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Fungusamongus1
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Once in a lucid dream
#19053759 - 10/29/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lucid dreams . What are they , why do they feel so different than other dreams , what do they mean , and why do we have them ? This question has always puzzled me as I started to have lucid dreams at as far as I can remember 9 , but probably earlier . Lucid dreams they seem so real . why is it that some seem to say they never enter this state ? My lucid dreams aren't brought on my any external inducer . They are sometimes walking up but still be dreaming dreams that trigger the lucidity . Sometimes it seems like I'm In search of the lucid dream . Almost looking for clues for myself that I am dreaming . Yet other times my dreams simply become lucid . I also seem to sometimes enter into more lucid ranges in my dreams by gaining lucidity like a light switch which they work right in my dreams now to looking at a book or hearing my repeated mantra I say on nights I decide to dream more lucid . Now as what I can achieve in a lucid dream is unbelievable . Changing dreamscape completely in a moment . Teleportation into dreams I somehow can choose from . To dreams where I am in control of everything I go about asking dream shells if they know they are just a part of my dreams and I've had some very deep answers . Some lucid dreams I just watch play out knowing I'm dreaming . Even have had what I called the to be continued dreams and dreams that end with credits . Very strange . I'd love to hear about others lucid dreaming . I'd love to know how they are triggered for you . What can you do in them ? What triggers your lucidity in your dreams . How complex of a dream world can u create ? Etc ?
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They're always pretty amazing, and I think the only limit is our imagination - what we can conceive of doing. I've read of people shape shifting into animals and feeling what its like to be that animal, of visiting alien worlds and interacting with our consciousness, of meeting "guides" that give practical real world advise, of entering states of awareness that we don't yet have the words to describe. I love how the physicist Thomas Campbell describes these states of consciousness: simply that of another "reality frame" we can tap into for information.
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Fungusamongus1
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#19054538 - 10/29/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is certainly a part of humans that needs to be explored . What is the observer as compared to the dreamer ? Might seem like a weird question . At that one moment when the dreamer sees the dreamer in the dream as compared to when the dreamer in the dream is see the dream and not their selfs in them in being but in the mind . A movie lucid dream or a one when your in the dream world watching in real life as uposed to a watching like a movie or both The switch between the two . A great mystery but one that offers a lot of clues . Please would love to hear thoughts , insights , beliefs and ect about lucid dreams . Peace and in the words of I dunno who but a penny for your thought ?
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Fungusamongus1 said: It is certainly a part of humans that needs to be explored . What is the observer as compared to the dreamer ? Might seem like a weird question . At that one moment when the dreamer sees the dreamer in the dream as compared to when the dreamer in the dream is see the dream and not their selfs in them in being but in the mind . A movie lucid dream or a one when your in the dream world watching in real life as uposed to a watching like a movie or both The switch between the two . A great mystery but one that offers a lot of clues . Please would love to hear thoughts , insights , beliefs and ect about lucid dreams . Peace and in the words of I dunno who but a penny for your thought ?
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i had some crazy dreams last night that ended up become lucid. anyway i fell into a lucid dream after waking up and checking the time and going back to sleep, i realized i was dreaming. i began jump/flying, usually something i do every time i lucid dream to get from "am i dreaming?" to "i am definitely dreaming"
anyway, this time the dream got pretty fucked up. i ended up in many parts of the world, i wasn't just making massive jumps but i was getting on planes as well having no idea where i was headed... after meeting some pretty bizare characters some how i convinced myself that i was no longer dreaming, i was in iraq at some location i though learned about in my waking life that actually existed, i immediately looked it up and it seems it doesn't actually exist tho. it was friday, 2 days after i remembered being awake. (i think remembering the time i went to sleep and having an idea of the time in the dream somehow convinced me i was no longer dreaming)
anyway it got pretty bizarre because all of a sudden it wasn't fun and games, i was actually on the other side of the world having been gone from my home for 2 days. probably going to get fired, fail my classes, rents due and i would miss it and probably lose all my shit, etc... it was pretty startling
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: SurReality]
#19057081 - 10/30/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can consciously shift tones in dreams and summon meteorites but I cant ever fly. Fuck lucid dreaming!
