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    #19049858 - 10/29/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

with the advent of the end of breaking bad, this has got to be the best running show on television.  ive been watching since season one.  i suspect that the only reason it is not as raved about is because it is on HBO.  anyone else in love with this show?  i searched threads about it and the last post was in 2012.  unacceptable!  lol.  hopefully by stirring the pot i can find other fellow Boardwalk Empire fans and we can maybe shoot the shit about it.  Richard Harrow is so awesome.  I miss Jimmy, and was suprised how the show carries on, even as lead characters die off like flys.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19049926 - 10/29/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yea its definitely on my top 5 for sure!


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19049943 - 10/29/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I miss Jimmy, and was suprised how the show carries on, even as lead characters die off like flys.



Ya the show is very ballsy in that sense. Aint no soap opera. Ultimately its about Nucky. Everyone else is expendable.

I'm excited to see how Capone keeps developing. Seems like he just reached a serious turning point deeper into the abyss.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: The_Ghost]
    #19049948 - 10/29/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I wish I could get more into television. I think it's a great show, but I just have issues committing to tv dramas.

On the otherhand, the opening credits are performed by a fucking GREAT band called the Brian Jonestown Massacre that eeeveryone should totally check out!



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    #19049969 - 10/29/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i love the way they incorporate feedback into the music.  not sure if your into the grateful dead, but they were really big on incorporating and fine tuning feedback in alot of their jams.  and, well, we all know, Jimmy Hendrix was King at it.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: The_Ghost]
    #19050015 - 10/29/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ya the show is very ballsy in that sense. Aint no soap opera. Ultimately its about Nucky. Everyone else is expendable.




Hell yeah, if there is one thing I know about Boardwalk Empire it's this. Chalky's fight scene this week was fucking crazy. When he put that piece of wood through the guys cheek what the fuck that was crazy it was so intense.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19050417 - 10/29/13 04:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

boardwalk is a top quality show, its masterfully produced. the screen play is great. the mark of a good piece of film is one that can tell parts of the story, or portray messages into your mind without the use of words, and boardwalk is really great at doing that.


you have to watch what is being placed on screen, what the tone of the scene is, and think about it in terms of the current situation or what is about to happen. it gives alot of clues or foreshadows alot of things.


its a really great show. but i hate how they always kill all the best characters!!!!


also, i think season 4, with the exception of the most recent episode has been the worst season so far. s1-2-3 were great. maybe season 4 is still building i dunno.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: pirate-blues]
    #19050424 - 10/29/13 04:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I wish I could get more into television. I think it's a great show, but I just have issues committing to tv dramas.





same. i can never follow through with finishing them, and i love drama... but i usually get my fill with movies, then TV shows.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19050523 - 10/29/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So glad there is barely any Margret this season. I hate that lady so much, with her ignorance and stupid accent. :crankey:


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    #19050546 - 10/29/13 06:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:ilold: i just had to LOL because "that stupid bitch" is always the same reason for hating on a lady character and plus bad accent. boy, what a bitch. total bitch. hate her. kill her off!1


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19050572 - 10/29/13 06:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The show used to be good, but last season was meh and this season sucks balls so far.

They should change the name to Boredwalk Empire.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19050580 - 10/29/13 06:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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:ilold: i just had to LOL because "that stupid bitch" is always the same reason for hating on a lady character and plus bad accent. boy, what a bitch. total bitch. hate her. kill her off!1




I see you are trying to suggest that I hate her because she's a female. If you actually watched the show, you would at the very least understand where I'm coming from.

It has nothing to do with the fact that's she's a lady, it has everything to do with the fact that it's a show about gangsters and there has to be some stupid christian irish lady that the main character falls in love with. She makes a lot of dumb decisions, and her morals piss me off.

And when it's all said and done, she isn't a historically accurate figure, but a combination of two women from the real life of Nucky Thompson.

There is another female in the show with an accent who I happen to love (Van Alden's woman).


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Everlong]
    #19050596 - 10/29/13 06:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

She is one of my favorite characters.  She, Michael Shannon, and Jack Huston, were the best parts of the show...and now all of them have been marginalized into oblivion.

The show sucks now.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Everlong]
    #19050603 - 10/29/13 06:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

no, i literally meant what i said, and i wasn't hinting at anything. literally, the only reason to wish that a lady character was killed off, is almost always, "because she's a stupid bitch".

