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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19044599 - 10/28/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

huh? i'm talking about all of us, about our existence. what's there to enjoy?


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19044632 - 10/28/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You wrote in the OP:

Quote:

Apollop said:
the more of a nihilist i become
the more of the matrix i see
the more i see humans as poor and pathetic
waking up sucks.




Do you enjoy seeing this?


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19044728 - 10/28/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

of course not.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19044738 - 10/28/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Then why do you do shrooms?


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19044746 - 10/28/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i do them because whatever they bring me is real, to me at least. whatever thoughts, realisations, changes, etc. are real, be it good or bad. and in general, the effects are mostly positive and they have positive changes/effects on my life and i will continue to them.

there are also a lot of things i do that i like for different reasons and dislike some characteristics/effects of. this is where you weigh the pros and cons and obviously i decide to do and continue doing shrooms regardless of what they bring.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19044785 - 10/28/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i do them because whatever they bring me is real, to me at least. whatever thoughts, realisations, changes, etc. are real, be it good or bad. and in general, the effects are mostly positive and they have positive changes/effects on my life and i will continue to them.

Positive effects on your life is the following:

the more of a nihilist i become
the more of the matrix i see
the more i see humans as poor and pathetic
waking up sucks.

"Waking up sucks you say", then why chase it? For the mere sake of reality?

Who is the person that really sucks?


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19046182 - 10/28/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Did these 3 points strike you as positive effects or something? Is the sake of reality not a good enuf thing to chase? Do u just want to argue for the sake of arguing?


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impatiently awaiting potency: some explosive revelatory surge
that will carry me away and permit no looking back.
But this moment of deliverance has not arrived,
and I have done nothing to hasten it.
Perhaps it doesn’t matter.
Perhaps I wasn’t meant to do anything.
In which case, I have succeeded admirably.



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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19046203 - 10/28/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Did these 3 points strike you as positive effects or something?

There are 4 statements made by you and it certainly seems like they're positive to you or else I wonder why you consume shrooms. Regardless of their "positive sides", these 4 statements seems gruesome.

Is the sake of reality not a good enuf thing to chase?

Is psilocybin the answer to reality?

Do u just want to argue for the sake of arguing?

Why would you think I do that?


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19046545 - 10/28/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

1. Yes, these statemenrs are gruesome but there are positive statements I left out because this post was about the negative ones :wink:
2. I'm simply using the words that YOU introduced to this thread. And yes, if it's bringing me closer to a general reality then they are a tool but not the answer. I am not looking for an answer because there is no answer.
3. That's the impression I got after noticing that your comments are kind of irrelevant, and I apologize if I got the wrong impression.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19046564 - 10/28/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

1. Yes, these statemenrs are gruesome but there are positive statements I left out because this post was about the negative ones :wink:

Waking up sucks you say, what goes above waking up or awareness?

2. I'm simply using the words that YOU introduced to this thread. And yes, if it's bringing me closer to a general reality then they are a tool but not the answer. I am not looking for an answer because there is no answer

Which words did I introduce to this thread?

If you're not looking for an answer, why don't you kill yourself and save humanity for your shit? This I would highly respect.

3. That's the impression I got after noticing that your comments are kind of irrelevant, and I apologize if I got the wrong impression.

Please elaborate why you would think I argue "just for the sake of it", if not your question is based on bogus.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19046753 - 10/28/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I no longer find a reason or need to reply to you so im gonna go ahead and start ignoring you. I do find you entertaining though so I might get back to you later when I'm bored.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19046973 - 10/28/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I no longer find a reason or need to reply to you so im gonna go ahead and start ignoring you.

Reality suck.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19049538 - 10/28/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

what you see is still a dream, keep bleating sheep the food is a trojan horse! the reptilians got you "by the balls" and the clockwork elves arent here to save you The Architect wont step in


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: tokerL]
    #19049742 - 10/28/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I dont think its the shrroms brothers I think youre using the shrooms as a scapegoat sub-consciously. Maybe you're naturally becoming depressed. Theres no reason for that though brother life is such a beautiful thing and every human has so much energy and mystery to offer. smile man life is beautiful!


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Brain Melter]
    #19049769 - 10/28/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've heard people say the same thing about many other drugs, not just entheogens.

OP, what you describe is only a facade held up by your views on the world. In reality, this planet posses all that is good and evil, it sounds like you are choosing to only see the evil.

