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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19186593 - 11/25/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I've never seen or done kratom.

Your the one who went on a wild tangent about the beauty of the substances your family is concerned about you using. I say if no one can tell the difference then who cares. Take er easy.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Memories]
    #19186594 - 11/25/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Read your first post, do you think that's something a normal person would say? I don't believe you're good looking either unless I saw a pic. You just don't see how obvious it is. If you read your first post and you think that its something a normal person would say then everything you say is not able to be taken seriously..




Ya, everyone should be more normal like chowder...

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I noticed that the feeling from mxe is better when you refrain from masturbating a day or two before, a few times when I masturbated before usage I got this WEIRD look in my eyes and it caused me to not be able to have eye contact with people, my eyes were more squinted and my face looked more puffy, but without masterbating that day or the day before I felt great, it actually felt somewhat like a different drug.

Anyone notice this?



-chowder963



I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who thought of finding a crazy chowder post :ilold:


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Enlil]
    #19186602 - 11/25/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've limited experience with meth users, but I have a ton of experience with heroin users.  I kinda feel the same way about heroin that you feel about meth.  It's something that I wish we could uninvent.  It is so efficient at taking every single thing a person ever had including possessions, loved ones, and skills.  Finally, it takes your life.

Drugs like those are the reason that I can't get behind the whole "legalize everything" argument.  Those arguments are always based on some absolute notion of freedom with respect to one's body...which I generally agree with.  On the other hand, anyone who's ever dealt with an addict knows that addiction is the antithesis of any rational notion of "freedom."




i agree with you (and moonshoe) in so far as meth and heroin being highly destructive, terrible drugs. but i think it's obvious that locking up our addicts is by no means a solution to the problem. legalization in and of itself may not solve the problem of addiction, but it could certainly open pathways for dramatically increased survival rates for addicts by allowing them access to safe ways to acquire drugs that are safely made as well as removing the stigma that keeps addicts in the dark that often leads to their demise. drug addiction is a health issue rather than a legal issue.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Chowder963]
    #19186608 - 11/25/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I never claimed to be normal nor do I want to be. Who said anything about me being good looking? The reality is I am extraordinarily good looking, like remarkably beautiful , but I don't remember saying anything about that and it's strange you brought it up . Of course I couldn't care less what you believe .
No I'm not normal. Normal means average . I am far above average in almost every desirable quality.

I realize that sounds arrogant but it's an objective self assessment. I have no idea why I ended up so fortunate but for some reason I ended up an outlier in almost all positive qualities . Just good luck I guess. I'm not great at math though, and certain aspects of my memory are weak while others are very strong.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: millzy]
    #19186613 - 11/25/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think anyone in this thread is advocating locking up drug users.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19186627 - 11/25/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Post a pic lol, lets see how lucky your god given looks are.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Chowder963]
    #19186655 - 11/25/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I value what anonymity I have on the shroomery. I don't care what you believe so I have no incentive to post pictures of my six foot 3 body, my rock hard abs, my chiselled muscles, my angelic face or my gigantic penis.

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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19186664 - 11/25/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well this thread went full retard.:crazy2:


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Enlil]
    #19186669 - 11/25/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't think anyone in this thread is advocating locking up drug users.




nevertheless, that's what prohibition does. prohibition also makes being an addict more dangerous in that it forces addicts to buy in what are often high crime areas as well as subjecting them to impurities in product and dramatically increases the spread of diseases caused by iv usage. prohibition stigmatizes addicts. i lost a life long friend to heroin when i was 22, and i think a big part of the problem is that he didn't feel safe in going to his doctor about his problem, who had a "scare 'em straight" attitude and would order unnecessary measures in order to make his er visits uncomfortable in order to "teach him a lesson". not only is this practice by healthcare workers unethical (and tragically common), but it is also criminal in my view, and i hold my friend's doctor as partially responsible for his death. stigmatization feeds into this mentality in no small way, which is fed by prohibition. ending prohibition will open avenues for real solutions to society's intransigent problem of drug addiction.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: millzy]
    #19186676 - 11/25/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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nevertheless, that's what prohibition does.



In it's current form, but it doesn't have to.  There's no reason that drug possession should be a crime, but it can still be illegal without being a crime.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Enlil]
    #19186687 - 11/25/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So you advocate decriminalization but not legalization. I think I agree with that position.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19186702 - 11/25/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:rofl:

See dude certain people can see how you really are its just there's to of dull people online who just believe what people say.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19186703 - 11/25/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I just don't want to see heroin manufacturers advertising and competing for business, and that is inevitable if it is fully legalized.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Enlil]
    #19186713 - 11/25/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I just don't want to see heroin manufacturers advertising and competing for business, and that is inevitable if it is fully legalized.



No, they could make it illegal to advertise for, which they would do if it was legalized.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Enlil]
    #19186719 - 11/25/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I just don't want to see heroin manufacturers advertising and competing for business, and that is inevitable if it is fully legalized.




yeah because nobody knows about heroin now.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Chowder963]
    #19186720 - 11/25/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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:rofl:

See dude certain people can see how you really are its just there's to of dull people online who just believe what people say.



It isn't about believing or not believing.  Anyone with eyes can see that the guy's megalomania is compensating for an insecurity, but most people are mature and considerate enough not to rub it in his face.

I submit that your need to attack him where he is obviously most vulnerable is an attempt to counter your own insecurities by attacking his.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: millzy]
    #19186725 - 11/25/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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No, they could make it illegal to advertise for, which they would do if it was legalized.



How?  Do you know of a loophole in the first amendment?

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yeah because nobody knows about heroin now.



Of course they do.  I don't think anyone except the manufacturers is served by having celebrities tell the public how cool and wonderful heroin is to use, though.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Enlil]
    #19186744 - 11/25/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

we already have celebrities telling the public how cool drugs are to use, including heroin. we live in the world that you're trying to stave off enlil.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: millzy]
    #19186757 - 11/25/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And we don't need any more...

The fact is that advertisement of cigarettes is incredibly effective at getting people to smoke.  This is true even though it is almost universally known that smoking is dangerous. 

I see no reason to encourage more heroin addiction and many reasons to discourage it.


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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Enlil]
    #19186780 - 11/25/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

tobacco advertising is limited by government. perhaps the solution to your problem lies in regulating how drugs are marketed rather than allowing the black market to flourish as well as the attitude of stigmatization towards drug addicts to persist, both of which decriminalization fails to address.


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