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bodhisatta 
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18950845 - 10/08/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got the idea to just use my pp5 1/4 pints(with a similar to grain lid) as no-pour dishes because I've been using them for sterile PF cakes to use as "wedges" to inoculate grain jars with good success.
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bodhisatta said: I'm actually considering re-trying no pour petri's with my pp5 1/4 pint jars. They're not as deep as using the glass jars which makes cutting out sections and condensation a pain.
ha Havent tried it using agar yet only PF cakes in them.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
#18958412 - 10/10/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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10.10.13

man these things grow slow ha. I thought it was about 4-5 days for a mature fruit from a pin. My temps drop to about 65F at night though maybe that's slowing them down a bit. AA+ has always been a slow colonizer for me. I know a cube is a cube but in general I find it to be true.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
#18958627 - 10/10/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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How long until the creeper brick is ready?
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: blthirteenre]
#18958639 - 10/10/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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blthirteenre said: How long until the creeper brick is ready?
If I don't get contams from inoculating my grain jars with transfers in the SAB then probably 3 weeks or so(10 to colonize the rye, 10 to colonize the substrate give or take). I'm still waiting to see growth come off of the "wedges" from the viable strain creeper PF cake I used as inoculate for two grain jars.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: Sagescruffy]
#18959776 - 10/10/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sagescruffy said: I have some pics of my Mini monotubs, they are 16qt totes.
  
They were done at a 1:2 ratio with 2qts of spawn and 4 qts of bulk substrate (50/50 coir and vermiculite with a bit of gypsum)each. Substrate death was around 3 inches.
Scruffy do you need to take the lids off and fan every so often, or are holes that large with polyfill sufficient for fae?!
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: Mr.Sir]
#18962986 - 10/11/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
#18963176 - 10/11/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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good job; keep on keepin' on
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: Mr.Sir]
#18963217 - 10/11/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sagescruffy said: I have some pics of my Mini monotubs, they are 16qt totes.
  
They were done at a 1:2 ratio with 2qts of spawn and 4 qts of bulk substrate (50/50 coir and vermiculite with a bit of gypsum)each. Substrate death was around 3 inches.
Scruffy do you need to take the lids off and fan every so often, or are holes that large with polyfill sufficient for fae?!
With a monotub the aim is to not have to fan at all. You dial it in. How to dial in your monotubs like a boss I know his is smaller but the same principals apply.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
#18974454 - 10/13/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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10.12.13
  
10.13.13
 Just some of the ones I picked off today. About 130g wet.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
#18974526 - 10/13/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i have never seen aa+ before, those look very cool
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: blthirteenre]
#18974578 - 10/13/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea, I like AA quite a bit. I know the cube is a cube thing but since AA is a perpetuated mutant I think that's why I get such slow colonization times vs the average with any other cube. Potency is there though in every MS grow I have done with them and of course from clone tissue. I've never really had a bunk grow though as far as potency. You would think those stems are hollow but they're pretty meaty they're a tiny bit hollow right in the middle but the biggest fruit I plucked today was 18g wet. I'm sure I'll be getting some monsters on the second flush.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#18975310 - 10/14/13 05:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Yea, I like AA quite a bit. I know the cube is a cube thing but since AA is a perpetuated mutant I think that's why I get such slow colonization times vs the average with any other cube.
AA is not known to be a slow colonizer.
There is no one variety of cube that is known to colonize faster or slower than any other variety.
This is because there is no way to predict what genetics will come up.
This is why we isolate single strains on agar, and keep the best performers.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: PussyFart] 1
#18975845 - 10/14/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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bodhisatta said: Yea, I like AA quite a bit. I know the cube is a cube thing but since AA is a perpetuated mutant I think that's why I get such slow colonization times vs the average with any other cube.
AA is not known to be a slow colonizer.
There is no one variety of cube that is known to colonize faster or slower than any other variety.
This is because there is no way to predict what genetics will come up.
This is why we isolate single strains on agar, and keep the best performers.
I know. but with that said AA+ has always taken longer for me. I don't have an isolate only clones ATM but even with that the colonization times are longer than any MS or Clone grow with any other cube and that's just my experience. After that many trials and it always being slower IDK it has the genes to almost always be luistic so there's inevitably some genetic difference in its linage.
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This is because there is no way to predict what genetics will come up.
except we can predict albino or luistic variety will show that trait the vast majority of the time. This obviously means the protein(s) that encode for pigmentation are missing which might effect other processes in a biological cascade. Think about being born without the FMRP gene you're not only going to be retarded but also you'll have a weird bone structure because it plays two roles. I don't know enough about genes in mushrooms to say anything about it but I'm very aware of the current opinion in strain discussion here.
So I really don't know but I'll try to isolate a AA+ strain that colonizes as fast as any MS grow of any other variety.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
#18978629 - 10/14/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I ended up pulling almost everything off the first flush came in at 25 dry grams. I only left pins and very small shrooms. Almost no aborts which was cool. I'll post pics again when the second flush matures.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
#19009205 - 10/21/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry no good pics of the second flush. Didn't have the camera around. Lots of huge fruits. The second flush was 230G wet drying now. The first flush all together came out to 31g dried. I'll call it the first and a half flush since there were some that came in before what I would call the second. So a little over an ounce dry from the first flush(even though I said 25 in the last post I got a few more off) and then 230g wet from the second flush.
lots of fuzzy feet on the second flush. I Imagine it's not lack of FAE since nothing has changed in the fruiting chamber or room that it's in. And never having got fuzzy feet before.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
#19012716 - 10/22/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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congrats! how was the speed of the second flush?
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: blthirteenre]
#19013025 - 10/22/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pretty quick. About 5-6 days. I feel bad that I couldn't get a good picture of them.
I just dunked the whole brick for 15 hours and put it back in. It ate through two layers of tin foil since I had originally put it in. Didn't break the brick at all dunking it. Let's see what the third flush can do. No sign of contams yet but it does have what I believe to be metabolites showing up. Slightly yellow on the sides. I'll take a picture when some pins come or if it fails.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
#19013189 - 10/22/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes, i have experienced the brick becoming yellow at some points from metabolites that ended being a contamination. pay close attention.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: blthirteenre]
#19013222 - 10/22/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I figure it will contam out. If I'm seeing metabolites surely it's fighting the inevitable off.
I'm going to go take a look at my petri plates and grain jars of creeper. If there's anything worth taking a picture of I'll have it here in a little while.
Speaking of a little while and contamination
 
I'm pretty sure this is cobweb over-running cube myc since it's the only one with growth that far away from the center. This was a Pin to agar attempt. I dipped the pin in h2o2 full strength for 10minutes while my SAB was getting still. At least this is the only dish with contams as far as I can tell.
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Re: Mini monotub opinions needed [Re: bodhisatta]
#19051966 - 10/29/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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