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Re: Calling all PC Techs/Programmers! [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19058557 - 10/30/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Poor Boy said:
since all you guys are here together, lemme ask ya something.

this whole nsa thing... how does this play into linux users? are they safe, for now, or are they just as vulnerable as micros?




The NSA and microsoft as pretty much hand in hand, mutual sex friends.
Also I think with TPM 2.0 (Trusted Platform Module) it was that it allowed secret, remote access to the computer, and access to the crytographic (encryption) keys and passwords contained within.


I'm more than positive if the NSA wanted to, they could hack into your linux box, and probably have malware they keep to themselves that can do this.

Essentially, if the NSA wants you, you're fucked.

However if you are comparing Windows and Linux when accessing the regular Internet, and facing the threats that any average user will face, Linux is by far more secure. There are far fewer linux viruses in "the wild," than there are for Windows machines.


The average amount of time a Windows machine can use the Internet without getting infected is 30-45 seconds. (I got this number from a research document I read awhile back)


Here's the thing though, with the NSA, it mostly relies on Packet filtering and data monitoring. They do this by controlling routers that are either attached to the Internet backbone, or close to it. No matter how damn secured your Linux box is, them routers will be filtering and capturing the packets.

You can take measures to "protect" this data, such as encrypting it, using SSH tunnels, VPNs, proxies, etc... But the NSA being the bid bad boy that it is, can pretty much crack any of these encryption methods with enough time.



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Poor Boy said:
nope. my shit runs a little deeper than that. i use a secured encrypted linux OS for all my... stuffs.




That's nice and all, unfortunately the NSA has some of the worlds best super computers and can crack almost any Encryption out there given enough time (Read Edward Snowden articles)




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Poor Boy said:
from my understanding, NSA can trace every keystroke typed, but are unable to watch/ trace linux users. them niggas cant spy on linux.





I hate to smash your dreams, but it is entirely false my good friend :sad:
The NSA does most of it's surveillence through the use of monitoring Telecommunications logs, Packet sniffing/filtering.


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Re: Calling all PC Techs/Programmers! [Re: deadwk]
    #19059175 - 10/30/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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thedeadwalkk said:
The NSA does most of it's surveillence through the use of monitoring Telecommunications logs, Packet sniffing/filtering.



This. That being said, if your running linux ur a hell of alot safer from the rest of the world. Been running gentoo straight for 3 months and have never looked back. Best decision i ever did. Every box i scan running MS always has numerous vulnerabilities to exploit. Not quite the case for those on 'nix. Assuming you know what your doing that is..


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Re: Calling all PC Techs/Programmers! [Re: xpl0de]
    #19059366 - 10/30/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well i fibbed a bit. i dont use linux anymore. shit was to complicated for my every day use.


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Re: Calling all PC Techs/Programmers! *DELETED* [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19059647 - 10/30/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Calling all PC Techs/Programmers! [Re: stevo]
    #19059672 - 10/30/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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stevo said:
Since Linux and the gnu toolchain are open source so that there are no secrets.  Securelinux is a closed source tool brought to you by nsa.  I would recommend not using it.  Last I checked nobody even knows what it does, but I'm a bit outdated on pcs since I got a smart phone. Any time you install anything you risk possible security.





:lolsy:

Man when I read about that awhile back, I fucking lol'd. Never trust anything with the NSA seal of approval on it.


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xpl0de said:
This. That being said, if your running linux ur a hell of alot safer from the rest of the world. Been running gentoo straight for 3 months and have never looked back. Best decision i ever did. Every box i scan running MS always has numerous vulnerabilities to exploit. Not quite the case for those on 'nix. Assuming you know what your doing that is..




Well it's safer to everyone but the big bad NSA, FBI, and probably the foreign versions of those intelligence agencies.

Agreed! I just recently made the move to Linux (Ubuntu 12.04LTS) and I'm loving every second of it, will move to a more technical version of *nix later on.


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