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bodhisatta 
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: Lostkey]
#19805765 - 04/06/14 09:43 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: I hate the idea of pre made spawn and substrate. Why the hell would I trust a stranger to do soothing I know I can do myself.
True but it does serve a purpose for people with out a PC.
buying your first round of spawn and substrate + shipping costs more than most peoples first pressure cookers.
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BittrBuffalo
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: Myco_wizard]
#19805884 - 04/06/14 10:12 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Myco_wizard said: Bottom line, kits make your balls shrink.
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Lostkey
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: bodhisatta]
#19806196 - 04/06/14 11:32 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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Lostkey said:
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MudaFuka said: I hate the idea of pre made spawn and substrate. Why the hell would I trust a stranger to do soothing I know I can do myself.
True but it does serve a purpose for people with out a PC.
buying your first round of spawn and substrate + shipping costs more than most peoples first pressure cookers.
Yeah that is 100% true
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grind1
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: Lostkey]
#19806268 - 04/06/14 11:55 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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almost bought a kit til i read the forums and figured i would come out way cheaper piecing it together
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Chaos Creations
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: grind1]
#19806304 - 04/07/14 12:05 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just feel the need to say that this site is probably one of the most influential sources of information about mycology on the internet. Posts like this keep ill informed "noobs" from falling for all the bullshit "grow yo shrroms trip ballz" scam bullshit out there. The analogy catch a man a fish or teach him how to fish comes into play
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shocker
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Chaos Creations said: I just feel the need to say that this site is probably one of the most influential sources of information about mycology on the internet. Posts like this keep ill informed "noobs" from falling for all the bullshit "grow yo shrroms trip ballz" scam bullshit out there. The analogy catch a man a fish or teach him how to fish comes into play
Truth.
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FrankHorrigan
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Chaos Creations said: I just feel the need to say that this site is probably one of the most influential sources of information about mycology cultivation on the internet.
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TheAlbinoYetti
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#19812013 - 04/08/14 08:10 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I bought a large grow kit from Midwest grow kits in hindsight I could've took a day went shopping spent a lot less money and had everything that came in the kit. Except the jars. I didn't have time to make my jars so I cheated bought a large grow kit so I didn't need to go I could just get it and start.. I it was the ultimate one lol I wanted a big first grow. All the items except they provided a humidifier in a large quart jar with hydroton and looks like a bunch of cotton or something. But other than that I needed 18jars and the reviews said that their jars are one of the best as far as contaminants. They are in the incubator now I'll be documenting how it goes mind you I needed a incubator cause how cold it is where I live only Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata can grow naturally
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bodhisatta 
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: TheAlbinoYetti]
#19812152 - 04/08/14 08:51 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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you don't need an incubator if the temp inside of your home is above 65F most of the day.
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MudaFuka
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: bodhisatta]
#19812863 - 04/08/14 11:57 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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The incubator that comes with that kit is just a tub with a heating pad under it. That type of incubator is grate if you are trying to grow bacteria. Ditch the heating pad.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: MudaFuka]
#19812909 - 04/08/14 12:06 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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that too
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MastaBlastar
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: bodhisatta]
#19851272 - 04/15/14 10:01 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah fuck that heating pad.
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Spiritwalker_Faust
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: MastaBlastar]
#20022236 - 05/21/14 08:54 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't understand how new users supposedly lurk on this site for months before posting and still feel buying a premade kit is the best way to start.  This thread needed to be bumped due to recent activity.
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nice bump, i wonder how old spitballs doing
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ZEPH
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: Novanity1]
#20022460 - 05/21/14 09:48 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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i started with a grow kit... the kit that was heavily addvertised in hightime magazine..the kit itself wasnt that bad realy came with agar spore print.. like 1 lb of substrate.. a couple test tubes with rye i belive... was like 75 bux... it was a total flop all my viles contamed and i was fucked.. it did show me advanced procedures i had no buisness doing as a noob.. so my faliure was hard lived and i thought Hell it has to be possible... Then I found the Shroomery... was introduced to tje pf tech and I hit the ground runnin ever since... A kit was a great start for me but if your reading this post you alreqdy found the shroomery so Dont be an idiot
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beforeIgetold
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: ZEPH]
#20023221 - 05/22/14 01:29 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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And still we have to moderate all of you who are dogmatised around diy is better than anything.
My first grow was a mexi cube kit and it actually gave me 10g dry on my first flush.