TV should make some female characters that aren't completely flat. (LOL not in THAT way obviously)

but, you know, you make a good argument for me to actually watch the show and maybe be proven wrong about this whole "theory".

i mean, i know afterall, that this show is wicked. i thought it looked awesome, ever since i saw a commercial and saw Steve Buscemi playing the lead.

but i still haven't watched it yet. i even had Season 1, but i never checked it out and then recently i had to transfer all my shit to a removable HD and i got rid alot of the movies and shows i had so i could fit everything. :shrug:

PS: i didn't really read your post yet. i'll do that now.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Enlil]
    #19050604 - 10/29/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Breaking bad is mentioned in like every 5th thread in the pube. :noyoudidawet:


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19050620 - 10/29/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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She is one of my favorite characters.  She, Michael Shannon, and Jack Huston, were the best parts of the show...and now all of them have been marginalized into oblivion.

The show sucks now.




That's funny, you make fun of the show for getting boring when it lost one of the most boring characters. She's as dull as a butter knife, I could not give a single fuck what was going on with her.

Michael Shannon's character isn't as prominent (They have too many different story lines going on), but I find his character's dive into a gangster quite entertaining.

Harrow has been getting decent air time this season, minus the last couple of episodes.

Basically I have no idea what you are talking about.

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no, i literally meant what i said, and i wasn't hinting at anything. literally, the only reason to wish that a lady character was killed off, is almost always, "because she's a stupid bitch".

TV should make some female characters that aren't completely flat. (LOL not in THAT way obviously)

but, you know, you make a good argument for me to actually watch the show and maybe be proven wrong about this whole "theory".

i mean, i know afterall, that this show is wicked. i thought it looked awesome, ever since i saw a commercial and saw Steve Buscemi playing the lead.

but i still haven't watched it yet. i even had Season 1, but i never checked it out and then recently i had to transfer all my shit to a removable HD and i got rid alot of the movies and shows i had so i could fit everything. :shrug:

PS: i didn't really read your post yet. i'll do that now.




I just assumed you were implying that men always dislike female characters in films/tv shows for stupid reasons, even re-reading what you wrote it still comes across that way.

I told you before: You recommended House Of Cards which I enjoyed, but I got to say Boardwalk is better (in my opinion obviously).


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Everlong]
    #19050644 - 10/29/13 06:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

oh yeah, House of Cards is too dry. i never finished it, even if it was pretty decent. it's probably not as interesting a subject as gangsters.

PS: not men. not just men. anyone can hate female leads. THAT was more along the lines of what i was getting at. :lol:


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Everlong]
    #19050654 - 10/29/13 06:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You're out of your mind, dude...Nucky is boring without Margaret.  Margaret created the tension between Nucky the gangster and Nucky the human...now he's just one-dimensional.  He's like Tony Soprano without Carmella.

Mad Men pulled the same shit when they got divorced.  Without Betty, Don had no reason to sneak and lie like he used to...his whole character became boring as fuck.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19050656 - 10/29/13 06:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I was a big fan of The Wire, so Chalky is one of my favorite characters. He even has the same scar as Omar Little...:yesnod:


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    #19050665 - 10/29/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

oh it's good to know everything's still the same.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Enlil]
    #19050702 - 10/29/13 06:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You're out of your mind, dude...Nucky is boring without Margaret.  Margaret created the tension between Nucky the gangster and Nucky the human...now he's just one-dimensional.  He's like Tony Soprano without Carmella.



I disagree. All she did was stop any possible excitement. Without her Nucky can do as he pleases. Remember the scene where they bust the kid stealing their booze? That's character growth.

I can say he still "battles his two sides" without shitty Margaret. For example, dealing with the death of his assistant, realizing he knew nothing about the guy's personal life.

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Mad Men pulled the same shit when they got divorced.  Without Betty, Don had no reason to sneak and lie like he used to...his whole character became boring as fuck.



I tried to like Mad Men but I couldn't. Too pretentious, made it about 5-6 episodes in before I realized I would never be that interested.

I also hate the main female character in that show, they couldn't of given that woman a worse haircut.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Everlong]
    #19050707 - 10/29/13 06:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I now know not to trust any recommendations from you as far as entertainment goes.  I'm sure you hated Skylar, too.



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    #19050714 - 10/29/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

LOL Skylar; what a bitch!1


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    #19050724 - 10/29/13 06:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm sure you hated Skylar, too.





Yes and no, if that makes any sense.

Is it so wrong to want to watch a main character develop without some character purely designed to hinder them?


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Everlong]
    #19050732 - 10/29/13 07:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Is it so wrong to want to watch a main character develop without some character purely designed to hinder them?



Without obstacles, there is no conflict.  Without conflict, there is no drama.

This is all theatre 101, holmes.  You're SUPPOSED to dislike the antagonist, so it's working...but without the antagonist, there is no story.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Enlil]
    #19050742 - 10/29/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

this is why TV shows are... the way they are... :shrug: flat and pivotal, all at once.


