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shroomekalb96
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a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos)
#19054552 - 10/29/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Habitat: pnw(Portland) So i have 2 A. muscaria variants. both found in a larger group under pine.yellowish-orange with slight reding in middle, white gills and white stalk and white spore print... but as i looked at the group of specimens i noticed not all of them had the concentrated rings or the fuzzy look on the vulva. so i was wondering if anyone knows about toxic look-a-like that has no rings around vulva or if maybe i just picked them too early for them to be noticeable? thanks for reading, i would upload pictures but sadly my friend lost my phone edit: so what i really want to know is can i eat these, there in my oven now but figured i would check in too see what people thought about the vulva variants.
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: shroomekalb96]
#19054598 - 10/29/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I doubt anyone here is willing to make a firm ID without pictures. Also the word is "volva", not "vulva".
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art2312
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: thiotimoline]
#19054628 - 10/29/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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thiotimoline said: I doubt anyone here is willing to make a firm ID without pictures. Also the word is "volva", not "vulva".
in his gallery....the yellow one MIGHT be amanita muscaria var..... but i cant tell for sure...could you maybe get some better pics of the base of the stem?
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shroomekalb96
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: shroomekalb96]
#19054630 - 10/29/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i think im just being paranoid about the "volva" but i didnt find any thing on a. muscaria's without the concentrated ring. anyone with expeirence with these no if they absolutly need the rings or is this something else?
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shroomekalb96
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: art2312]
#19054658 - 10/29/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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the ones in my gallery are from last season, the ones i picked today were found 30 feet away from that patch. they look like smaller versions of them cause they were young(stipe: 3inches/cap was about 4" across). other than the base the only differnce is these dont look as meaty looking(big/thick)as some of the others do
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shroomekalb96
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: shroomekalb96]
#19054712 - 10/29/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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so im just going to eat a cap cause im like 80% sure these are the right mushroom, i know that sounds stupid but i cant find any poisonous amanitas that have red-yellow-orange cap
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art2312
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: shroomekalb96]
#19054715 - 10/29/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh, without current pics, i dont think anyone will give you an ID on amanita... to my knowledge, ALL muscaria have concentric rings at their base...that is one of, if not THE, identifying factor for muscarias, i believe.... i dont THINK any other amanita sp. have the concentric rings, outside of muscaria... but dont hold me to that
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art2312
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: shroomekalb96]
#19054718 - 10/29/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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shroomekalb96 said: so im just going to eat a cap cause im like 80% sure these are the right mushroom, i know that sounds stupid but i cant find any poisonous amanitas that have red-yellow-orange cap
bro, you could be right...but you could also be VERY wrong...amanitas are nothing to fuck with man, for real....
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shroomekalb96
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: art2312]
#19054934 - 10/29/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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so ive looked up alot of differnt poisonous mushrooms from the species amanita,lepito and argic and found no look alikes to the pnw a. muscaria. does any one have a source for poisenious mushrooms they would like to share that might help?
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: shroomekalb96]
#19054979 - 10/29/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There are no poisonus look alikes for A. muscaria here.
But I don't know what looks "alike" to you.
I mean there are people asking if armillaria are cyans so, you know.
I don't want to help you with your ID for safety sake.
If is is a red to yellow amanita with white warts on the cap and concentric rings on the base it is Amanita muscaria.
If the cap looks like this then it is A muscaria.
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: Ganzig]
#19055000 - 10/29/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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that is a great pic bro
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shroomekalb96
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: Ganzig]
#19055009 - 10/29/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i understand that look alike could mean anything and ive decided not to eat these. they look exactly like other pnw muscaria i have picked just with no rings around the base, so better safe than sorry. thanks for the responses
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art2312
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: shroomekalb96]
#19055013 - 10/29/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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shroomekalb96 said: i understand that look alike could mean anything and ive decided not to eat these. they look exactly like other pnw muscaria i have picked just with no rings around the base, so better safe than sorry. thanks for the responses
good to hear sir
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Ganzig
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: art2312]
#19055030 - 10/29/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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art2312 said:
that is a great pic bro 
Haha. Yeah. That was from when I first joined the shroomery. 7 effing years.
My skin is not so nice anymore.
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art2312
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: Ganzig]
#19055192 - 10/29/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol, gettin some wrinkles in our old age are we .....age is just a number anyways .... youre not that old anyways, right?
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Ganzig
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: art2312]
#19055196 - 10/29/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Meh, not that old. Bout to turn 31.
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art2312
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: Ganzig]
#19055205 - 10/29/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol...youre barely older than me.... i got a wife and a kid thats about to be 2...now im feelin a little old lol
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: art2312]
#19055441 - 10/30/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ganzig: I'm sure your skin looks better than that of the Amanita you're holding 
Here's me a couple years ago...
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Ganzig
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Re: a. muscaria look-a-like?(no photos) [Re: FoxDie]
#19055446 - 10/30/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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FoxDie said: Ganzig: I'm sure your skin looks better than that of the Amanita you're holding 
Here's me a couple years ago...

Haha maybe you are right.
Rad Mars Volta shirt.
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