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ed94514
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I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours?
#19054389 - 10/29/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have boxes with Brf And Verm I have my syringes, waiting on some jars I ordered...this shit is going down
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SynKyd
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: ed94514]
#19054423 - 10/29/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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make sure you know what size jars you have when you spawn to bulk.....half pints are not quarts!
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: SynKyd]
#19054596 - 10/29/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just recently learned not to use too much water when pressure cooking the jars. Fucked up all mine cuz water got into the jars.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: ShroomyJoe]
#19054714 - 10/29/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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-Build your SGFC to spec, and don't skimp on the perlite 
-LC is a waste of time unless you inoculate it with agar, hence start with the agar 
-Spores101 is garbage as is Ralphsters 
-When pasteurizing place the jars into the water before it gets hot 
-Cutting corners leads to contams
Edited by Pastywhyte (10/29/13 10:46 PM)
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Giggle_Grower
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: ShroomyJoe]
#19054726 - 10/29/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My biggest set back was growing before i found the shroomery. Most dangerous of which was the false knowledge that shrooms from contamed cakes were perfectly safe to eat. FUCK YOU SPORES101!
After finding the shroomery, my biggest mistake was not using the search function enough.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: Giggle_Grower]
#19054755 - 10/29/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Giggle_Grower said: Most dangerous of which was the false knowledge that shrooms from contamed cakes were perfectly safe to eat.
Fruits that do not have mold or bacteria on them are perfectly safe to consume. Mycelium digests its food and will not pull bacteria from the substrate into the fruit the way plants do. Bacteria dies in the dehydrator anyway
Edited by Pastywhyte (10/29/13 10:44 PM)
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Stromrider
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: Giggle_Grower]
#19054792 - 10/29/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I mostly followed the advice from the great people on this site and RR's video series so I didn't make too many mistakes. I did however use the wrong jars for my first pf tek grow and they took forever to colonize.
I used the tall skinny 1/2 pint jars. On my second attempt I used the proper short fat "kerr" wide mouth jars and they colonized much quicker and fruited better.
A lot of people have trouble finding those wide mouth Kerr jars. You can get them at Ace hardware or off Amazon
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Giggle_Grower
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19054836 - 10/29/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said:
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Giggle_Grower said: Most dangerous of which was the false knowledge that shrooms from contamed cakes were perfectly safe to eat.
Fruits that do not have mold or bacteria on them are perfectly safe to consume. Mycelium digests its food and will not pull bacteria from the substrate into the fruit the way plants do. Bacteria dies in the dehydrator anyway 
Id be lying if i said they fruits were contam free. And IIRC, eating fruits from contamed cakes can increase the chances of getting mushroom farmers sickness, since your eating/inhaling a huge amount of nasty spores. Especially with repeated doses.
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Edited by Giggle_Grower (10/29/13 11:01 PM)
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JanethTheGreat
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: Giggle_Grower]
#19054884 - 10/29/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hmmmm... mistakes I made.... When I inoculated, I didn't look until I was ready to actually do it and thought the syringe had an actual needle. Instead, it's just kind of small metal tube that is WAAAY too big to be a needle. Like, if you hold the syringe up and down, it just gushes out. I didn't make my holes in the lids big enough so some jars only got hit once or twice with spore.... And a bunch of my spores leaked into the first 3 jars, and not much into the rest... But I still got 9/12 successful jars. My only contam was cobweb which is treatable. The ones that failed just didn't do anything at all.
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: JanethTheGreat]
#19054920 - 10/29/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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KEEP THE FUCKING ANTS AWAY FROM YOUR BRF JARS!!! tyvek, tape, whatever - just make sure they can't climb in through the ventilation holes.
the little fuckers eat all the BRF and replace it with a wide selection of contaminants covering all the colours of the rainbow
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: ShroomyJoe]
#19055016 - 10/29/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ShroomyJoe said: I just recently learned not to use too much water when pressure cooking the jars. Fucked up all mine cuz water got into the jars.
How much water did you use
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Stromrider
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: DeadPhan]
#19055098 - 10/29/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DeadPhan said:
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ShroomyJoe said: I just recently learned not to use too much water when pressure cooking the jars. Fucked up all mine cuz water got into the jars.
How much water did you use
Too much
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: ed94514]
#19055122 - 10/29/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If a project goes moldy, don't try to save it - which I know is hard if you have only one tub (or whatever) going on at the moment......
but it's not like you're just going to give up this hobby, there will be other projects! and you'll probably end up with so many going at once that you won't be so devastated when one goes south.....