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    #19050751 - 10/29/13 07:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Is it so wrong to want to watch a main character develop without some character purely designed to hinder them?



Without obstacles, there is no conflict.  Without conflict, there is no drama.

This is all theatre 101, holmes.  You're SUPPOSED to dislike the antagonist, so it's working...but without the antagonist, there is no story.



There are plenty of other antagonists/conflicts/drama in both Boardwalk and Breaking Bad besides the shitty female leads.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Everlong]
    #19050754 - 10/29/13 07:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think Akira hit it on the head.  You only seem to have a problem with female antagonists.  Do they remind you of female antagonists in your life, maybe?


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    #19050764 - 10/29/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

they're goddamn nuisances and obstacles!1 :curbyourenthusiasm:


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    #19050786 - 10/29/13 07:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I think Akira hit it on the head.  You only seem to have a problem with female antagonists.  Do they remind you of female antagonists in your life, maybe?



Nope. I have no problem with any other females in Boardwalk Empire, nor did I have a problem with any of the females in Breaking Bad, minus Marie (and obviously skylar like I said before). I'm not in some minority, in fact a large percentage of fans of both shows feel the same way as I do.

In House of Cards I thoroughly enjoyed both female leads.

I finished Hell On Wheels the other day, liked every female in that show, too.


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    #19050819 - 10/29/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

well, antagonists antagonize. you're supposed to be antagonized by them, that drives the story. the protagonist aren't hindered, they essentially "set up", right?


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    #19050839 - 10/29/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Who didn't hate Skylar's cheating ass?


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    #19050846 - 10/29/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That's the point, you're supposed to hate her.  That's very different than not wanting her on the show, though.  Without her, it would be a show about an old dude becoming a criminal.  With her, it is about a normal family man "breaking bad" to help his family and eventually getting transformed into a monster.


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    #19050849 - 10/29/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:spock: correct.


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    #19051318 - 10/29/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't like Margaret at all, find her pretty annoying. It's more her writing (I feel) than her acting. I'm glad her and the kids have been gone almost every episode. And go figure the one they are in is the most boring episode of the season so far. I have absolutely no interest in Jimmy's Mom's-Piggly Wiggly guy plot. I want more Al Capone, right now. As far as women in the show that blonde lady with huge tits seems alright but she just might be mesmerizing me with her huge tits. They are really big.

I agree last season was boring until the badass ending, but this season has been great besides maybe one episode I didn't like too much. Also I don't really agree with how they handled Eddie that guy was a great actor and he just started developing as a character. Kinda bullshit how he went out, even though the scene was really well shot I don't think his character should have broke so easily.

I enjoy the FBI angle this season, too. The actor who plays that lead FBI guy is pretty intense. Also gonna miss that crazy ass gold-tooth'd motherfucker who got stabbed in the back last episode. He was a fucking crazy good actor menacing and intimidating in every scene he was in since his introduction.



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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: gzuf]
    #19051785 - 10/29/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

One of the things I like most about boardwalk empire, is that the show has a loooong way to go. If your familiar with the The mob story of luciano and al Capone, you realise that there is some monumental shot that is going to happen, and they're must be plenty more seasons in store for the future.

I just hope scorsesee can keep the same level of quality throughout the series. I dont want to say the show is slipping, but the past season has been fairly lacklustre in my opinion. Hopefully it's just escalating towards something bog, but ehh.

The characters are great in boardwalk though. They're all very diverse and distinct, and there is alot of interesting and strong personalities. But it's like fuck man, stop killing all the good characters! They can't just keep introducing new characters every season without losing the senserity of the show.

I guess they kill key characters on purpose to shock the audience and evoke a response, which is cool.... But I mean, season 1-2 was based heavily around jimmy IMO and they ducking killed him. I almost quit the show when that happened because it was like well wtfs the point now.

I think nucky will die soon just because I've never really heard his name mentioned outside the show. And then the show will obviously take more of a focus on Capone, luciano and the birth of the mafia.


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    #19051934 - 10/29/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Was putting a big spoiler like that about Jimmy necessary in your first post? I was only on season 1. :mad:

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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #19052442 - 10/29/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry dude my bad. I assumed only people who are up to date with the show would read the thread :\


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Soulidarity]
    #19052539 - 10/29/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Game of thrones!! Hard to get into, but once you do it's fucking awesome! Homeland, boardwalk, and shameless are good too


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    #19053065 - 10/29/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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That's the point, you're supposed to hate her.  That's very different than not wanting her on the show, though.  Without her, it would be a show about an old dude becoming a criminal.  With her, it is about a normal family man "breaking bad" to help his family and eventually getting transformed into a monster.



