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Re: Powdered Mescaline [Re: BWza]
    #19033950 - 10/26/13 01:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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so the 2c's are actually stronger? really?




At all about the position of the hydroxy groups (R-O-CH3) going from 3,4,5 on mescaline to 2,4,5 in 2C-E. This make the compound non-symmetrical and as each molecule in any compund as protons (positive charge) and neutron (no charge) with much smaller electrons (negative charge).

Mescaline (Dose 400mg)


2C-D (Dose 16mg)


As you see from 2C-D all the different 2C's come from changing the hydroxy group on the 3 position. Alex Slugin who synthesized this first tried changing the other positions but had little effect.

If you then look at the NBOMes, then are even more position by just making the compound longer which I think thanks it have more charge disparity (temporary dipole):

25C-NBOMe (Dose 0.5mg)


As you can see we have gone from a relatively safe powder to one that is extremely harder to dose, with way more change of people OD, as NBOMes have the potention to inject 30-100x the dose due to people not know how to handle/what substance they have.



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Re: Powdered Mescaline *DELETED* [Re: BWza]
    #19035586 - 10/26/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Powdered Mescaline [Re: Fluffhead25]
    #19051048 - 10/29/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

so my friend ended up making enough formosahuasca for 4 people. we all began to drink it and of course it did turn into a huge puke party at first. lol. but once we all got settled in we had an overall extremely honest and bonding night. so in the midst of the bonding i snuck away and took two caps of mescaline and omg within 10 mins that shit kicked in and i was lunched into a world i had never before experienced. i felt like an native american warrior for most the night. saw crazy paintings all over my body. couldnt stand being in light because thats when the colors and trails became unbearable. literally went to piss and cut the light on and immediately got sick. started puking like crazy. but to my shock i cut the light off and realize that its not about the visuals. its all about whats going on inside. even though when you start thinking too much the visuals do help to to forget about things a little if you choose to focus on them. but all in all i will never take mescaline that late at night ever again because that shit lasted 4EVER!! oh and it was my g\f's first time drinkin the aya and i swear it brough me and her so close that im afraid i will never have a bond like that with another woman as long as i live but hopefully this one sticks with me for a while. i do love her. not that fake kind of love either. but that real dimethyltriptamine kind of love. lol. all the magic is there. but yeah just wanted to let you guys know how it went. and honestly it kinda made me realize that i will not be able to trip again for a long time because i got a few goals i need to complete before i ask for further guidance from the allies. and i could go on and on and on about every little thing i went thru that night but most of you already got a great idea of what goes on. but the one thing i did notice about DMT is that it truly does make everyone smarter. my thoughts and my girls thoughts were almomst dancing with one another all night. i could tell a story i completely made up but i made it up to try and get a point across to her and she would totally get it everytime. she passed my tests and im proud of her for handling the change sooo well. much love guys.


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Re: Powdered Mescaline [Re: BWza]
    #19051307 - 10/29/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If it kicked in in 10 minutes, it was not mescaline. I'm glad to hear you had such a great experience though.


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Re: Powdered Mescaline [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19051432 - 10/29/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah i dont think it was real mesc either but definitely a phenotype


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