But seriously they're awesome and I can't fly
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Fungusamongus1
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#19057099 - 10/30/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I will post one of my lucid dreams . A very intense one after I get it typed for my notes
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Fungusamongus1
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Anything is possible in a lucid dream . I've been able to leap from dream waking up in a dream , but still staying asleep . I have one lucid dream Years back that I can remember six destinct false awakenings and still remaining lucid . This one dream I was prospecting for gold in Alaska . I had worked about six hours digging . Went to camp because a storm but on the way there I awoke to find myself in bed so I looked around and was just becoming aware that I was dreaming so I lied down in my dream and fell asleep in my dream . Now after falling asleep I was in a car driving through this tunnel . I noticed the tunnel stopped and at the end was a door . I walked to the door excited about what I'd find . When I opened the door I entered this building full of concrete stairs and doors everywhere . Also walk around these stairs I would run I to these 2 dimensional card beings about 7 foot tall . They had grey faces and markings almost like playing cards . They had very square shoulders like a card but with a head . Anyways I walked around this place of stairs and doors . I had this urge and being in this dream I wanted to finally get back to my car as I was bored . So as I opened the I was looking for an as I did I was on a golf course or so it seemed . A guy I think kind of like smiling bob Was putting and as his ball went in the cup everything started to conform as if the cup had become a black hole and I contorted and was pulled Into this dream black hole . As I went through the cup I was amazed that I ended up in the same building with the card people . I went looked around almost the exact same path I took before the only difference was like a card person but bigger and might have been 3 d as apposed to 2 d . And was a little more interested in what I was there for . So I found my way back to the same door and opened it and awoke back into the golfing part of the dream exactly the same except I knew was going to happen except I'd end up in my dream car instead of the building if stairs doors and card people . When I got in my car I headed the other way and found a particular sign I could read it said Illinois west Indiana east and that's all so I went and drove on till I was out of the tunnel . Then I was woke up by one of my friends . Talk about crazy and being lucid but exploring what the dream is taking you to . Lucidity of being a dream character with dream powers . Another kind of lucidity ?
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Lucid dreams involving a walk through a very mystical reality of ourselfs . What may be the reasoning for wanting to be an aware observer and or participant in our dreams ? Do some people try to obtain a lucid state to eliminate nightmares ? I've sure had some lucid dreams that where nightmares . It could be the way some dreams trap you and others seem to let you leave at well . I've noticed the dreams that let me leave them are pleasant . Some not all though ,and it seems the dream type may determine the powers of the lucid dreamer ? Not in many cases though as participating directly in a dream being fully aware I was in a dream I am sometimes able to become more of an outside lucid observer of my dreams . Don't try to manipulate your dream powers let them come to you will help to not awakening from the dream completely . What thoughts does anyone have on this
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I have had many lucid dreams, they aren't as good as mescaline flash backs in dreams. Flying means your nuts, according to dream interpts. I used to fly all the time, anytime I realized I was dreaming. I don't recall dreams all that much anymore. Seems to be bare bones dreams, just stuff to get by.
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: Morel Guy]
#19074746 - 11/02/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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not that i believe in dream interpretations. but who says flying means you're nuts? i did a quick google "meaning of flying in dreams" and found nothing about being nuts.
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: SurReality]
#19074777 - 11/02/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I read it somewhere so I took it personally, since I fly often in dreams. I don't know what it really means, other than that your flying. Dreams mean what they are, probably nothing more than just that.
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: Morel Guy]
#19074796 - 11/02/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yea i know its a very common dream, so that's why i don't believe it. i mean everyones a little crazy, but i wouldn't say your crazy unless it hinders your ability to be a happy/healthy person.
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: SurReality]
#19075618 - 11/02/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Art of Dreaming, by Carlos Castaneda.
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: SurReality]
#19078858 - 11/03/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SurReality said: yea i know its a very common dream, so that's why i don't believe it. i mean everyones a little crazy, but i wouldn't say your crazy unless it hinders your ability to be a happy/healthy person.