Several things come into account when talking about growing shrooms. Some don't have time or don't want to spend time doing it from the bottom up. Myself… I really really really can't be bothered about doing it from the bottom. Now since I don't see growing shrooms as a religion or something holy that is not to be tampered with, I don't really care how much a flush gives as long as it gives enough for that 6 monthly trip. Money…. bleh, 40 euros here and there every six months… who cares??
Anyways… you can take one of those easier to grow grow kits and mix it up with the SGFC setup and have decent results. You don't NEED to go by the books, so stop preaching… tripping is nothing but chemical alteration anyways, for my part "set" has NOTHING to at all with the growing part. Growing is just a necessary step towards getting the tools needed for the introspective voyage. (actually… mostly just because growing yourself is easier than buying when Libs are out of season)
But what would really make this forum shine is more tolerance and issuing help to those who find themselves in a place with kits are easierly approachable than doing everything from the bottom. I mean… isn't that why you are trip in the first place? To enforce compassion and be kinder to others? Don't flame others for their choice… it really shouldn't be that hard, and be the better man that can offer solutions or just suggestions based on the premise of the person asking for help. out of the box that you are trapped in.
I get it… some of you take pride in doing something like this yourself… but you have to understand others may not find this pride, but that does NOT disqualify them from asking for help that is not related to the way you are doing it.
It's like if someone is asking for help learning to write, and you scold them for wanting to write with the left hand instead of the right, or write with a magic marker instead of a pencil.
Edited by beforeIgetold (05/22/14 01:33 AM)
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ZEPH
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: beforeIgetold]
#20023272 - 05/22/14 01:46 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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beforelgtold....that isnt the point of this thread.....most newbies wast there money on gimics like i did in 99.. if there here reading this board we are pointing them in a diffrent direction with far superior results...
had to edit......congrats on using a kit and having such good luck with it.!!! that isnt normal........Im sure 70-80% who posted on this thread will dissagree with you
Edited by ZEPH (05/22/14 01:50 AM)
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elasticaltiger
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: beforeIgetold]
#20023277 - 05/22/14 01:48 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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beforeIgetold said: Myself… I really really really can't be bothered about doing it from the bottom.
If you can't be bothered doing it from the bottom then why don't you just buy a bag of shrooms from your pot dealer or something? 
I guess most of us would rather pay 40 euros once then pay 40 euros multiple times a year. Actually I got started for 30 dollars which is like what? 25 euros? The only thing you're doing from the ground up is making jars (10 minutes) sterilizing them (90 minutes) Buildin an SAB (10 minutes) Inoculating them (10 minutes) waiting... Birthing and dunk (10 minutes) build and set up the shotgun fruiting chamber (20 minutes) Mist and fan twice a day (75 minutes total over 15 days) Harvest (5 minutes) dry (5 minute setup)
Total ACTUAL WORK is 4 hours. The only thing I didn't include here is buying supplies which you can get during your regular shopping routine.
So I guess if your privileged 4 hours is too much commitment. But to most of us who hear that 'you can't be bothered' or 'you don't have time' it just sounds like the epitome of lazy douchery. I live paycheck to paycheck and I've had to work for everything so I don't really see this as work.
Plus for that investment. You can make enough shrooms to sell to your friends and actually be compensated for that time you spent making it. To people who start from the ground up the time spent is actually an investment that not only ourselves, but our friends get to benefit from.
Going from scratch is just too much of a win-win to NOT do it.
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ZEPH
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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: elasticaltiger]
#20023291 - 05/22/14 01:53 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Right the Fuck on ET
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cronicr



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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: beforeIgetold]
#20023293 - 05/22/14 01:53 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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beforeIgetold said:
I get it… some of you take pride in doing something like this yourself… but you have to understand others may not find this pride, but that does NOT disqualify them from asking for help that is not related to the way you are doing it.
It's like if someone is asking for help learning to write, and you scold them for wanting to write with the left hand instead of the right, or write with a magic marker instead of a pencil.
i don't think you understand whats really happening though, i'm here everyday and never see anybody get flamed for there kits, just the subjecct gets jumped at but everysingle one gets help one way or another, you probably didn't read much of this thread but the biggest issues that come to play from people posting kit problems is the instructions always suck and vendors hype them up as much as they can, people always will point out why doing it yourself is better because nobody is gonna make you a kit at cost but by no means have i ever not helped anybody just because it's a kit
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