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Re: ID. P. Subbs central coast california [Re: Byrain]
    #19049711 - 10/28/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If it makes you feel better, I have found both, and found that apparent foenisecii which have brown/red stipes, or white stipes which turn distinctly brown-red when handled (when the minute fibrils brush off or crush down) have black spores and are probably P. cinctulus.




You have it backwards, both Panaeolus and Panaeolina have the white fibrils on the stem because of the caulocystidia, but Panaeolus species around P. cinctulus often have reddish stems so these fibrils are much more visible while Panaeolina have much lighter stems that stain a light brownish color so they are quite so visible.

Everything in this find, the deep brown rather than black gills in maturity, the light non reddish stems, the non-zonate immature caps, the clearly brown spores points away from P. cinctulus and towards Panaeolina. 

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The stipes are classic of Pan. cinctulus. There's no harm in the mistake if I'm wrong, but I bet my nut I'm not.




So, who are you going to send your nut out to? isic? :smile2:




Lol, well canid can keep it... I already have 2!

Really though, I was actually hoping I was wrong and that the mushies I have been finding were subbs as well.  :shrug:


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Re: ID. P. Subbs central coast california [Re: isic]
    #19049727 - 10/28/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nah; looks like I just fooled myself and tried to take y'all with me.


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