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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: plummerblue]
#25927568 - 04/10/19 07:46 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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If they haven't been already, growkits should be added to the known contaminants list. I heard from a friend that somebody died from the growkit contam that mutated and became communicable to humans. Also, growkit contams made my dangly bits shrivel up and fall off. Sucks. I wonder if the cavity in my crotchetal area left over is a good micro environment to grow myc in? I really would be cultivating pubes if I got some PE to fruit. Growkits really make ya think.
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: nulls]
#25950841 - 04/23/19 12:51 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok so yes im the idiot that just got a kit haven't started anything yet tho. I got the kit then started researching and now feel so stupid after reading post after post of how they suck. but what do I do now? I still have my syringe and all of the bs from the ultimate kit im gonna keep researching but with what I have can I still be successful? or do I need to go out and buy more stuff? I hear the midwest jars are still good...gosh I just wanna kick my own ass. Can someone help me and be my mycology guru.. Im not going to do anything until im positive and sure I know wtf im doing. any and all help is welcome.
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: SpitballJedi]
#26106412 - 07/13/19 05:22 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fuck yeah spitball! Just saw this for the first time!    Love your thinking!
I know it's 81 days since anyone's posted here, but I'm thinking it's good to see at the top again. And lately i feel it's pretty relevant.
Maybe there should be a kit- growers forum for the kit inclined people...? Just to keep it out of actual cultivation.
Anyhow thanks brother!
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: nulls]
#26106439 - 07/13/19 05:45 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: foxyjohn]
#26106617 - 07/13/19 07:33 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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foxyjohn said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26106226
MY grow from a kit!
It’s pretty unimpressive but at least you got a flush. Learn to DIY and aim to pull something like this:
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#26153960 - 08/26/19 04:06 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: 13shrooms]
#26358987 - 12/03/19 12:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol thanks to this thread I canceled my grow kit order and am going to try Frank's monotub tek for my first grow.
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: SpitballJedi]
#26526334 - 03/09/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Grow kits suck because:
1. their over-priced to hell 2. you really don't know if the manufacturer properly setup and sterilized the substrate with enough moisture ect, so if it fails it literally might not even be your fault.
I'm actually growing in a grow kit right now, I regret it, but its colonizing.. so fingers crossed. Never buying one again though and im just going to do it myself (PF-Tek, SGFC) next time.
WISH I DID THE RESEARCH SOONER.
oh well, at least grow kits made me realize how exciting growing mushies is. this is definitely something i want to get better at.
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: TheDuckMan]
#26572606 - 04/02/20 05:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm definitely not going to argue that grow kits are definitely a cop out. However a couple family members were sick of hearing me talk about it and pooled together to get a "mega monster kit" online. Apart from spending an arm and a leg for dirt, straw and what I now am pretty sure was illegal, 2lbs of rye berry spawn. After reading through the instructions I was hung up on some wording so hopped on the interwebs and found this gem of a site. I'm pretty sure this community saved my ass. The instructions called for sterilized sub, sterile casing and ambient temps of 30-32°C. Anyways long story short thanks to the fine brains compiled here I was able to harvest over 100g wet my first flush. Before anyone let's me have it I know the err in my ways and shall be starting from scratch next go round. Also apologies for bumping a 6yr old thread but I hade my monologue typed before I thought to date the forum. But that's enough rambling, see y'all later!
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: hempee420]
#26661240 - 05/10/20 12:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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hempee420 said: I'm definitely not going to argue that grow kits are definitely a cop out. However a couple family members were sick of hearing me talk about it and pooled together to get a "mega monster kit" online. Apart from spending an arm and a leg for dirt, straw and what I now am pretty sure was illegal, 2lbs of rye berry spawn. After reading through the instructions I was hung up on some wording so hopped on the interwebs and found this gem of a site. I'm pretty sure this community saved my ass. The instructions called for sterilized sub, sterile casing and ambient temps of 30-32°C. Anyways long story short thanks to the fine brains compiled here I was able to harvest over 100g wet my first flush. Before anyone let's me have it I know the err in my ways and shall be starting from scratch next go round. Also apologies for bumping a 6yr old thread but I hade my monologue typed before I thought to date the forum. But that's enough rambling, see y'all later!
