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Pure Vermiculite casings for my Pan Cyan trays * 1
    #19044230 - 10/28/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hello
I have some Pan cyan trays almost ready to be
cased with coir, only problem is I have NONE right now.
I have to wait until payday about a few days from now.

So my question is: Would a pure vermiculite casing work for
Panaeolus Cyanescens?
I've always only used coir for PanCyans
and I only use pure vermiculite for Cubensis.


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Re: Pure Vermiculite casings for my Pan Cyan trays [Re: Esmash]
    #19044242 - 10/28/13 03:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, definitely. Vermiculite is good enough casing material on it's own, mixing it with coir or peat gives minimum improvement in performance.


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Re: Pure Vermiculite casings for my Pan Cyan trays [Re: Tangich]
    #19044337 - 10/28/13 04:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Coir is not casing layer material......

It is bulk substrate material...

Using verm is fine.


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Re: Pure Vermiculite casings for my Pan Cyan trays [Re: PussyFart]
    #19044390 - 10/28/13 05:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:brilliant:
Ohes sweet!
I'll be sure to case them with Vermiculite and
no more coir. Panaeolus Cyanescens is such an amazing
and tiny mushroom species.
In fact they're going to be cased today, but I
am going to relax a bit first lol


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Re: Pure Vermiculite casings for my Pan Cyan trays [Re: PussyFart]
    #19045452 - 10/28/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Notahacker420 said:
Coir is not casing layer material......



It was for years and years until a person started saying that it isn't and everyone started repeating it. It's perfectly fine. Thousands of people were using it since the beginning of hobby mushroom cultivation and never had any problems with it. If you don't have peat, you can use coir without worry.


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Re: Pure Vermiculite casings for my Pan Cyan trays [Re: Tangich]
    #19045478 - 10/28/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Tangich said:
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Notahacker420 said:
Coir is not casing layer material......



It was for years and years until a person started saying that it isn't and everyone started repeating it. It's perfectly fine. Thousands of people were using it since the beginning of hobby mushroom cultivation and never had any problems with it. If you don't have peat, you can use coir without worry.




Oh dude thanks, I was thinking the same thing
but I wasn't sure, haha :laugh:
I love this hobby so much :heart:


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Re: Pure Vermiculite casings for my Pan Cyan trays [Re: Tangich]
    #19045622 - 10/28/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Tangich said:
Quote:

Notahacker420 said:
Coir is not casing layer material......



It was for years and years until a person started saying that it isn't and everyone started repeating it. It's perfectly fine. Thousands of people were using it since the beginning of hobby mushroom cultivation and never had any problems with it. If you don't have peat, you can use coir without worry.




That was then and this is now. Coir isn't casing material and if someone plans on casing something they should have gone out and bought proper casing materials while things were colonizing or something instead of thinking about casing materials right before casing.


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Re: Pure Vermiculite casings for my Pan Cyan trays [Re: Tangich]
    #19045879 - 10/28/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Tangich said:
Quote:

Notahacker420 said:
Coir is not casing layer material......



It was for years and years until a person started saying that it isn't and everyone started repeating it. It's perfectly fine. Thousands of people were using it since the beginning of hobby mushroom cultivation and never had any problems with it. If you don't have peat, you can use coir without worry.



Coir has nutrients.....we know this because we spawn our grains to it and the mycellium eats it up....

A casing layer is supposed to have very little nutrients....

Taking this into consideration, coir makes for a shitty casing layer material, especially when the alternatives are verm and peat....


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