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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Chowder963]
#19114834 - 11/10/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Chowder963 said: You just made yourself sound SOO weird dude, just be normal about it and tell him your opinion, he's going to think your a weirdass.
You're the typical obsessed with drugs socially awkward weird guy that goes on an on about drugs in a positive light saying things they've learned about drugs through experience/google. How old are you..? Be a man about it, be a normal member of society about it, this letter is just weird man.
QFT
Just be like dude you only live once as far as I know, so im going to experiment until I get kicked in the butt
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Moonshoe]
#19115292 - 11/10/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: I believe psychedelics and dissociative are tools for spiritual growth and enlightenment if used wisely and with intent, however, they will never work fully unless A. you are completely dedicated to a legitimate shamanic path under the tutelage of a sincere initiated shaman and B. You supplement your psychedelic shamanism with other techniques such as meditation, chanting, yoga, conscious breathing, exercise and C. you stay on top of your real world responsibilities like work, exercise, relationships, money, chores etc.
while, per my previous post, i think what you believe is perfectly fine, i will contest this point you've made here. in no way am i working any path under the tutelage of anyone. and in no way do i utilize any other types of spiritual technology e.g. yoga, meditation etc. (although quite honestly, i think i should). i generally also leave intent out of the picture. i make sure i'm in a safe place with safe people, take them and have a good time. in doing so i have had experiences that i can only deem as "mystical". what you seem to be saying is that you won't be able to get to that "mystical" level where you truly learn with psychedelics without your aforementioned structure. my personal experience contradicts such a claim. i also think i can say with a fair amount of certainty that my psychedelic experiences have all been positive factors in my personal development. and partly because of those positive experiences, i am an extremely grounded, healthy, productive member of society.
regulating the psychedelic experience in religious ways can give rise to dogmatic thinking, and to me dogmatism in any form is deeply troubling. in the case of the psychedelic experience dogmatism is limiting at best. if everything (according to your belief system) has already been figured out for you, how much can you really learn? if anything, psychedelics have taught me to question my belief systems and put the useful ones in the proper context as tools we use to render reality intelligible. as robert anton wilson says, belief systems are like maps, but the map is not the territory it charts any more than the word is not the thing which it signifies. you are certainly entitled to live your life the best way you see fit, but to me this is a backwards approach to this practice.
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: millzy]
#19115311 - 11/10/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've lost alot of respect for people in this thread. Join normal society please, you guys are all so desperately trying to sound smart and its embarassing for yourselves. You all seem extremely immature, and that's coming from someone who is considered very immature on these boards.
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Chowder963]
#19115352 - 11/10/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Either tell him to Or make him happy.
Personally I would tell him to deal with it.
honestly, full post was tldr but on a side note, I FUCKING HATE ULTIMATUMS!!
DC
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Chowder963]
#19115365 - 11/10/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Chowder963 said: I've lost alot of respect for people in this thread. Join normal society please, you guys are all so desperately trying to sound smart and its embarassing for yourselves. You all seem extremely immature, and that's coming from someone who is considered very immature on these boards.
explain how i am "trying to sound smart". have you read my other posts? i'm hardly reaching and i don't have anything to prove to anyone. i disagree with the op and i'm explaining why. being unable to keep up with the conversation seems to me like a personal problem on your end.
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: millzy]
#19115369 - 11/10/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I concur
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
#19115397 - 11/10/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This thread is fucking funny.
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Moonshoe]
#19116901 - 11/10/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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On a more sincere note, I am curious why you will never try 2C-B or Methylone.
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Epigallo]
#19117093 - 11/10/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya 2C-B is the beez neez
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: birdland]
#19119225 - 11/11/13 06:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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He just doesn't want to end up like trance. I don't blame him.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#19119255 - 11/11/13 07:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i still dont know why ya just didnt tell the brother to " piss off toward deep space"
the whole thing sounds like a buzzkill.
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: birdland]
#19120796 - 11/11/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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birdland said: Ya 2C-B is the beez neez 
2C-B is the shit, fuck all the other 2c-x's I love my Nexus though. even eating 100mg of that shit doesnt make you feel like shit.
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
#19122191 - 11/11/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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100mg of 2cb is an astronomical dose if i'm not mistaken. it is amazing though.
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: millzy]
#19178906 - 11/23/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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millzy said: i think that while there are many useful and interesting insights that can be gained from the psychedelic experience, people tend to wrap their drug usage up in language that makes it out more than what it is. first and foremost, i like to get high because it's fun. i don't ever take drugs and think to myself "i'm going to try to have a mystical experience that will allow me to improve myself". roll the dice, have fun, and if you get a glimpse of the empyrean then good on you.
Lol that's why most hippies annoy me.
I think people come off to be more confused then enlightened from mushrooms. Giving you the feeling that your enlightenment instantly makes your theories about this and that all have more value is silly. Living in real life instead of taking drugs will enlighten you.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
Edited by Bitter Cactus (11/23/13 01:10 PM)
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#19178924 - 11/23/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: He just doesn't want to end up like trance. I don't blame him.
Long live trANce. LONG LIVE!
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#19178977 - 11/23/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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millzy said: i think that while there are many useful and interesting insights that can be gained from the psychedelic experience, people tend to wrap their drug usage up in language that makes it out more than what it is. first and foremost, i like to get high because it's fun. i don't ever take drugs and think to myself "i'm going to try to have a mystical experience that will allow me to improve myself". roll the dice, have fun, and if you get a glimpse of the empyrean then good on you.
Lol that's why most hippies annoy me.
I think people come off to be more confused then enlightened from mushrooms. Giving you the feeling that your enlightenment instantly makes your theories about this and that all have more value is silly. Living in real life instead of taking drugs will enlighten you.
Hey BC. Miss you in WCA. Still on the meff?
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Moonshoe]
#19178994 - 11/23/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said:
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Bitter Cactus said:
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millzy said: i think that while there are many useful and interesting insights that can be gained from the psychedelic experience, people tend to wrap their drug usage up in language that makes it out more than what it is. first and foremost, i like to get high because it's fun. i don't ever take drugs and think to myself "i'm going to try to have a mystical experience that will allow me to improve myself". roll the dice, have fun, and if you get a glimpse of the empyrean then good on you.
Lol that's why most hippies annoy me.
I think people come off to be more confused then enlightened from mushrooms. Giving you the feeling that your enlightenment instantly makes your theories about this and that all have more value is silly. Living in real life instead of taking drugs will enlighten you.
Hey BC. Miss you in WCA. Still on the meff?
I use maybe once every three weeks to a month lately (aside from a free just above placebo dose before work). It can change though but right now my focus is on different things.
Feeling good
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#19179083 - 11/23/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Schizophrenia and cannabis isn't a myth, it's how I got it. Every time I smoked, it was hell, and then it stuck around.
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: circastes]
#19179261 - 11/23/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wanna know something? When I smoked pot every day, some people from the wca thread remember, i was legit hearing tracks play on top of each other, of voices that were not there when I'd be high and try to fall asleep. I quickly realized it is literally the hardest drug on my brain yet I smoke speed stay up days and don't hear any voices, at all, even after four days being awake. I quit weed a long time ago and plan to never go back.
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Re: My brother wrote me a letter telling me to quit drugs - here is my response [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#19185404 - 11/25/13 03:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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People see weed as harmless and light because physically, it is. But mentally it has a high fuck-up potential in comparison to most recreational drugs. From what I've seen/experienced anyway
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