, tried a razor knife but it was slow. fyi i re burried the clumps lol. what other mushrooms might grow with them?


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: perkysmiles]
    #19059779 - 10/30/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ti??


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: 3D Shroom Porn]
    #19059792 - 10/30/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't think they're Cyans though...Cyans don't have that ring around the stipe.  I am also not a TI but I would lean more towards P. stunzii too



Good point! I don't know why I didn't think about the annulus. Cyans don't have that. TI= Trusted Identifier


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19059798 - 10/30/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Those certainly are not cyanescens, but they sure seem to be a bluing psilocybe.

Are you in the pacific states? P. stuntzii seems likely unless you're in the midwest.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: perkysmiles]
    #19059801 - 10/30/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:rockon:DUUUUUUUUDE!  Unless they're P. stuntzii, I'd vouch for P. fimetaria!  Get those to a doctor!


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: perkysmiles]
    #19059807 - 10/30/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you look at the person who has replied/quoted at the bottom of the box a select few will have Trusted Identifier under this thread.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: canid]
    #19059808 - 10/30/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think he's in BC: "fraser valley"...


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: Coen]
    #19059811 - 10/30/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cool find, btw.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: Coen]
    #19059813 - 10/30/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I think he's in BC: "fraser valley"...




I missed that.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: jet li]
    #19059817 - 10/30/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Pins, mycelium... respect the environment man...


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19059852 - 10/30/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This one is a bit odd looking...


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: jet li]
    #19059866 - 10/30/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This one is a bit odd looking...




Yes, it is. I don't think that one's a Psilocybe at all, and all specimens should be inspected.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: canid]
    #19059891 - 10/30/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nice finds!!:highfive: i would suggest taking the time to cut each one with scissors next time u find some so the patch will come back next time its supposed to fruit :wink: nice haul tho!


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: jet li]
    #19059900 - 10/30/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i avoided the ones with a brown stem most had a white stem and didnt seem to blue very fast, they all looked alike, wavy caps unless the sun got them first and yeah right by the fraser river in b.c fraser valley. noine looked like any galina that i researched lol im only used to finding liberty caps so these where alien to me.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19059933 - 10/30/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ill return on the weekend and gather more information but all of them looked like the wet one i was holding, same gills cap structure everything


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19059954 - 10/30/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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These I suspect to be P. stuntzii.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19060035 - 10/30/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ill return on the weekend and gather more information but all of them looked like the wet one i was holding, same gills cap structure everything




You should put sawdust and wood chips in the spots that you pulled up.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: Ganzig]
    #19060065 - 10/30/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: xfsketch]
    #19060105 - 10/30/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it was a giant pile of woodchips lol any other mushrooms that would grow with them that would kill me? looked at all the dry ones nervously to see a sighn of blue.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19060283 - 10/30/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You should use that bag of mycelium to build a new patch.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ZippyHippyinWA]
    #19060318 - 10/30/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The stems are too large for stuntzii i think.

My thought was Ovoids. but i guess they could be stuntzii too.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: Joust]
    #19060640 - 10/30/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Any other information i can give to nail it??


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19060645 - 10/30/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ipeefreely said:any other mushrooms that would grow with them that would kill me?




I'm not doubting that you have a Psilocybe (looks like the photos of Stuntzii to me, noobishness notwithstanding) in that pic Jet-Li mentioned, but Galerinas can look a hell of a lot like cyans (check out Joust's photos on the PNW Actives 2013 thread) so I'd make sure to make sure that any anybody might ingest have a purple-black spore print.  Just sayin'


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: Coen]
    #19060687 - 10/30/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Galerinas can look a heck of a lot like any of the woodloving Psilocybes. I'm half convinced that they were intelligently designed to make us pay more attention.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: canid]
    #19060713 - 10/30/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Galerinas can look a heck of a lot like any of the woodloving Psilocybes. I'm half convinced that they were intelligently designed to make us pay more attention.



Makes great sense this statement!


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19060749 - 10/30/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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looked at all the dry ones nervously to see a sighn of blue.




