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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: the mad machinest]
    #19061932 - 10/31/13 06:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

As said

-Your flywheel ring gear could be missing teeth
-Your starter motor isn't throwing out/pulling in the gear to engage with the flywheel ring gear
-Lack of voltage to correctly operate the starter motor

I'm pretty sure you said you could hear the starter motor spinning but it wasn't "Starting" So I'd go with either of the top two.

Like another mechanic said before, sometimes when you remove a starter motor they have shims to set correct distance for the starter gear to engage correctly, make sure you didn't lose them. :smile:

I hope you can make sense of this.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Sanpedrox]
    #19062061 - 10/31/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, i gotcha. my buddy and i are on different scheduels, so its hard to be in the same spot at once. i have a felling the car will be out of commission until this weekend. last night i couldnt do much of anything cause he had the battery...


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19068932 - 11/01/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #19069052 - 11/01/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

he picked up the battery from the shop yesterday and was fully charged. still nothing...

but

he said he had noticed a scraping on the flywheel. like a streak...


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19069170 - 11/01/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You could unbolt the starter and check the pinion gear to see if its damaged. Then you can see a small section of the flywheel. Have someone rotate the engine by hand with a breaker bar and socket to inspect the teeth on the fly wheel put the socket on the pully nut comming off the crank shaft and rotate clockwise to rotate the flywheel.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #19069195 - 11/01/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

thats what he did which is how he saw the marks. a few teeth were a bit worn, but he was able to scrape em down a bit. there is still no explanation for the scratch marks.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19069208 - 11/01/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Unbolt starter from bell housing while leaving wires connected.  Turn key what happens? U might have to ground starter case.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: magicbroncoride]
    #19073876 - 11/02/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i just posted the car for 800.00 OBO. im 95% sure my dad will lend me his car until i can get another one.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19074077 - 11/02/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Poor Boy said:
thats what he did which is how he saw the marks. a few teeth were a bit worn, but he was able to scrape em down a bit. there is still no explanation for the scratch marks.





sounds like the starter is out of alignment, possibly needing shims as was mentioned earlier


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19074094 - 11/02/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

this car doesnt have shims...


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19074153 - 11/02/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

what kind of car?


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19074229 - 11/02/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

2003 galant ES


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19074438 - 11/02/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

my phone has been blowing up all morning. i also spoke with my dad and he doesnt have a problem with me borrowing his car until i can get a new one.

i put 800 obo, but ill only go as low as 700.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19074914 - 11/02/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If it don't run and requires shittons of work you'll be lucky to get $500 for it.  A junk yard might buy it for $100 off you...


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Maverick]
    #19075149 - 11/02/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It has brand new tires and a new starter. If you have a shop you could make some money... Ecspecially with tax returns coming around...


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19075173 - 11/02/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

But if the flywheel is fucked, who cares about a cheap starter?  The flywheel is going to require an engine pull, gotta remove the transmission, you'll need an engine jack, you and dismantle your manifold etc.  Lots of tools, time and money.

Basically the labor would be more than $700 worth of work.

People don't buy scrap cars for $700, they buy shitty but running cars that they can fix up for 300-500$ and sell for $4000.  If it's going to cost more to do the repair, people won't buy it. 

I do hope you find someone who needs the parts and is willing to part around $500 though, sucks that you lost your car.  My statement above is just me being realistic about the prices.


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Maverick]
    #19075275 - 11/02/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I know... I'm just trying to be optimistic...


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19076779 - 11/02/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I already told you the problem is a sensor....We tried all the things you have it ended up being the crankshaft sensor.....:bendoverrover:



p.s. your mechanic is lying to you about the scrape marks lol


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: jboredone]
    #19079159 - 11/03/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Any way to get that tested?


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Re: car trouble... help? [Re: Poor Boy]
    #19080404 - 11/03/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just sold the car for 650. The guy was saying something was off with the timming belt and the heads.


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