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How long should you wait after doing MDMA before dropping a psychedelic?
    #19054890 - 10/29/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Say, if you dropped MDMA a few days ago, how should you wait before you drop shrooms or acid?


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Re: How long should you wait after doing MDMA before dropping a psychedelic? [Re: NotLiving]
    #19054903 - 10/29/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hypothetically, you should be fine.
You might be a bit tired or burnt out from the roll, but physically you're safe.
People combine MDMA and psychs all the time.
Just avoid SSRIs and MAOIs.


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Re: How long should you wait after doing MDMA before dropping a psychedelic? [Re: MrHill]
    #19054925 - 10/29/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm curious to know what's the best amount of time I should wait so I can get the full effects of shroom or LSD.

I have never taken a psychedelic before, though, so yeah. I'd like my first trip to be a full trip, but then again, time is of the essence for me!


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Re: How long should you wait after doing MDMA before dropping a psychedelic? [Re: NotLiving]
    #19054983 - 10/29/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't believe there's that much of a cross-tolerance with MDMA and serotonergic psychedelics. I could be wrong, never done any research about it but have also never heard about somebody worrying about it.

Personally, I'd wait at least a week in-between if not 2 because I tend to get some post-roll depression that I'd want to have cleared up before I trip.

If you've never taken a psychedelic before I'd wait at least a week or until you're feeling back to baseline (or better) after the MDMA. What psychedelic are you going to break your cherry with?


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Re: How long should you wait after doing MDMA before dropping a psychedelic? [Re: bryguy27007]
    #19055454 - 10/30/13 12:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't believe there's that much of a cross-tolerance with MDMA and serotonergic psychedelics. I could be wrong, never done any research about it but have also never heard about somebody worrying about it.

Personally, I'd wait at least a week in-between if not 2 because I tend to get some post-roll depression that I'd want to have cleared up before I trip.

If you've never taken a psychedelic before I'd wait at least a week or until you're feeling back to baseline (or better) after the MDMA. What psychedelic are you going to break your cherry with?



Thanks! I heard that psychedelics and MDMA are both 5HT2A antagonists (I don't exactly know what that mean), so they both hit the same receptors...

But I'm probably gonna drop either LSD or shrooms... Leaning towards shrooms for some reason after yesterday, but was interested in LSD way before that. What do you think? It's mainly for therapeutic/spiritual reasons, though. I'm really just looking forward to finding the answers to why I feel the way I do (as my life is pretty dull). If you take a look at my other posts around here, you'll probably see why I want to try them out. It might be a long read but it's not like my story really changes every time I type it up :P


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Re: How long should you wait after doing MDMA before dropping a psychedelic? [Re: NotLiving]
    #19055491 - 10/30/13 01:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I waited 1 week after MDMA to do mescaline but wish it had been 2. I'm sensitive to MDMA after effects though so a longer rest for my brain would have been preferable.


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Re: How long should you wait after doing MDMA before dropping a psychedelic? [Re: NotLiving]
    #19055565 - 10/30/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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bryguy27007 said:
I don't believe there's that much of a cross-tolerance with MDMA and serotonergic psychedelics. I could be wrong, never done any research about it but have also never heard about somebody worrying about it.

Personally, I'd wait at least a week in-between if not 2 because I tend to get some post-roll depression that I'd want to have cleared up before I trip.

If you've never taken a psychedelic before I'd wait at least a week or until you're feeling back to baseline (or better) after the MDMA. What psychedelic are you going to break your cherry with?



Thanks! I heard that psychedelics and MDMA are both 5HT2A antagonists (I don't exactly know what that mean), so they both hit the same receptors...

But I'm probably gonna drop either LSD or shrooms... Leaning towards shrooms for some reason after yesterday, but was interested in LSD way before that. What do you think? It's mainly for therapeutic/spiritual reasons, though. I'm really just looking forward to finding the answers to why I feel the way I do (as my life is pretty dull). If you take a look at my other posts around here, you'll probably see why I want to try them out. It might be a long read but it's not like my story really changes every time I type it up :P




I don't think MDMA has much affinity for the 5-HT2a receptor subtype. It obviously has affinity for 5-HT receptors (serotonin). The way I think of it is that the "a" subtype is what is responsible for most of the effects of traditional psychedelics. The is evidence that the "c" subtype is indicated in cases of mystical experiences, which I thought was super interesting.

http://www.maps.org/mdma/mt1_docs/ib_mdma_12_07_final.pdf
I looked it up. Page 9 of this link if you're curious. The copy paste lost any sense of formatting so I deleted it. It seems that MDMA does have some affinity for the 5-HT2a receptor subtype, but the majority of it's action is most likely from other serotonergic receptor interaction and other sources as well. This is interesting, wish I had a little more time to go deeper but I'm afraid that's all for right now.

I would most likely go with mushrooms for your first trip. It's HARD to get bunk/something else sold to you as psilocybin mushrooms. The duration is about half that of LSD and I think mushrooms are a great introductory psychedelic (not as good as 2C-B or real LSD though). There can be a little more confusion with mushrooms than with LSD but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I would eat maybe 2 grams of mushrooms in order to get a taste of what they are about.

On the other hand, if you're confident that your acid is in fact real LSD then that would probably be a good place to start as well. However, there are a lot of research chemicals that are sold as LSD. I personally like to know the identity of the compound I'm taking and what I might expect so a test-kit or a trusted source is key.

In my opinion, LSD has been better for personal growth and mushrooms better for spiritual growth (not that they're mutually exclusive). You're results WILL vary, especially with psychedelics. Very unpredictable.

Whatever you decide let us know how it goes! I'm curious!


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