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ID Request - Cubensis?
    #19054117 - 10/29/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Habitat:
Unknown, purchased.

Gills:
Dark tan to brown, I would say they're free, as in not really attached. They nearly reach the stem.

Stem:
few inches, light/white coloring, looks like it bruises dark brown to black

Cap:
an inch and a half or more, also bruises dark, colored tan or golden brown.

Spore print color:
unsure of how to take this.

Bruising:
dark brown / black, maybe a little bluish bruising.

Other information:
smells very earth, dark in the center of the cap.







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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054214 - 10/29/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

it's virtually impossible to id dry mushies...

are they dry???


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #19054271 - 10/29/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, I had no idea that was the case.
Yeah, they're dry.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054301 - 10/29/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Those look like dry Armillaria. Cubensis don't have light brown gills, not normally.
I think you may have been ripped off.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19054338 - 10/29/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:...sorry brotha


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: art2312]
    #19054462 - 10/29/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I bought from a trusted source. Last time I purchased, I'm fairly certain it was these same 'shrooms due to the similarity in looks. The last ones had me tripping balls hard.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054475 - 10/29/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I could be wrong, the unnatural lighting doesn't help the situation.
I don't think they look like cubensis but I'm no expert on the matter.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054481 - 10/29/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I agree, they don't look like cubensis to me.  Can you get a picture in better light?  Is there any blue bruising visible at all?


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19054484 - 10/29/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, let me take a few more pics. Hold up


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054496 - 10/29/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19054523 - 10/29/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

quite frankly, i think they look like dried cubes..the pictures almost couldn't be any worse but the 3rd pictures looks like dried cubensis too me

but wait is that an anulus?

hmmm.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19054541 - 10/29/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)







Here you go.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054551 - 10/29/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not really any blue bruising... the last batch I got had noticeable blue bruises. One of these has a tiny bit of bruising that looks greenish/blueish.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054556 - 10/29/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

im NO expert on cubes but....i wouldnt put money on those being cubes...:justdontknow:


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Lhun]
    #19054557 - 10/29/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Is there any blue bruising visible at all?




:whathesaid: :confused:


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Rafiikii]
    #19054563 - 10/29/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Those are sketchy as fuck...


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19054580 - 10/29/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Those are sketchy as fuck...




with no bruising what so ever, i have to agree. check your sources OP


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Rafiikii]
    #19054601 - 10/29/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Those pictures are still taken under a dim light.  I can't make out true color with the photos provided.  Do you have a bright white light in your bathroom perhaps?  Or maybe shine a flashlight on them, then take the photo?    Cubensis should show clear signs of bruising, I'm not seeing it with the photos provided.  :shrug:


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Rafiikii]
    #19054602 - 10/29/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Those are sketchy as fuck...




with no bruising what so ever, i have to agree. check your sources OP



no doubt!


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: art2312]
    #19054722 - 10/29/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well, its not like he sold them to me as cubensis... that was my guess. If they aren't cubes, any other ideas? They're definitely psilocybin.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054739 - 10/29/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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They're definitely psilocybin.



how did you come to that conclusion?


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: art2312]
    #19054774 - 10/29/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They look a lot like cyanescens(sp) to me. Match very close to dried pics online


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054779 - 10/29/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I've tripped on them.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054789 - 10/29/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:justdontknow:....im no TI... i wouldnt eat those... but thats not my choice in the end...


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054802 - 10/29/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cyanescens would not have an annulus (ring around the stem) like that.  Are you sure the mushrooms you ate before looked like that?  I would not eat those either. 

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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Lhun]
    #19054818 - 10/29/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There is no annulus on these lol.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054844 - 10/29/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

it might be too late but do think you might have some better photography and judgement skills lying around?


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19054849 - 10/29/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Those look like dry Armillaria.




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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Ganzig]
    #19054856 - 10/29/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I can clearly see the annulus on the larger one in every photo.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054857 - 10/29/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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There is no annulus on these lol.



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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Lhun]
    #19054862 - 10/29/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I can clearly see the annulus on the larger one in every photo.




Same here.

And OP, you did not trip on these unless you mean you tripped and fell walking
by them growing from some wood.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054869 - 10/29/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, I've tripped on them.




Just you wait till you trip on actual psychedelics.

It's gonna blow your mind.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Ganzig]
    #19054873 - 10/29/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

lol... trippin on, trippin over... same difference :grin:


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19054913 - 10/29/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, its not like he sold them to me as cubensis...




What were they sold to you as?  Were you hoping they would turn into cubes?


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: jet li]
    #19054927 - 10/29/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, its not like he sold them to me as cubensis...




What were they sold to you as?  Were you hoping they would turn into cubes?



just waiting for them to "activate" :evil:


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: art2312]
    #19055153 - 10/29/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There is no annulus on the large one. I don't know what you're looking at.
Either way, I didn't post this to engage a pissing contest. Thanks anyways.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19055172 - 10/29/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

wow...i thought we were all trying to help you....but apparently i was wrong about your cubes too so :justdontknow:


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: art2312]
    #19055225 - 10/30/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No one really offered any kind of insight, other than "they're not cubes" which I realized a few minutes after posting.
It's cool though. I think they're probably cyanenscens, which would explain for the extremely strong trip I had last time.



