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car trouble... help?
    #19053915 - 10/29/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

so my car was working fine all day, but when i stopped off mid day to pick a few things up the car would not turn over. you can hear the starter spin, but it just wasnt engaging.

i was like, okay, fuck it. 135.00 for a rebuilt starter. it will set me back, but i need the car to get me to work.

i drop the old starter, take it in and get it tested. yup, bad starter. i pay the 135 and we had back to my car.

i put the new one in. nothing... same thing. it spins, but does not want to engage.

FUCK!!!

we go back to the auto parts place and explain to them the problem. they said bring the other one in to get it tested and go from there.

i dunno...

i get full power in the car. radio, lights, ac.

a guy at the auto parts place said the fly wheel might be in a dead spot and suggested we rock the gears. so we did. we put the car in neutral then threw the car into park. nothing...

we were able to tow the car back to my place and my buddy is going to come over tomorrow to take a look at it, but i figured i might come to you guys as well. i know there are a few car guys here.

its a 2003 Galant ES 2.4L

any help is appreciated.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19053937 - 10/29/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

whoops didn't read your entire post.

i wonder if your solenoid is able to fully extend the gear into the flywheel? maybe it's gettin a bit jammed up? might want to take it off and take a look around at your flywheel, make sure there isn't any unusual wear, warping, or any defects like that.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19053954 - 10/29/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

maybe. i cab bring that up tomorrow.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19053961 - 10/29/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

but, thats two dif starters we tried with the same problem. its not rare to have two bad cels consecutively, but im thinking it might be something else.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19053963 - 10/29/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Flywheel may have had some teeth ground off.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: mpd]
    #19053980 - 10/29/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

im hoping thats not the problem...

anything i can try or look out for?


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19053992 - 10/29/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Poor Boy said:
but, thats two dif starters we tried with the same problem. its not rare to have two bad cels consecutively, but im thinking it might be something else.



i'd do a side by side comparison of your new/old starter for bolt pattern dimensions, teeth length, stuff like that.

sometimes the aftermarket shit just doesn't cut it and certain cars have very, very specific needs in terms of replacement parts.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #19054001 - 10/29/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

while im at work my buddy is going to take the new...er one back and they are going to test both. i hope they come up with something. that 135 came out of my rent money...


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: mpd]
    #19054071 - 10/29/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mpd said:
Flywheel may have had some teeth ground off.




With the information you gave this id the best hypothesis that can be reached.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19054079 - 10/29/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe your alternator? Shit idk haha. Good luck nonetheless. I hate when my car wont start.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: loco801]
    #19054088 - 10/29/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If it was his alternator the starter wouldn't be spinning.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19054711 - 10/29/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mjmihalov said:
If it was his alternator the starter wouldn't be spinning.



Yeah true, I didn't see that.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: loco801]
    #19056441 - 10/30/13 07:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for all the input. my buddy is gonna get into it later today so hopefully we will get to the bottom of it.

i dont know much about flywheels, yet, but going by  his attitude, it seems that flys are either expensive and or a pain to install. he said more than a few times, "lets hope its not the flywheel.".


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19056467 - 10/30/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Poor Boy said:
but, thats two dif starters we tried with the same problem. its not rare to have two bad cels consecutively, but im thinking it might be something else.





i once got two bad brand new alternators' in a row from the parts store.
yeah, changed the same part 3 times...like 8 hours of wasted labor cuz the auto parts store sold me garbage.
shit still pisses me off.
3rd times a charm, right?


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: broken]
    #19056469 - 10/30/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:

thats shitty.

my buddy knows the guy at the store so hes going to take both starters in and get them re tested and go from there.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19056491 - 10/30/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

crankshaft sensor.....:shrug:


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: jboredone]
    #19056515 - 10/30/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

how would one test that?


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: loco801]
    #19056554 - 10/30/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

mjmihalov said:
If it was his alternator the starter wouldn't be spinning.



Yeah true, I didn't see that.




the starter wouldnt spin at all? another friend of mine called and said the alternator may be going bad and isnt giving the starter enough power to engage.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19056558 - 10/30/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Poor Boy said:
how would one test that?



not sure....had the same symptoms a few months back and it was the crankshaft sensor....:shrug:


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: jboredone]
    #19056562 - 10/30/13 08:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ok. thanks.


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