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adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator
    #19045636 - 10/28/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i have 21 rye berries jars of sclerotia galandi strain, from multi spore inoc about 15 days ago, i have polyfill lids. I feel like there a little dry now. in my grain prep i soaked the grains for 24 hour then boiled but i was working with so much volume that the boiling wasnt that hard and no berries popped.
i also live in a dry climate, so i have them now in a incubator with a small heating pad and im misting a chlorine water solution into the sealed incubator hoping that that might keep the moister steady inside my jar.
does anyone see an immediate problem??
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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: stonezy]
    #19045766 - 10/28/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

heating pad might be reducing the moisture in your jars. what's the temp around your jars?


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: NikkiDubbed]
    #19045778 - 10/28/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

they were around 68 i got them at 75 now


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: stonezy]
    #19045797 - 10/28/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I live in a very dry and cold climate, I have found incubators to be a waste of time. I just place my jars where I have room for them around the house, which stays around room temp. Heaters tend to just dry out the air around it, you shouldnt have to mist for moisture to stay in your jars either.

If the heater is getting it to 75 then i'd say keep it. I dont have experience with polyfil lids, maybe someone else can chime in on this?

I doubt your grains will dry out, if you think they are dry after colonization you can always dunk your grains before spawning them to get them rehydrated


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: stonezy]
    #19045843 - 10/28/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i feel like if i have the relative humidity in a closed system outside the jar higher than in the jar, the jar wont bleed out its moister,.


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: stonezy]
    #19521625 - 02/04/14 05:43 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Hey what did you determine about the low humidity issue for colonization? I live in a very cold dry climate. My jars are kept in a closet with a heat pad connected to a digital temp control gauge. The jars are on a tray that are lifted up about 5" off the heat pad so they're not in direct contact. It keeps them nice and warm all day and night, but I have been wondering about the low humidity possibly drying out my grains too soon... what did you determine?


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: Unicorns]
    #19521652 - 02/04/14 05:51 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Why use heating pad?  My TiT Sits at 85-90% rh 24/7, the ambient room rh is 20-30% in the room its in.


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: indocult]
    #19521731 - 02/04/14 06:20 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

the humidity wont dry out your grains any time soon with the proper GE filter on top but that heating pad sure will quickly. Get the heating pad out of there.


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19532483 - 02/06/14 08:04 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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the humidity wont dry out your grains any time soon with the proper GE filter on top but that heating pad sure will quickly. Get the heating pad out of there.




Dang, I wonder if this is my issue. Been having a hard time with getting my jars to colonize. Without the heat pad it's possible the temp could drop to near freezing at night... I would imagine it would take a very long time to colonize without the heating pad. And I don't have the funds right now to create an aquarium heater double tub system.


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: Unicorns]
    #19532557 - 02/06/14 08:18 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I dunno about you man, but i usually keep my house or apt around 65 or 70...

Kinda hard to sleep in freezing temps as a human.

Remember, heat the room, not the jar.


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: blojo02184]
    #19532581 - 02/06/14 08:22 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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I dunno about you man, but i usually keep my house or apt around 65 or 70...

Kinda hard to sleep in freezing temps as a human.

Remember, heat the room, not the jar.




The house is heated by propane, which is an expensive resource both for my wallet and for the Earth. We're quite ok under a down comforter, it's just hard to get out of bed in the morning.


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: Unicorns]
    #19532715 - 02/06/14 08:46 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

you can colonize cubes in the fridge, I think you're house is OK. It might take some time but the heating pad is detrimental. if you're above 60F most of the time you should be fine in 4-8 weeks for full colonization, if you think that's slow try growing a pot plant.


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    #19533001 - 02/06/14 09:49 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

^^Haha yes mj takes major patience. at least mushrooms don't look like they're ready to harvest for 3 weeks or more when they really aren't


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: indocult]
    #19533072 - 02/06/14 10:08 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

So true. Even now I still gotta get out the jewlers loop to look at the trichomes and check the color hahaha


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19535158 - 02/07/14 12:32 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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you can colonize cubes in the fridge, I think you're house is OK. It might take some time but the heating pad is detrimental. if you're above 60F most of the time you should be fine in 4-8 weeks for full colonization, if you think that's slow try growing a pot plant.




Thanks for your advice, it's good to know that the cold will only slow it down. I'll give it a try w/o the heat pad.

However, as an aside... I opened a couple of the uncolonized jars today that have been sitting 5" raised above the heat pad for the last two weeks. I inspected the rye and noted that they were still squishy like they had moisture, and there was even a little condensation towards the top of the jar. Wouldn't this indicate that the jars are in fact not too dry? Of course I have close to no experience so I don't have much to compare it to.


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Re: adding humidity to colonizing rye jars incubator [Re: stonezy]
    #19535167 - 02/07/14 12:34 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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does anyone see an immediate problem??
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Yes, use a proper TiT incubator and don't mist your jars, ever. A wet filter is much less effective.

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you can colonize cubes in the fridge




That is a warm-ass fridge :eek:


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