Open your eyes and mind to all that is love, surround yourself with people of the same mind set and your walls WILL come down.

As an old friend who has passed on once told me

"you cannot surround yourself with negative people and expect to live a positive life"


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Brain Melter]
    #19049795 - 10/28/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

(I hate to get personal and corny but you sound like you need a little help)I felt the same way as you when I was around 15. Nothing was going right for me I got locked up, all my friends were turning into heroin addicts, my family was deep in poverty, my father was out of work and hopped up on painkillers because of his injury, girl problems etc. I felt truly alone and everyday I woke up I would think just about getting through my day so I could fall back asleep and ignore the pain and shit. The one thing that helped me was contributing to society honestly. I was forced to do community service at first by the law, but then I started to do things to help people on my own and it took away my lonely feeling. Things really took a turn for the best when I left the city to go work at a summer camp in the woods with kids of all ages. The kids looked up to me so much and just playing sports with them or giving them advice on life meant the world to them and made me feel like I was apart of the rest of society. They were just kids from other parts of the city who didnt know me as anyone other than a their counselor for 2 weeks. They didnt know that the previous year I was a robbing and fighting punk who didnt give a shit about dying or anything other than drugs and money. Honestly I had even forgotten who I had been not long before going away...it was like a clean slate and when I got home I felt like a new person and I actually felt like a man for once who could handle responsibility. Moral of the story, the reason you feel lonely is because you are living for yourself, and thats not how a perfect world functions


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Brain Melter]
    #19049805 - 10/28/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

And liquid lounge, you should never suggest somebody kill themselves. Thats just as much of a cowardice move than the guy killing himself because you aren't willing to help. Suicide is a very serious thing I can get personal on that subject as well but everybody needs to focus on positives. Hope I helped a little bit brother! :smile:


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Brain Melter]
    #19050260 - 10/29/13 03:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OP, I feel the same a lot of the time. However you should know there is A LOT you can do.

The feeling you have is IMO from a failure on your end to actually integrate your visions in immediate reality in your life. You live in Egypt. You still have around you the ruins of a great civilization that once was, that put great emphasis on its beliefs and religion, made astonishing temples and pyramids, linked their gods with mathematics, buildings, art, rituals, clothing, everything.

Have you done any of that with your trips? Implement what the visions show you? It's hard to do it alone, so that's why it's good to meet and befriend other trippers. Like psy festivals. Rainbow gatherings and so on. Have you been to one of these yet?

Also, there are group ceremonies. I've only been to the Santo Daime, and it's a life changer, to trip well in an organized event like that. I don't know what you have closest to where you live, but do search for them. Have you done anything like that yet? If not, please do, otherwise your solo tripping is only likely to get you more alienated from normal clearhead society. It's like drinking alone by yourself, if you don't integrate it with people, activities and real objects in your life, you become estranged from them. Before you know you'll be a weird loner.

What I've seen from my trips is at least the potential of what we all COULD do, if we play our cards right. We could have harmony. We could have great festivals again, in the mainstream. We could use psychedelics for science, religion, art, love, harmony, many useful things. But we have a lot of ignorance, apathy and straight up advertising noise to balance. Not fight and overpower, but intelligently integrate. The same way you tame a dog and use its aggression constructively, not just kill it.

We have to lead by example. It's not the alcohol-infused coffee-driven office drones that will lead the way. It's on us to do it, or if we don't do it, nobody will.

Connect with other trippers, find others and trip and work with them for a better life, it's the best advice I can give you. Change your room with nice psychedelic art you feel good about. If you can't find it make it. It helps!

Good vibes :heart:


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For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it,
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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19050283 - 10/29/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Apollop said:
I no longer find a reason or need to reply to you so im gonna go ahead and start ignoring you. I do find you entertaining though so I might get back to you later when I'm bored.




you sir are a pathetic Ego tripper:fasted: Someone needs to bitch slap the shit out of you:baaaam:
This can be done with shrooms too.


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Re: The More I do Shrooms... [Re: Apollop]
    #19050916 - 10/29/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The more i figure out the more i want too shake motherfuckers out of their hypnosis

The more i get closer to God through good drugs the closer i get to the devil with bad drugs like heroin

The closer i get too finding out "the ultimate code to pandora's box" the closer i feel to death

The closer i feel to death the closer revolution is

The closer revolution is the closer i feel at peace


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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