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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: buest]
#19043382 - 10/27/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said: I've pondered this over the years too. It's gonna vary person to person. Personally, I need to believe that this girl can actually make informed decisions about what's going on for me to smash. If she can walk, hold a decently intelligent conversation, and wants the D, I'll give it to her. But if she's all sloppy, I'm just not into it, and probably wouldn't finish anyways 
exactly, i was holding her up, and she had no idea what she was doing. I'm sure someone else banged her the second i left.
if she was cute you should have taken her home, tucked her into bed, then maybe get at it in the morning.
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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: Legend]
#19043392 - 10/27/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah that's a good idea, if she's already in your bed she'll def put out. Because of the implication
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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: volcomstoner]
#19043407 - 10/27/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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even if she doesn't, it's better than someone devious taking advantage.
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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: Legend] 1
#19043500 - 10/27/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or she'll wake up terrified in a strangers bed not remembering how she got there or who the hell you are
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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#19043503 - 10/27/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said: Or she'll wake up terrified in a strangers bed not remembering how she got there or who the hell you are 
exactly, and with the implication, she'll feel like she has to sleep with you if she wants to leave safely.
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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#19043529 - 10/28/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I only feel comfortable fucking someone intoxicated if I'm intoxicated as well. Also, unsexy as it is, I ALWAYS get a verbal ok as I'm taking off clothes, licking & kissing during foreplay just to give them plenty of time to make sure we're on the same page.
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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: volcomstoner]
#19043531 - 10/28/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well yeah, she won't be leaving without the keys to the handcuffs man
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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#19043720 - 10/28/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If they're awake?
But as a friend if I've done stuff with them before and they called me over??
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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: Konyap]
#19043897 - 10/28/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol, thanks guise, great responses you sick fucks
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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: volcomstoner]
#19043939 - 10/28/13 01:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said: Or she'll wake up terrified in a strangers bed not remembering how she got there or who the hell you are 
exactly, and with the implication, she'll feel like she has to sleep with you if she wants to leave safely.


But seriously, this is a good question. There is a huge stigma on sober people having sex with drunk people, rightfully so in some cases - however there's also a huge double standard with genders and it's kind of a grey area to begin with. Personally if I'm in a relationship with someone I would not give a shit if they were sober and I was drunk as long as I was able to give clear consent and as B0b0 put it, was on the same page. If I was totally passed out then it's a no go, for me, unless I stated permission prior to the situation(and that's for a monogamous/exclusive relationship only)
On a few different occasions I've had guys attempt to make out with me when I was literally laying on the floor and not moving. I was conscious, and I do remember it, but barely so and I was too drunk to do much more than continue to let it happen, think I might've grumbled and rolled over or something. Two of the three times the 'uh oh she's not moving, this is kinda rapey' instinct(at least I'm assuming) kicked in and they let me be.
The other time I wasn't on the floor, but had barely made it up the steps to an apartment, kept pulling away and flat saying 'I can't'(this was happening on my friends couch with people in the other rooms), he wasn't violent but he was still blatantly pulling me towards and on top of him when I was trying to get away. and eventually I was just like 'well OKAY' and briefly came in before my friend came in and broke up all the hoopla because he was clearly more sober than me(hell, he might've been totally sober, idk). I'm not even sure if things had progressed if I would say that was anything more than being heavily coerced because drunk or not I eventually kinda gave up. The whole thing was just kinda creepy but ultimately inconsequential.
If someone is too drunk to give verbal/obvious consent or you're heavily coercing them into it, it's probably a little on the rapey side.
I think you did the right thing, Buest, considering she could barely stand up, but I wouldn't call a drunk dude a rapist if a drunk girl pulled him into a room and they had consensual, albeit sloppy sex.
Edited by pirate-blues (10/28/13 01:58 AM)
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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: pirate-blues]
#19043955 - 10/28/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said: Or she'll wake up terrified in a strangers bed not remembering how she got there or who the hell you are 
exactly, and with the implication, she'll feel like she has to sleep with you if she wants to leave safely.


Finally someone gets it 
Also I don't drink so I'm never sloppy drunk at parties so I'm almost always more sober than the girl. So I never sleep with her if she's more than just a little drunk. Of course if I'm on benzo's I have zero recollection of everything so that's the only exception.
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Re: At what point is it not rape to have sex with someone whose intoxicated? [Re: volcomstoner]
#19044004 - 10/28/13 02:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude its pretty clear.
blacked out, or passed out = rape
shes drunk and coming on to you = not rape
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