I can definitely see a resemblance. & ^ came from erowid.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Ganzig]
    #19055261 - 10/30/13 12:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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No one really offered any kind of insight, other than "they're not cubes"





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Those look like dry Armillaria.




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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19055263 - 10/30/13 12:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Or they could be some completely different mushroom with LSD or some research chemical added.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: thiotimoline]
    #19055296 - 10/30/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry, I completely disregarded the Armillaria comment because it was stupid.
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Or they could be some completely different mushroom with LSD or some research chemical added.



...are you kidding me?


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19055312 - 10/30/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry, I completely disregarded the Armillaria comment because it was stupid.





:whateveryousayfreak:

Just go away and never come back.

I should not have said that. Sorry. Stay! Don't go away!


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Ganzig]
    #19055324 - 10/30/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, Smeagol.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Ganzig]
    #19055331 - 10/30/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry, I completely disregarded the Armillaria comment because it was stupid.





Just go away and never come back.



:whathesaid: please


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: art2312]
    #19056077 - 10/30/13 03:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You were all wrong.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19056281 - 10/30/13 05:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wow Guys. We have only seen the specimens in the same crappy lighting that made the gills looks sketch.

Aside from the color, They look like cubes to me. The Annulus appears to me as that of a typical cubensis. long and thin. This one just seems to be apressed upward making it look thick and unnatural.

On top of all of this. OP claims to have tripped on them.

Im sure if he took a photo outside during a sunny day or under a different light. we would probably see that it is an active species.

This looks Exactly like a dry cube to me.


But then again, what do I know :shrug:

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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: applesmasher420]
    #19056313 - 10/30/13 05:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19056553 - 10/30/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

We are not stupid.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: InfernalSavior]
    #19056658 - 10/30/13 09:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Good to hear everything worked out InfernalSavior.  I was not comfortable calling them cubensis given the quality of the pictures provided.  They may have been the right general shape, but the colors were way off.  Next time take photos under natural (or at least bright) light.

Oh, and for future reference, this is an annulus -



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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Lhun]
    #19056736 - 10/30/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have found TONS of cubes in the wild and these look just like mine after I would dry them. I'm not gonna say for 100% certain that these are cubes, but I will say that I am 99% certain you have cubes.

OP, do you live in the Gulf region? If so, it's possible someone is selling you wild cubes. If not, then you probably got some cultivated cubes that were harvested a little late, but that's just my guess.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: isic]
    #19056838 - 10/30/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry for saying to go away and never come back.

That was not nice.

I walked into this thread and you were already made to be upset
by what was going on and I should have noticed that.

Don't go away. Stay! I am normally pretty nice.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Ganzig]
    #19057216 - 10/30/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not saying my speculation is *likely*, but it is a thing that happens on rare occasion. The fact that you tripped on these mushrooms before is evidence that they are Psilocybes, and overall I think it's likely that they are, but it is not proof positive.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: thiotimoline]
    #19057303 - 10/30/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

lol next time somebody is told that their cubes are bunk  im going to give them my address and they can give their bunk cubes to me : D


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: jet li]
    #19057392 - 10/30/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, its not like he sold them to me as cubensis...




What were they sold to you as?  Were you hoping they would turn into cubes?




LMAO! Some REAL magic mushrooms THERE right? Too FUNNY! That is DEFINITELY an annulus.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: perkysmiles]
    #19057409 - 10/30/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

what is your point? cubes have an annulus


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: applesmasher420]
    #19057471 - 10/30/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Wow Guys. We have only seen the specimens in the same crappy lighting that made the gills looks sketch.

Aside from the color, They look like cubes to me. The Annulus appears to me as that of a typical cubensis. long and thin. This one just seems to be apressed upward making it look thick and unnatural.

On top of all of this. OP claims to have tripped on them.

Im sure if he took a photo outside during a sunny day or under a different light. we would probably see that it is an active species.

This looks Exactly like a dry cube to me.


But then again, what do I know :shrug:

Welcome to the Shroomery InfernalSavior! :super: Haha,
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The pics are SO not becoming of the actual mushrooms, with better pics I'm sure everyone might not have gone on the tangent they did. I personally have absolutely zero experience with cubes. But I have heard of people injecting other psychoactive ingredients into mushrooms and passing them off as psilocybes.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: Ganzig]
    #19057504 - 10/30/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ganzig said:
Sorry for saying to go away and never come back.

That was not nice.

I walked into this thread and you were already made to be upset
by what was going on and I should have noticed that.

Don't go away. Stay! I am normally pretty nice.




SHAME on you Ganzig:crazy2: Just playin (sort of). But seriously welcome to the shroomery InfernalSavior. It's been my experience that most shroomerites don't usually behave like this. Must be the moon. Take it with a grain of salt and keep coming back to learn things.


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Re: ID Request - Cubensis? [Re: perkysmiles]
    #19058043 - 10/30/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Time to close this thread, methinks.

With the pictures provided there's nothing more we can do but bicker.


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