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Zeitgeist - The movie
    #19044536 - 10/28/13 06:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You guys have got to watch Peter Joseph's Zeitgeist - The movie. It is really interesting and will give you a lot to think about. It a documentary and it makes some really interesting observations. It is on Netflix if you have it.

Has anyone else seen it? What did you think about the comparisons between our modern religions and ancient astrology?


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Stromrider]
    #19045343 - 10/28/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's dead right about religion and banking. Having said that its still an entertainment focused video with a ton of inaccuracy.

Jesus is the sun god.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Yogi1]
    #19045348 - 10/28/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I have to admit there is definitely some bullshit in it but I really enjoyed part 1.
It contained some really interesting points


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Stromrider]
    #19045552 - 10/28/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yessir! It was my first step in my research about preceding Jesus stories :awesomenod:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Yogi1]
    #19047524 - 10/28/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I watched it on Neflix last week.

Few points are valid especially in Part 1.  Dates are just fabricated to suit.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19047588 - 10/28/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I watched it on Neflix last week.

Few points are valid especially in Part 1.  Dates are just fabricated to suit.



:curbyourenthusiasm:

Use the Google machine baby.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Yogi1]
    #19050383 - 10/29/13 04:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not quite sure what you mean.....and I don't use Google, yet alone regard it as thee source of truth. :wink:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050391 - 10/29/13 04:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I mean use the best search engine in the world to look for scholarly articles :awesomenod:

Google doesn't make the internets.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050396 - 10/29/13 04:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If they are so readily available you'll have no problem referring me to them and proving my point to the contrary. :thumbup:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050401 - 10/29/13 04:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why don't you use Google?


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Stromrider]
    #19050421 - 10/29/13 04:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why don't you use Google?




Google is Satan. God put dinosaur bones in the earth to test our well earned faith the same way he invented no fewer than 7 preceding stories of prophets dying and resurrecting after 3 days....

Also December 25 being their birthday is quite coincidental as is the fact that it was a preceding pagan holiday revolving around the resurrection of the sun and longer days to come...

Some people are :tard: seriously.

Even Markos knows this Shit and he's ten times the Christian as this guy.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Stromrider]
    #19050431 - 10/29/13 05:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why don't you use Google?





Maybe that's one for a rainy day. I won't sidetrack.

I'm too busy anticipating the truth that Krishna, Horus, Attis and Mithra were all born on the 25th December and everything is one and the same.... :wink:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050445 - 10/29/13 05:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No need to anticipate that the catholic church, in an attempt to garner wide acceptance among people of the pagan world chose to warp Jesus into another carbon copy sun god...

Welcome to the way of the world.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Yogi1]
    #19050485 - 10/29/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I wasn't anticipating that.

...only your supposed readily available evidence which correlates with the claim of the movie.

Maybe Egyptologists and historians have something to learn here since they certainly haven't found most of these connections.

Welcome to Internet conspiracy and gullibility. :thumbup:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050494 - 10/29/13 05:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Welcome to being far to stupid lazy and brainwashed to have ever looked for this info yourself. It's a big internet. Search it.

Seriously, how do people.who believe Jesus is bread and wafers make it into a real job.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050504 - 10/29/13 05:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm surprised you've still missed the apparent point that your dependance upon the Internet (and documentaries inspired by the same sources of supposed evidence) is the very root of your entire misunderstanding....


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050513 - 10/29/13 05:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm surprised you've still missed the apparent point that your dependance upon the Internet (and documentaries inspired by the same sources of supposed evidence) is the very root of your entire misunderstanding....




Yeah, total dependence on an infinite source of information, much of which is cited when you look hard enough.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Yogi1]
    #19050535 - 10/29/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why must we need to "look hard" if this evidence is infinitely everywhere? You are at clear conflict with your propositions.

If the evidence is there (which I believe it not to be), bring it to the forefront and we'll discuss further. 

You bear the onus. :wink:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050543 - 10/29/13 05:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm: your brainwashed my man. I've been there. It sucks


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Stromrider]
    #19050554 - 10/29/13 06:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Brainwashed by knowing the documentary isn't credible?


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050564 - 10/29/13 06:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do you believe the Bible is the world of God? Do you believe if you don't believe in him and accept him as your savior you'll suffer in hell for all eternity?

If so then you're brainwashed. Simple as that


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Stromrider]
    #19050569 - 10/29/13 06:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why did you assume that?


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050575 - 10/29/13 06:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That's how you came off. If I assumed wrong then I have made an ass of me and I apologize


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Stromrider]
    #19050581 - 10/29/13 06:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you believe the Bible is the world of God? Do you believe if you don't believe in him and accept him as your savior you'll suffer in hell for all eternity.

If so then you're brainwashed. Simple as that




Don't forget to make the space aliens believers in Jesus and his sacrifice before they too burn in hades, ahem, I mean hell...

Now you better prove to me that hades preceded hell, and non of that internet lies ya dig?


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Stromrider]
    #19050598 - 10/29/13 06:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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That's how you came off. If I assumed wrong then I have made an ass of me and I apologize




No problem.

I'm merely looking for the evidence (of which I now have no hope) that all those mentioned are connected. 

I could have equally been assumed to be defending Krishna...


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050613 - 10/29/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

True

I don't have the evidence your looking for. I don't know what God is but I definitely know what he's not. He's not the MAN from the Bible that I was taught about growing up


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Stromrider]
    #19050619 - 10/29/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'd certainly agree with you. :thumbup:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050633 - 10/29/13 06:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Btw Love your user name. That's pretty clever


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050653 - 10/29/13 06:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks. I do my best. :wink:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050675 - 10/29/13 06:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dionysus is proven to have predated Jesus yes?


