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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19044289 - 10/28/13 04:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Im going out on a limb here, but I too have decided to give plastic a try.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Sockadin]
    #19044302 - 10/28/13 04:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Three days, and 8 of my pp5 plastics show quarter sized growth. inoculated from spore syringe from sponsor.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Sockadin]
    #19044309 - 10/28/13 04:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Im going out on a limb here, but I too have decided to give plastic a try.




Im sure unsure of whats going to happen when it runs out of air to consume, seeing as after sterilization and inoculation the jars are shut tight, I believe reading in violets tek you can open the jars a quarter turn and the pressure inside will level out in some way, ill look up details on the heresay.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19044357 - 10/28/13 04:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I was thinking about it, why couldn't we modify the top of the jars and install a synthetic filter disc as a breathable barrier for gas exchange?  I mean it is too late for your jars, but I might try it out. Also if your jars start to stall which they probably wont, just crack the cap.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Sockadin]
    #19044424 - 10/28/13 05:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yep, I agree, but I dont think they'll stall, seeing as I've seen like fourty in one area on one of violets post and he/she does not use a breathable lid...

:laugh: Going to go check out the growth, its amazing what happens in a few hours.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Sockadin]
    #19044617 - 10/28/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I was thinking about it, why couldn't we modify the top of the jars and install a synthetic filter disc as a breathable barrier for gas exchange?



You could do this. I recommend against it though. Silicone falls off of these lids quite easily. My first uses of these containers was done that way – it annoyed the shit out of me to sterilize a round of containers, inoculate them, and then have the filters fall off a bunch of them on accident.

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Also if your jars start to stall which they probably wont, just crack the cap.



Yep!

A "quarter-turn" is far too much. It only takes 1/8th turn to pop the lids off.
If necessary, loosen just 1/2-1 inch of the lid circumference (which is like 15-16 inches)

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I've done hundreds of these and full colonization has always been reached without the need for any gas exchange.
Perhaps with an agar wedge inoc of a not-so-speedy or multi-spore culture you could experience stalling before full colonization. If this occurs, only a slight crack of the lid is necessary to allow excess CO2 to be pushed out without compromising the rest of colonization.




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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Violet]
    #19044621 - 10/28/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Violet I have had trouble getting silicone to stick to my plastic jar lids before. I started scuffing them up with a rough grit sandpaper and it helped a lot. I imagine the it would work good for the plastic containers you use as well. Silicone just doesn't stick to a slick surface very well. It needs some nooks to grab onto


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Stromrider]
    #19044786 - 10/28/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I've read where people got it to work out by roughing-up the surface silicone is to be applied to.  I didn't have to do this for my plastic quart jar lids but it definitely would have been necessary for the container lids.
My preference is to not modify (maim) them at-all. They almost never need gas exchange before fully-colonized and can be sterilized loose-lid so there's no need to allow the moisture loss thru a filter.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Violet]
    #19044809 - 10/28/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I could definitely see the moisture loss being an issue. Sometimes when I inoculate a new grain master with an agar wedge it takes a while to colonize. The grains on top dry out and don't want to colonize


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Stromrider]
    #19056259 - 10/30/13 05:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My fist experience with these 5pp plastic bowls was interesting. I want to say after I burned my WBS and the whole house stunk, the RGS did well in the microwave. But now they look like they might be getting a little too dry, its hard to tell.

Also anyone ever have an issue with RGS and weevils? I got a package of RGS, and I swear there was a bunch of dead weevils in it. Luckily they are floaters when dead, so I got them all out.

I just read that they lay eggs in grain batches. Should I toss all of this RGS, or do you think the microwave did the trick?





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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Sockadin]
    #19056296 - 10/30/13 05:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm, Im not sure I would throw it away if it were me, but thats me and Im not too experienced.

I would have just PC'ed it and then not cared about the eggs, but I donno about microwave.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19057036 - 10/30/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Any update for those jars you shook, did they slow down?


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
    #19057728 - 10/30/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Any update for those jars you shook, did they slow down?




I'll go do a side-by-side right now for ya :wink:


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19057975 - 10/30/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



Heres some updated pictures.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19058109 - 10/30/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Shaking appears to have been ok for you ! Although all I read says it's hit or miss. When I saw your post about running upstairs to shake I did the same lol the jar I shook had a pea sized growth but alas the very next day there was 2 bb sized green dots and it has been destroyed :sad:


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Rubestoad]
    #19058145 - 10/30/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Shaking appears to have been ok for you ! Although all I read says it's hit or miss. When I saw your post about running upstairs to shake I did the same lol the jar I shook had a pea sized growth but alas the very next day there was 2 bb sized green dots and it has been destroyed :sad:





What was your contam barrier like? Tyvek? Disks?

Im curious as to how the contam was presented, perhaps it was on the interior of the jar and when you shook you brought it out.

If you're confident in your contam.barrier on the jars, than I would keep an eye out on the rest.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19058165 - 10/30/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm using tyvek but I'm pretty sure my syringe is the culprit I'm very new and I posted just a bit ago about my start called introducing me and what I'm doing.

Sorry I'm not even sure how to post a link to it :confused:


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: Rubestoad]
    #19058447 - 10/30/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How good of a shake did you give it? As you probably notice it is about the same % of colonization if not more because of the fact that you can't see through to the middle.


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Re: Need Help Sailing through Endless Skies - Starting Up Again [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
    #19058465 - 10/30/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I shook it once , but more of a spin, err..


After I gave it one good shake I held it sideways and rolled it, as to gently distrubte rather than beat against the sides of the jar as in shake.


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    #19058508 - 10/30/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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