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Stones before fruits?
    #19049050 - 10/28/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a little p galindoi tub that I put into fruiting conditions 9 days ago. Spawn run was damn fast and the casing was colonized quick. No sign of pins yet and the mycelium continued to colonize the casing a little more than I planned on. I'm now seeing parts of the casing and sub rising up and it almost looks like stones are forming in there, which seems kinda fast to me. Is it normal to see stones forming before fruits? Could early stone formation be an indicator of maybe too low of FAE or RH? The tub I have these in provides lots of FAE as far as cubes are concerned, but maybe its not enough :shrug: Are these known to be slow to pin? To anyone with experience with this species your input/experiences are welcome.

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Re: Stones before fruits? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19096804 - 11/06/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well its been a while and still no pins. The mycelium continues to colonize the casing, its almost all colonized now. A new development is large cracks appearing in the sub and lots of metabolites being produced. I am pretty confident that it is not contamed; the mycelium colonizing the casing is moving very slow and does not look like any mold I ever saw. The cracks appear to be large stones pushing up and disrupting things. I did notice that many of the stones would produce metabolites invitro, so I'm pretty sure that the large stones developing and cracking the sub are the source of the metabolites I'm seeing on the surface. Everything smells alright to me.

Is it possible that I just did too many transfers when cleaning up my culture before inoculation and thus my limited genetics may just be too predisposed to producing stones? Or is it too early to expect pins at 2.5 weeks? Should I apply another casing layer, as this one is pretty much colonized? Any informed advice is welcome.

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Re: Stones before fruits? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19098179 - 11/06/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Make sure they have lots of FAE, take out the top polyfil or put a loose bunch in there. You have to let your casing dry out in order to get these to fruit then mist as necessary. Good luck mate


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Re: Stones before fruits? [Re: botanicalbishop]
    #19098928 - 11/07/13 03:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yep these are tricky to get to fruit.


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Re: Stones before fruits? [Re: Giggle_Grower]
    #19098978 - 11/07/13 04:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Looking at your box I might suggest using more holes in your tub, but in smaller diameter.  When I drilled holes in my tubs I put  holes in this way.

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In my crazy head I believe the top holes will allow you to push the lower density of the outside air into the chamber, also allowing you to  control the humidity a little better.

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Re: Stones before fruits? [Re: Mycowlogist]
    #19098984 - 11/07/13 04:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The only stones I have ever flowered took about 2 months.  Which were spent in an old flower pot with old soil.  After many rains, and some digging by a psychonaut squirrel that found the trippiest potatoes ever!  The stones finally fruited.  So just keep doing what you are doing.  If anything you are going to have some large stones!


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Re: Stones before fruits? [Re: Mycowlogist]
    #19099876 - 11/07/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Your tub design isn't the best, but it'll work.

How long has it been since casing? These can easily take a couple weeks before you see pins, especially from MS.

They're really not any harder than Cubensis. Whoever said you have to let your casing dry out is full of shit. I mist mine twice a day or so, but I do leave the top holes open and there's a fan on low oscillating in the room.

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Re: Stones before fruits? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19099989 - 11/07/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Instead of big holes on top I have 5 1/4 inch holes drilled close together. I find that for a tub this small it works better than a 1.75" hole with poly, I've used it for cubes many times and they like it just fine, it just needs a bit more maintenance than a regular mono. The sub is only 2 quarts spawn and 4 quarts sub. Its been 19 days since I put into fruiting. I haven't had my fan going as winter is here and the heat has been running a lot, so I get a lot of air circulation without a fan. I do have a bunch of traditional 66qt monos going in pretty soon, so I will probably bring the fan back.

I just reread professor pinheads log on a new Mexicana variety he is working on and his first sub took 35 days to see pins, so maybe I'm being inpatient. Thanks for the responses.


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Re: Stones before fruits? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19100089 - 11/07/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, don't let it dry out.


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