I used to try to do "jar surgery" if I had a moldy jar that wasn't too-too bad (flame up some tweezers and try to tweeze my myc chunk from a moldy jar and deposit into a clean one - guess how often THAT usually worked out??? really dumb.) when you see mold, toss that shit and try to figure out what might have gone wrong and learn from it & better your technique.
Once had a moldy tub that my bf just couldn't bear to toss (it was one of our first ones) so he put it down in the basement and let it keep going & going because he didn't want to lose those fruits guess what - that tub gave us a whole QUARTER OZ of fucked-up stringy sickly mushies and apparently a whole houseload of trich spores because my next few grows were fucked until I did a whole house cleaning (and I mean THOROUGH).....
so yeah anything with mold = OUTSIDE TRASH IMMEDIATELY
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: Stromrider]
#19055154 - 10/29/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Never get discouraged. I went through two shipments of bad syringes when I first started, one of which came from a sponsor in good standing. I don't blame anyone, it was just bad luck. My next try went without a hitch, and now I am jumping into this hobby like nobody's business and loving it. If I had given up after my first or even my second negative result, I would not have the joys of mycology in my life each day.
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: Stromrider]
#19055318 - 10/30/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: I mostly followed the advice from the great people on this site and RR's video series so I didn't make too many mistakes. I did however use the wrong jars for my first pf tek grow and they took forever to colonize.
I used the tall skinny 1/2 pint jars. On my second attempt I used the proper short fat "kerr" wide mouth jars and they colonized much quicker and fruited better.
A lot of people have trouble finding those wide mouth Kerr jars. You can get them at Ace hardware or off Amazon
haha I got the wrong jars at first too! I cought it before I did anything with them though lol.
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ed94514
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: Global_Roaming]
#19056250 - 10/30/13 05:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks guys no bad info so far
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Pastywhyte
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: Giggle_Grower]
#19056314 - 10/30/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Giggle_Grower said: Id be lying if i said they fruits were contam free. And IIRC, eating fruits from contamed cakes can increase the chances of getting mushroom farmers sickness, since your eating/inhaling a huge amount of nasty spores. Especially with repeated doses.
It the fruits look healthy, and don't have mold on them, they are fine.
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RogerRabbit said: If it produces healthy mushrooms, they're safe to eat. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7417592#7417592
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RogerRabbit said: There is nothing wrong with fruiting contaminated cakes outdoors and there is absolutely no human health hazards from doing so. We toss out contaminated substrates to protect our growing area and other projects from the increased mold sporeload, not our own bodies.
No grow in nature is sterile, yet outdoor wild mushrooms are safe to eat. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17013825#17013825
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RogerRabbit said: They're fine, but a quick search in the contamination forum would have revealed that even if there was a few spots of mold on the cakes, the mushrooms themselves would be OK to eat. All wild fruits grow in conjunction with molds and bacteria. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10095202#10095202
I'd post more of the 15000 quotes from TC's on the matter but a quick search will reveal them all to any who are interested. Mushroom workers lung is not related to contam spores but rather oyster spores which are pretty nasty. My dog is allergic and I can't grow oysters indoors at all.
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RogerRabbit said: I've had my fans clogged up with shiitake spores as well as everything else, but haven't gotten sick from them.
For me at least, it's only oyster mushroom spores which have this effect, and I've had to quit growing them for this reason. I've also not heard of anyone else getting sick from shiitake spores.
If this turns out to be the case, I suggest a full face respirator with charcoal cartridges and an N95 attachment to go over the charcoal canisters. I bought mine from uline.com so I could go back to oyster growing, but just the sight of oysters now gives me a (psychological I'm sure) case of the willies so I just don't grow them anymore at all. RR
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16389433#16389433
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19056360 - 10/30/13 06:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I made 12 PF Tek jars and forgot to wipe the rims
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urthtown
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: OgreLokon]
#19056401 - 10/30/13 06:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I nocc'd 8 hpoo/straw cakes before I realised they wouldn't germinate... then had to go back and do all BRF cakes as spawn with a new syringe...
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Pastywhyte
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Re: I believe that mistakes are the best way to learn. New guy here wanting to know what were yours? [Re: urthtown]
#19056427 - 10/30/13 06:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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urthtown said: I nocc'd 8 hpoo/straw cakes before I realised they wouldn't germinate... then had to go back and do all BRF cakes as spawn with a new syringe... 
That might have worked for pans
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