Yeah I will also admit to buying a kit before I found this site. I was just at the beginning of my quarantine so it seemed like a good idea.
Not that I am expecting quick results. Just starting the process.
Lots of great info here!
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: PotDaddy]
#26727028 - 06/07/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have read through this whole thread (it's not easy with some that are hundreds of sites long; is the lifespan of one human creature long enough to read everything here on shroomery?). I have startet with a kit too. The excitement was there. These living organisms and so forth and so on. I got ~150 g wet from 3 flushes and every flush was interesting. Took some prints. I think I learned. These organisms live(d) in my house. I read and the process of thinking was activatet. Maybe its only about the fanning and misting, but every time I did something, I asked me why, which consquences and so on. Ah, these idea I had while reading: with the heating mats, they offer something which has to do with catalyst. They may bring more negative effects due to the inappropriate heat, but one recognizes this fast. Yeah, then another thought is this: the last kit operation that one can see in this thread is quite wow for me. I find beauty in less mass, one shroom is one shroom. Mh.^^ And post.
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: Putrema]
#27087251 - 12/13/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I read this thread when I started browsing the forum and I bought a grow kit anyway. With the heap of knowledge to discover (vocabulary, PF/bulk, SGFC/monotub, agar recipes, pressure cooking, SAB, ...) I wanted a shortcut and see if I could already at least manage the last step of the process. I also got a spore syringe to learn the first steps in parallel.
Results: the grow kit gave a massive pin set which mostly aborted, it gave 2 meager flushes for a total of 40g wet. No fruitbody sporulated and I was pretty disappointed by the result, but I cloned the biggest fruits of the harvest on agar which I then transfered to grain then G2G then bulk. I had my first bulk flush yesterday for ~200g wet and there's no way I'll ever buy another grow kit. Looking back I believe my grow kit failed mostly because of the poor humidity/air exchange of the grow bag. But it seems it had strong genetics.
In conclusion I believe a grow kit is money badly spent, but it can be a nice first step into the hobby. Going from spore to flush is a looong walk in the dark with many parameters to discover.
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: Kento]
#27116065 - 12/30/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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This hits home for me... about 1 1/2 -2 years ago I became good friends with some one who is an experienced grower. Any who long story short I displayed an interest, so he gave me a few colonized jars and said get some coco fiber take this tote, and mix it together and leave it at room temperature... well I got a lot of contamination 99% of the time until he switched to spawn bags... then all I did was wait and fruit.. after a good run he just stopped for a while... but my desire to grow didn’t.... I eventually kept asking and asking and he told me how to PC wbs... so after months of making contaminated seed I finally started to catch on. Then he explained how he uses agar to inoculate the jars. So I began taking plates home and started knocking these jars up... one day he showed me how to clean cultures and I fell in love. I began doing transfers 24/7... I had him make me 50 plates I paid for and probably went through all of em in a week or less. We had a falling out and I had 3 fucking plates left!! Obviously in a bind I took to shroomery and searched and searched, and went out and bought supplies and began making my own agar..... ANYWAY a buddy of mine expressed great interest in learning what I was leaning.( we even bought our PC together lol) he had women issues though so he kind of did his own thing, which wound up being getting a kit!! So when I’m talking to him about one of my first start to finish grows and he very casually mentions his kit was producing, he said yea man growing is sweet... and unfortunately I had to tell him that what he was doing is not growing.... the best way to do it is to learn from experience and let the people left standing after failing a million times be the true proud growers, not just some guy who gets to harvest something first try thanks to a kit.... OK I’m done. Yea kits are for losers 👎🏼
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: SpitballJedi]
#27167586 - 01/24/21 04:46 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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GREAT I need to blow off steam right now. As a noob who is fleeing grow kits as fast as possible, I shout GROWKITS FUCKING SUCK!. I am trying to get a flush out of purchased shit. Most importantly, I know the yoyos who sold me mine sold me more contaminated jars than sterile ones prepped with BRF. I admit it, I was a fool to fall twice, but that was before I sank deep into Shroomery and the obviously right way to go into this obsession. I turned their tub into a proper SGFC.
SUCK, not in a good way. Not a blowjob, a blow-money job.
