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Apollop



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Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue
#19031380 - 10/25/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Any advice on how to avoid this? Something to eat/drink during comedown or before eating the shrooms to avoid this fatigue/headache?
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: Apollop]
#19031468 - 10/25/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think so, lots of people always say the headache is down to dehydration, but I'm skeptical. I drank about 2 litres throughout my last trip and still ended up with a headache.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: Apollop] 1
#19031476 - 10/25/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is the first I've heard of this. All my comedowns from shrooms have been really pleasant. In fact, I feel better than before I had them.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: adastra80]
#19031813 - 10/25/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I always get a headache and fatigue after a trip. I usually just smoke weed and take 2 advils and sleep.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: McShroomin]
#19031824 - 10/25/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I get quite a bit of tension on the ride down from any strong trip. I usually drink a few beers after my peak.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: adastra80]
#19031865 - 10/25/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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adastra80 said: This is the first I've heard of this. All my comedowns from shrooms have been really pleasant. In fact, I feel better than before I had them.
i haven't had one single trip without a headache after. it's a weird headache. one that i never get except after shrooms comedowns. i smoke and i drink beer and it's still there... i tried taking panadol today but it's still slightly there... it's like my brain is drained from what it was going through/experiencing every time
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: HostDisorder]
#19031868 - 10/25/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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HostDisorder said: I don't think so, lots of people always say the headache is down to dehydration, but I'm skeptical. I drank about 2 litres throughout my last trip and still ended up with a headache.
i dont think it's dehydration either. but i will try next time to drink a lot of water and see... cheers.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: Apollop]
#19032399 - 10/25/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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1) don't trip tired 2) have a good meal 6-8 hr before tripping 3) don't get dehydrated.... Most important 4) drink sugar or honey or juice drinks while tripping 5) a little caffeine with your mushrooms is good 6) don't fight the experience... 7) eat and drink on the come Down... Light meal
Just my 2 cents
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: HarryL]
#19032413 - 10/25/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: HarryL]
#19032785 - 10/25/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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HarryL said: 1) don't trip tired 2) have a good meal 6-8 hr before tripping 3) don't get dehydrated.... Most important 4) drink sugar or honey or juice drinks while tripping 5) a little caffeine with your mushrooms is good 6) don't fight the experience... 7) eat and drink on the come Down... Light meal
Just my 2 cents
This is really good advice.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: Apollop]
#19033709 - 10/25/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmmm , iv personally never had a headache on come down nor have I heard of any friends that have....
good advice from harryl ,I pretty much adhere to that or similar
some fatigue for the 24+ hours after a trip is pretty much inevitable ,especially after lager doses ,its a pretty exhausting experience , making a point of eating really healthy food and lots of sleep will greatly diminish fatigue
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: Al_Killiya]
#19033813 - 10/26/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've never experienced these symptoms. In fact, the opposite with LSD.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: GreySatyr]
#19035019 - 10/26/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I only get headaches if I stay up late like on a Friday after working all week then I'm exhausted and thrown off the next day.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: refried]
#19035072 - 10/26/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The comedown is the best part? You're probably not hydrated enough... Comedown feels like i took a bunch of xannys with watery flowy visuals still.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: theRAPeutic]
#19035214 - 10/26/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Vasoconstriction can cause headaches. Preload with a bunch of vasodilators like dark chocolate, ginko biloba, and L-arginine, that prevents the headache for some.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: Hygrocybe]
#19035281 - 10/26/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hygrocybe said: Vasoconstriction can cause headaches. Preload with a bunch of vasodilators like dark chocolate, ginko biloba, and L-arginine, that prevents the headache for some.
This
And then this - http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-582120.html
Makes most sense in my experience with psilo, but some people apparently don't get the headaches at all, but I think if you do like me, it's nothing to do with food intake or dehydration.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: HostDisorder]
#19035624 - 10/26/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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smoke weed and fall asleep
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: Hygrocybe]
#19035924 - 10/26/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hygrocybe said: Vasoconstriction can cause headaches. Preload with a bunch of vasodilators like dark chocolate, ginko biloba, and L-arginine, that prevents the headache for some.
that sounds like valuable info. what is vasoconstriction, vasodilators, ginko biloba, and l-arginine?!
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: Apollop]
#19040208 - 10/27/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Vasoconstriction is how the body regulates blood flow through the flexing of muscles that line arteries and some of the smaller vessels. It can slow bleeding after a cut and move blood away from the extremities when heat needs to be conserved. There are a lot of drugs that will cause these muscles to relax (dilating the vessels) or constrict. Many psychedelics are vasoconstrictors, and some of the RCs are strong enough to cause a dangerous lack of blood flow in an overdose.
When the vasoconstrictive effect wears off, the vessels dilate back open. This is when the headache starts. The sudden change might be stimulating the nerves that cause headaches. Taking vasodilators can prevent this change from being as sudden or dramatic. I've gotten pretty severe headaches after tripping when I don't follow these steps: -3hr 120mg ginko, 3g l-arginine, 1 oz dark chocolate; 0hr 120mg ginko; +2hr 120mg ginko, exercise. Ginko can cause stomach upset, don't take any of those during a trip without testing them first. I could be completely off in the timing, and I haven't repeated it enough to be certain it works. YMMV.
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Re: Avoiding the Comedown Headache/Fatigue [Re: Hygrocybe]
#19044042 - 10/28/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hygrocybe said: Vasoconstriction is how the body regulates blood flow through the flexing of muscles that line arteries and some of the smaller vessels. It can slow bleeding after a cut and move blood away from the extremities when heat needs to be conserved. There are a lot of drugs that will cause these muscles to relax (dilating the vessels) or constrict. Many psychedelics are vasoconstrictors, and some of the RCs are strong enough to cause a dangerous lack of blood flow in an overdose.
When the vasoconstrictive effect wears off, the vessels dilate back open. This is when the headache starts. The sudden change might be stimulating the nerves that cause headaches. Taking vasodilators can prevent this change from being as sudden or dramatic. I've gotten pretty severe headaches after tripping when I don't follow these steps: -3hr 120mg ginko, 3g l-arginine, 1 oz dark chocolate; 0hr 120mg ginko; +2hr 120mg ginko, exercise. Ginko can cause stomach upset, don't take any of those during a trip without testing them first. I could be completely off in the timing, and I haven't repeated it enough to be certain it works. YMMV. 
awesome. thanks
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