I was nearly in a panic the first time I found some. Checking every 5 freakin minutes to see if they matched the description in the book.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: Ganzig]
    #19060793 - 10/30/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ipeefreely said:
looked at all the dry ones nervously to see a sighn of blue.




I was nearly in a panic the first time I found some. Checking every 5 freakin minutes to see if they matched the description in the book.




me too.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: canid]
    #19060835 - 10/30/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

We should create an official "Deadly Galerina / Active Psilocybe -- You Guess!" thread.  Might be interesting and informative...


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: Coen]
    #19060844 - 10/30/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Coen said:
We should create an official "Deadly Galerina / Active Psilocybe -- You Guess!" thread.  Might be interesting and informative...



Quote:

Coen said:
We should create an official "Deadly Galerina / Active Psilocybe -- You Guess!" thread.  Might be interesting and informative...



Quote:

Coen said:
We should create an official "Deadly Galerina / Active Psilocybe -- You Guess!" thread.  Might be interesting and informative...



Cool Idea! My guesses would always be deadly lol.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: canid]
    #19060854 - 10/30/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My first thoughts when i seen them was can't be, seen alot in lawns and similar cow pastures but not like these. They are pretty beafy compared to liberty caps (the only ones i know and have picked alot) the galinas do.look similar except for the brown stem and rusty brown gills, they don't really look like stunzii to me either just had a gut feeling they where magical haha.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: xfsketch]
    #19060864 - 10/30/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was sorta secretly predicting there would be more mycena, boletes and fingernail polish shrooms than anything else.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: Ganzig]
    #19060897 - 10/30/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sad, sad patch destruction.....





Oh my, maybe the worse I've seen. I'm usually pretty nice to people about that kinda thing too.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: canid]
    #19061127 - 10/30/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Galerinas can look a heck of a lot like any of the woodloving Psilocybes. I'm half convinced that they were intelligently designed to make us pay more attention.



Well, they do belong to the same family after all, both Psilocybe and Galerina belong in the Hymenogastraceae.

Here's a nice example I found a few weeks ago.


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: inski]
    #19061205 - 10/30/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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Galerinas can look a heck of a lot like any of the woodloving Psilocybes. I'm half convinced that they were intelligently designed to make us pay more attention.



Well, they do belong to the same family after all, both Psilocybe and Galerina belong in the Hymenogastraceae.

Here's a nice example I found a few weeks ago.





I would not ever touch those lol


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: ipeefreely]
    #19061215 - 10/31/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I love your shots inski, do you have a place you post them all?


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: Joust]
    #19061235 - 10/31/13 12:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Joust,
Your's are great too, all or should I say most of the ones you see here I have only posted here, many of my older collections are at MO.

I have hundreds that I have not posted anywhere!


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: inski]
    #19061328 - 10/31/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks Joust,
Your's are great too, all or should I say most of the ones you see here I have only posted here, many of my older collections are at MO.

I have hundreds that I have not posted anywhere!



Wow thanks, i hadnt really gotten your thoughts on my photos, feel free to check out my hunting thread if you havent already, id love to get some tips from you. Those shots you take are ungodly.'


and this

"I have hundreds that I have not posted anywhere!"
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You should :shrug:


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Re: possible psilocybe [Re: Joust]
    #19061567 - 10/31/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wish I had batteries in the camera yesterday, because when I was checking on those pellis, there were thousands of galerinas growing with them, which from what I have read is normal.  The thing is I saw a couple clusters in which the bases were touching.  I could not for sure tell the difference between the pins.  Same two colors one their hygrophanous pileus(plural?), same stipe color, same size.  Very slight blueing (I usually do not see blueing besides on the annulus in stuntzii in the field either), thickness and color of the annulus and how easily the pellicle was separated were the only unsure features I could check in the field.  I did keep the pins of either in the places of their close contact, but I hope that some noobs don't catch wind of that patch, because of it's location.  Very public area with a lot of active mushroom hunters walking by everyday, many of them mycology students, who if they say the wrong thing to the wrong person someone excited person could very well die.  Sorry to get off topic.


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