First time 12 out of 18 were complete non-colonizers. Anything that started spawning and then went tit's up from contam may be me, may be the spore source [since changed and going to AGAR starting today/tomorrow, so I'll use the beautiful ones I have from a sponsor to start agar petri], but based on one th experience it was the kit supplier. I did manage a shamefully small first flush from six cakes.
So, yeah - GROW KITS SUCK. The second time [shhh, I know...now] 1 jar arrived pre-moldified, 6 jars did not colonize, and 1 stalled in the rectangular shape that Kizzle said indicates bacterial failure. What's weird is I put it out back, temps 45-72, and I've got in vitro growth everywhere except at the rectangle. Like this:
PE6. KIT CAKE.


I learned. I got everything I learned I needed from you mycophiles. agar, oat-grain jars, bucket tek.
FUCK KITS
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Threade [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27167625 - 01/24/21 05:08 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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ya pretty much anything thats pre made is usually trash in my opinion. and payin all that $$ for garbage that the contam rate is so high on just isnt a good idea. your so much better off just takin a lil time and learning to do it all.
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Threade [Re: jcm4620]
#27167805 - 01/24/21 06:42 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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I was ready to fuckin scream. someone, i can't remember who, basically did a beautiful takedown of the one by which i was ripened for education.
life charges tuition.
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Threade [Re: SpaceBaby]
#27167993 - 01/24/21 08:41 PM (3 years, 4 days ago) |
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lol 40grams wet is just a tad over an 1/8th dry. thats literally 1 dose i wouldnt even come close to callin that a success.
i pay around 20-25$ for 50pounds of rye and coco coir is literally cheaper than dirt. a pressure cooker and a dehydrator can usually b found at thrift shops if u look and u can usually get both for around 50$ other than that buy some shit at walmart fuckin totes and a light and what not🤷🏼
after the initial 100-150$ u can grow many mang pounds of dry fruits even
need i say more
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: SpitballJedi]
#27283125 - 04/26/21 07:56 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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DONT SHOOT ME ON SIGHT! BUT...after much hesitation, stress, anxiety and studying...I did buy a grow kit from Midwest Grow Kits. I have had nothing but success with it. I have, since buying my 1st kit, refilled my own substrate. =The instruction manual that came with it was super easy to follow and it really helped my confidence level.
"Everything you need to grow shrooms" is a grow kit. These kits include lights, FC, substrate, grains, heating pads, etc, for a high price and often low quality.
These kits, even the better ones, are not guaranteed to grow anything. So when it fails to produce, you are left with some crappy equipment you paid too much for and still having to by your next round of substrate or grain to use with the shitty overpriced equipment.
Because you haven't really learned anything, you don't know if it's your fault or the kit's fault. It's actually both because YOU bought the kit.
You may be able to reuse the bags or jars that came with the kit, but then you're having to learn how to do all the mixing and cooking yourself just to grow in a crappy FC.
Because you are using the kit, it's harder to get help on this site because we frown on kits and not as many have experience with them. Sorry, but right or wrong, that's the way it is. The same way it is that you can't go to First Baptist Church and expect to get much help understanding the Quran.
So now, you're back at square one. How can I growz me some shroomz? Whether you buy a kit or do it all yourself, chances are you will have some problems in the beginning. But, if you do some research, get what you need, and put in a little effort, you will learn what you did wrong and the cost of redoing will be much lower because you have almost everything you need already.
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Personally, I wouldn't want to spend $50 a try just to find out my FC sucks and I didn't follow the obfuscated instructions.
Grow kits suck.
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: plummerblue]
#27309753 - 05/15/21 11:41 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fairly old thread, but here is what I don't understand: If the extant grow kits suck, why does someone not make a proper grow kit, with the things you need and without the things you don't need.
There seems to be great demand, but no one willing to turn that fact into an opportunity.
It does not make sense.
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: Fun_Guy5387]
#27322051 - 05/25/21 03:36 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fun_Guy5387 said: Fairly old thread, but here is what I don't understand: If the extant grow kits suck, why does someone not make a proper grow kit, with the things you need and without the things you don't need.
There seems to be great demand, but no one willing to turn that fact into an opportunity.
It does not make sense.
You got suppliers that do make very clean ready to fruit kits it's just not the norm now with everyone trying to make a quick buck and half-assing everything.
People here don't like grow kits or pre-made what whats because we know it's not difficult to do it yourself far cheaper and more effectively.
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