I think as long as we can navigate relationships with other people, and nature we are sane. Feeling elated as I usually feel when I fly, is not an issue. I don't totally agree with mental health, so called experts that want everyone to be robots. An exageration, but they don't want people feeling ecstasy.
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: Morel Guy]
#19078995 - 11/03/13 06:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm usually grounded if I become lucid. I jump high and fly when I am not conscious that I'm asleep.
I've even flown to other planets in space, but never while I was fully lucid.
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: mikeisapro]
#19081452 - 11/03/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I rarely remember my dreams but the other day I was talking to my lady about lucid dreaming. I mentioned that if I did it, I would give myself super powers. Sure enough, that night I was asleep and had a lucid dream experience.
I was using a urinal in a skyscraper and there was a mirror in front of my face. I saw that my beard was only a couple of inches long. After wondering when the hell my beard had cut, I realized it was a dream.
I immediately set out to shoot webbing like Spiderman but instead only sprayed out a tiny amount of fragments like when a silly string can is empty. I couldn't fly but I was able to grab the railing on a staircase and throw myself up to the next level. I did this for many floors but it was not easy. It really was hard work! I hope to have more experiences soon.
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yea flying is weird, its sort of like watching the new superman movie where he is learning but i never really get good at flying. basically just can jump really high and the higher i get the more out of control i become.
when you you jump normally and you can feel gravity pulling you back down and the feeling you have as your body adjusts from jumping up to falling down, its like i can control that feeling if that makes sense. from like when i keep my body stiff i continue go up.
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: SurReality]
#19083081 - 11/03/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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A technique you can practice to increase lucid dream frequency: throughout your days, look at your hands and ask yourself silently or out loud, "Am I dreaming?". Look at your hands and ask, then look at your surroundings, then back down at your hands. Then answer the question. Do this throughout the days with diligence and you will program your mind to ask this question randomly. You will in time find yourself asking this while you are actually dreaming, and you can imagine what happens next.
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i guess that looks less goofy than attempting to fly... but to be fair i have never been suspicious that i was dreaming unless i was actually dreaming, so i have never just randomly started jumping around trying to fly while awake.
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: SurReality]
#19084323 - 11/04/13 06:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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At times flying in dreams was just like swimming. I used to swim a lot, so I would air swim in my dreams.
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: Morel Guy]
#19088081 - 11/04/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is a balance to lucidity.
Get to excited, you wake up, get to dreamy, you'll forget its a dream again.
Took awhile for me to master flying because of this.
I would be like YES I'm dreaming! --take off flying and start almost waking up..than be like oh no, to much! forget, and than gravity would take over and I'd be jumping really really high instead of just flying...much like the hulk.
Also sex in a lucid dream feels just like the real thing, if not better.
Hulk smash.
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: hTx]
#19088454 - 11/05/13 02:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've flown . I seem to have some interesting lucid dreams . I use to use the asking myself if i was dreaming and looking around like posted above . I've also have noticed for me at least that about 2 to 5 mg of vitamin b6 or pyridoxine at bed time can realy help dreams become more vivid . In my dreams i remember at first trying to take big leaps as a dreamer . This would wake me up sometime I awake to find myself dreaming sometimes still in a lucid dream state . I've noticed that it's at first a struggle for many including myself . Just take time open doors . Try to think your self to another place in a dream . Talk with the people in your dreams learn from them and any thing you do in your path for what you seek.
Salvia she said to me to not be scared as She took me behind the scenes
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Re: Once in a lucid dream [Re: SurReality]
#19112918 - 11/10/13 12:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't look at your hands as a test, when you find your suspicions rising. You look at your hands to train your subconscious mind to perform this task automatically while dreaming, thus inducing a lucid dream.
The more you find and gaze at your hands in lucid dreaming the more solid your dreaming body, or double, becomes.
Gaze at your hands then gaze at an object in the dream, then back to your hands. Repeat this hands/object switch as many times as you can to both strengthen your dreaming attention span and also to strengthen your dreaming body.
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