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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: Deathcore]
    #19044502 - 10/28/13 06:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How is it not possible 2 + 2 = 4?


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19044535 - 10/28/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

because enlightened minds love thangs like that BRAW! :aweyeah:

the ancestors love it because it creates more enlightened minds and that is the real selection. :trippnballs:


Edited by rikuni (10/28/13 06:58 AM)


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Invisibleliquidlounge

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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: rikuni]
    #19044558 - 10/28/13 07:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Is this a reply to my post? If not, click quick reply on the opening poster next time.


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19044579 - 10/28/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Reality was made as impossible to grasp as possible. And yes, I said made. Deal with it atheists. Until you show me how something can come out of nothing, I will have to say that the only logical answer to the ineffability of what IS, is that GOD IS.

What is the nature of God? Different question, which only God himself can answer. Ask to get to know him (out loud, the world was MADE with language, if psychedelics haven't made that apparent, then you're hopeless.) and he will reveal himself to you.

Just ask this: I want to know the creator of the universe at a personal level, please show me.

The answer will come at the right time.


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Invisibleliquidlounge

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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: The Centre]
    #19044589 - 10/28/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just ask this: I want to know the creator of the universe at a personal level, please show me.

The answer will come at the right time.


How many people has been asking this throughout history of mankind, how closer are humans to some sort of universal truth?


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19044610 - 10/28/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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liquidlounge said:
Just ask this: I want to know the creator of the universe at a personal level, please show me.

The answer will come at the right time.


How many people has been asking this throughout history of mankind, how closer are humans to some sort of universal truth?




Universal truth? Who said anything about something like that? I was talking about a personal relationship with God, with the emphasis on PERSONAL. Each person has his own reality, so how can there be a universal truth?


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: The Centre]
    #19044630 - 10/28/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Universal truth?

Certainly the creator must logically speaking be the universal truth?

I was talking about a personal relationship with God, with the emphasis on PERSONAL.

So your creator is not my creator?


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: The Centre]
    #19044732 - 10/28/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The Centre said:
Until you show me how something can come out of nothing, I will have to say that the only logical answer to the ineffability of what IS, is that GOD IS.




Don't know, therefore God.  Yep, sounds about par for the course.


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19044745 - 10/28/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The only reason you use the term "God" is because of your geography,


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19044758 - 10/28/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

God offends us as an explanation of all this, yet eternal vibrations of OM or what have you don't...

Don't be afraid of the concept of God because reality is quite like a snake eating its own tail, so if one gets caught up on the validity of particular jargon used to describe this motion, they will miss observation of the perpetual turning-in-on-itself.


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: windowlikcer]
    #19044796 - 10/28/13 09:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

More assumptions, this time about what total strangers do or do not believe.


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19044825 - 10/28/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The guy with the post full of pictures seemed to get your stamp of approval, whereas the guy toting God got the stamp of disapproval! I don't know what you personally believe, but it is clear to see which thought you warmed up to more.

They are both talking about the same thing.


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: Deathcore]
    #19044840 - 10/28/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Alan Watts on the issue



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it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: windowlikcer]
    #19044850 - 10/28/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What do you know, that 2 + 2 = 5 or 2 + 2 = 4?

The concept of god or God is just that, a concept. Law of gravity is not a concept, it's reality.


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19045346 - 10/28/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The law of gravity would have no context if it wasn't ordered into general concepts of "reality". On the ontological level, the concept of God and the law of gravity are both subject to the same scrutiny as regards their being.

To separate concepts from laws doesn't help in this case because it doesn't reveal anything about the being of either, and if "HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE?" is generally what we are after here (which is essentially the question of being, why is there something rather than nothing), the distinction is useless. The two should be united on the same plane and then interrogated in regards to their being.


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: windowlikcer]
    #19045374 - 10/28/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The law of gravity would have no context if it wasn't ordered into general concepts of "reality".

What happens if you jump off a 1000 meter high cliff into sharp rocks with no parachute? Is it reality you will die?

Or if your head get chopped off, will you die?


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: liquidlounge] * 1
    #19045381 - 10/28/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It depends on your definition of "you"

If you consider "you" to be the center of the universe, then yes, "you" die.
If you consider "you" to be an extension of the universe, a speck of dust on the fingernail of the finger, of the arm, of the body of the universe, then no "you" don't really die.
It's like mountains that rise from the earth. Yes they are all individual mountains, but aren't they really all a part of the whole?


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: The Centre]
    #19045392 - 10/28/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If God exists wouldn't something have to create that God? And if God was created then he technically isn't a God according to the definition


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #19045403 - 10/28/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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liquidlounge said:
The law of gravity would have no context if it wasn't ordered into general concepts of "reality".

What happens if you jump off a 1000 meter high cliff into sharp rocks with no parachute? Is it reality you will die?

Or if your head get chopped off, will you die?




I could answer "yes, it is reality that I would die". Then immediately, one may ask, what is the being of this reality that I should die, in exactly the same way the being of anything and everything may be interrogated in regards to its being.

So in other words any answer I could think up in response to you would still not establish anything about being. And certainly not the original question, which may be summed up as why is there anything at all rather than nothing? 

I think you are trying to impose limits where the goal should be to expel all perceived or conceived limits in quest of the true ground of being.


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Re: HOW IS LIFE/REALITY POSSIBLE? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19045407 - 10/28/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Sleepwalker said:
NOBODY KNOWS

that's the most honest answer you're gonna get




This^^

It's fun to come up with theories and stories and religions while the real answer is way over our heads. But that doesn't mean we should stop trying to figure it out.


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