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villui
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pinning question
#19047171 - 10/28/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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How long do cakes take to pin.. my Puerto Ricans r like 4 days in the chamber and nada yet
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Sagescruffy
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Re: pinning question [Re: villui]
#19047274 - 10/28/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is a hobby that tests your patience. As long as you followed procedure closely and continue to do so, results will come.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: pinning question [Re: villui]
#19047293 - 10/28/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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1-14 days on average
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PussyFart
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bodhisatta said: 1-14 days on average

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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT! A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD, SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List, EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE *** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
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saralove



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Re: pinning question [Re: villui]
#19047510 - 10/28/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by saralove (09/08/16 01:04 AM)
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PussyFart
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Re: pinning question [Re: saralove]
#19047570 - 10/28/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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That tek is awful for noobs....
Calling spawn and substrates casings, incubating at 84F, cold shocking, temp drop, 12-16 hours of light.....
It all sounds outdated to me.....I definitely would not recommend that to a noob to read.
All it will do is confuse them and provide them with bad info.
Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.
Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.
You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.
You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.
Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.
Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.
The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.
Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.
...................................................... Mycelium should be exposed to ambient room light from day of inoculation as has been known for many years. Light is not a pinning trigger until after full colonization and an increase in air is given, and even then it's a secondary pinning trigger. RR ......................................................
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RogerRabbit said: One more thing:
You guys seriously need to stop referring to your substrate trays as 'casings'. That is an incorrect term unless all you have is a casing layer and no manure, grains, or anything. Nobody grows mushrooms on 'casings', period.
The casing layer is only the top layer on a colonized bulk substrate, nothing else. 'Casing' sure as hell isn't a name for a mushroom growing project. RR
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT! A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD, SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List, EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE *** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
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saralove



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Re: pinning question [Re: PussyFart]
#19047870 - 10/28/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by saralove (09/08/16 01:04 AM)
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