I understand the point you are trying to make, but it doesn't change my opinion. They could of killed of skylar early in the series and I wouldn't of cared. Like I said, I didn't have the same issues with other protagonists, including Jane who I found quite lulzy with her drug addict logic.

Does it bother you so much that I don't like some shitty female antagonists in two TV shows? :lol:

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I don't like Margaret at all, find her pretty annoying. It's more her writing (I feel) than her acting. I'm glad her and the kids have been gone almost every episode. And go figure the one they are in is the most boring episode of the season so far. I have absolutely no interest in Jimmy's Mom's-Piggly Wiggly guy plot. I want more Al Capone, right now. As far as women in the show that blonde lady with huge tits seems alright but she just might be mesmerizing me with her huge tits. They are really big.





Nah brah you just don't get it, you don't get basic story structure we need overly annoying female protagonists or else these shows won't work! :rolleyes: :lol:

I'm glad someone agrees with me. :highfive:

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I think nucky will die soon just because I've never really heard his name mentioned outside the show. And then the show will obviously take more of a focus on Capone, luciano and the birth of the mafia.




If you did a quick google search (Like I did when I started watching the show), you'd find out the real Nucky lived a long life and I think died of old age.

So no, he will never be killed off.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Soulidarity]
    #19053070 - 10/29/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry dude my bad. I assumed only people who are up to date with the show would read the thread :\



I forgive you :hug:


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: mushroom_sandwich]
    #19053221 - 10/29/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This season has been boring as hell.  Hopefully they made every episode as good as the last one because this season seems like a big build up to nothing.  I don't understand how people are hating on last season (season 3).  After Jimmy's death, I thought the show was going to go immediately down hill, but last season was amazing.  Gyp Rosetti was incredible, and literally every episode was mesmerizing.  This season, dare I say, the episodes are nearly unwatchable, and certainly not worth a second watch, besides last episode.  I was really hoping Dunn Pernsley would have been around longer.  Fantastic fight scene though.  So let's hope this season really picks up from here...


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Makaveli]
    #19055138 - 10/29/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I hope this season gets crazy. They need to focus more on Capone and fucking Van Alden, that is the key. And show me Nucky, being a fucking badass. That's all I want, that's all I ask for.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19055178 - 10/29/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I like it, but it has a bit too much character development and not enough action.  Some episodes almost put me to sleep.  I don't think the characters are that interesting to have entire episodes dedicated to them talking to each other.  Its not like House of Cards were the characters are so interesting you actually want to see how they think, though I do think Steve Buscemi is great in it.  If I ever watch it again I would skip a few episodes entirely.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: fapjack]
    #19055254 - 10/30/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I need to check out House of Cards I hear it's great. I like political drama shiets.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: gzuf]
    #19056098 - 10/30/13 03:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

now i am gonna start watching House of Cards again, all this talk of it made me remember how good it was.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19056504 - 10/30/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The acting in it is top notch, as is the story line.  I think it is better than breaking bad in a lot of ways.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: fapjack]
    #19056649 - 10/30/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

me too. i just watched a couple episodes, and even after taking a pretty long break from the show, it still sucked me right in. it's an incredibly real show; and Spacey is awesome in it. everytime he starts talking to the camera, it's quite brilliant... he'll just like have a quick look like "yeah, that's how it is.

the expose of all the facets of trying to accomplish the "win" they aim for is great. the scenes between Spacey and his wife are frenetic and yet at the time very bourgeois and subtle; and the connections between the characters are very dignified.

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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19117558 - 11/10/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

how did yall like tonite ep?


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19121041 - 11/11/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's a real good show, but it is weird the way they kill all the physically attractive characters. They kill Jimmy Darmody, his wife and that lady she was hanging with. So Gretchen Moll is left and attractive, but she is such a pervert and creep. They killed the young guy from Ireland that Margaret liked, and I'm not sure if they still show his hot girlfriend, the maid.
    Margaret was appealing in every movie I saw her in: Trainspotting, No Country for Old Men, and some indie movie with a sexual theme. Not any more. The Rolling Stone review called her Prissy McFrowny.

    Gyp Rossetti was a compelling character, but their uglying up this show too much. Van Alden and the war veteran Richard are good characters, but you know what I'm saying.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Brian Jones]
    #19121066 - 11/11/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can't wait for next week's episode, seems like this episode was building up for it.  :idhitit:

Would love to see what could happen with Richard and Chalky teaming up.

Also, I just have to comment on the actor who plays Eli. I think he does an excellent job of acting disgusted and uncomfortable, he always has this look on his face that makes me chuckle. :lol:


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