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Yogi1]
    #19050763 - 10/29/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm allergic to red herring.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050779 - 10/29/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm allergic to red herring.



Dionysus, being bred of Zeus and affiliated with wine is no herring.

Some argue that the utterly ridiculous and unnecessary water to wine story was simply to one up Dionysus.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050807 - 10/29/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Some theorize the wine to water legend, together with the fish, is simply a symbol that illustrates the abundance of heart that followers of Christ witness after having surrendered themselves, but still the topic is unrelated to proving with evidence that Zeitgeist is a credible documentary... :wink:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050816 - 10/29/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's not credible. Make the point whatever you want and call posts fallacy then. I'm assuming you're in for debate rather than discussion. It's hard to see any other reason you're still posting if not a brainwashed christian.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Yogi1]
    #19050829 - 10/29/13 07:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It's not credible.




Not even with the supposed presence of infinite Internet evidence?

Quite an abrupt shift in opinion there though I'm glad we're finally in agreement. :thumbup:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050897 - 10/29/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Had you actually read the thread you would know before you showed up I already mentioned it wasn't credible. It just happens to be correct in the religion section. If you cared to spend any amount of time reading instead of arguing you could have by now read many articles supporting preceding emaculate conceptions etc


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Yogi1]
    #19050925 - 10/29/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Had you actually read the thread you would know before you showed up I already mentioned it wasn't credible. It just happens to be correct in the religion section.




The part about religion has been the only topic in question in our exchange so that, specifically is what I refer to.

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Yogi1 said:If you cared to spend any amount of time reading instead of arguing you could have by now read many articles supporting preceding emaculate conceptions etc




Whilst you dedicated yourself to posting irritated sporadic assumptions and down sydrome kids, you could have just posted the supposed evidence on the basis that I can't find it and believe it not to exist.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19050953 - 10/29/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm done. If you can't type preceding Jesus story into Google then there's no hope for humanity.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Yogi1]
    #19050963 - 10/29/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do that yourself, find a credible source and drop a link in here?

...or else there's no hope for your evidence. :crazy:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19051011 - 10/29/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just find it funny that Zeitgeist is THE go-to movie when someone wants to talk about conspiracies. It isn't even that great (inaccuracies, etc). I also have an aversion to clichés. It'd be way more badass if RAW's Illuminatus Trilogy was adapted into film format.... as long as casting and execution not being a letdown, of course.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #19051033 - 10/29/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Zeitgeist is lame and misses the incorrect points it tries to make. In plane sight on youtube is much better. In plane sight doesn't try for dramatic flair and I have yet to hear any holes in it.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #19056396 - 10/30/13 06:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I just find it funny that Zeitgeist is THE go-to movie when someone wants to talk about conspiracies. It isn't even that great (inaccuracies, etc). I also have an aversion to clichés. It'd be way more badass if RAW's Illuminatus Trilogy was adapted into film format.... as long as casting and execution not being a letdown, of course.



I would agree that Zeitgeist has pretty glaring inaccuracies especially the parts about the Egyptian creation story. 
But I think the Illuminatus Trilogy should stay in novel form, there is some long standing joke bombs that take years to blow.  But that one may be the most subversive book I've ever read.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19057162 - 10/30/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Zeitgeist is more fun to watch. I love the editing and the music. It's fuckin great.

Any news on Zeitgeist 4? Peter Joseph said he was gonna try and make like 3 more films last time he was on JRE... haven't heard anything yet.


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    #19057197 - 10/30/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

He did. Kymatica was one. Can't remember the other two but their out there.

I really liked kymatica actually. Dealt with cymatics, basically how reality is literally made of frequency, gaia heart beat, micro to macro organisms etc.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Yogi1]
    #19057258 - 10/30/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Esoteric agenda, kymatica, ungrip.

All fantastic films compared to the hole ridden Zeitgeist original films.

Esoteric agenda is about governments world around destroying tribes that protect the planet through light work.

Kymatica is explained above.

Ungrip is a true story surrounding a man in Canada who is actually independent of social security, taxes, and even licensing.

All very interesting.

Esoteric agenda is conspiracy ridden and as such is potentially full of wrong info, but the other two should be fantastic for everyone.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Yogi1]
    #19058751 - 10/30/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I loved the movie, the end was very spiritual about oneness, great flick!


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #19128588 - 11/12/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

still watching right now ....but what holes do you find in this movie i am wondering i bet there are some but seem s mostly accurate??
i hope they get into resource based economy thats why i watched it.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: lighthouse09]
    #19128612 - 11/12/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

For one thing it passes off an Onion News spoof as real, the senator talking about aliens. Love the Kennedy speech though. :watchingyou::thumbup:


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Middleman]
    #19128639 - 11/12/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

lol well yea ive sen a couple weird parts now maybe not 100%  but still a pretty cool movie and illuminatus is a great book i have given 2 away just to spread that shit a movie could work if done right.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #19128792 - 11/12/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I wasn't anticipating that.

...only your supposed readily available evidence which correlates with the claim of the movie.

Maybe Egyptologists and historians have something to learn here since they certainly haven't found most of these connections.

Welcome to Internet conspiracy and gullibility. :thumbup:




Actually, this book documents and describes how much of the New Testament stories were gleaned from the Egyptian Coffin and Pyramid Texts.



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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19135687 - 11/14/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Much like Zeigeist...:wink:

At needs to be evidence...at least to the reader.

Noted though as a possible read!


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    #19139098 - 11/14/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well, she does a good job of documenting and cross-referencing.


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Re: Zeitgeist - The movie [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19139405 - 11/15/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

She often references other authors who themselves have no solid references. Interesting theories but time would be better spent reading Jung, Campbell, or Wilber.


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