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Confusing little LBM
    #19043033 - 10/27/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Using only my ID guide, I'm struggling to attach even a genus to these little guys. Any help you can offer is much appreciated.

Habitat:
Growing in the humus of a potted plant in a bay area backyard.

Gills:
Gills very much attached; adnate to adnexed, remaining so in age. Distinctly serrated and pale at the edges

Stem:
At least within the confines of the pot it grew in, it seems to strictly adhere to 2cm-ish in length. Hollow, tan-ochre to near golden-brown in age. And if not for the short stature and membranous partial veil could easily be viewed as a panaeolus

Cap:
Convex in all ages, margin briefly inrolled in youth. Deep brown in youth, with slightly darker margin. Dries out to a light tan center with wide dark brown margin, and eventually mottled in age.

Spore print color:
Light brown (not rusty, or particularly orange)

Bruising:
None noticable

Photographs:

Mottled, dried, aged caps

Serrated, close, pallid edged gills

Partial veil, still present after hours of drying

A younger specimen, showing initial cap coloration and veil attachment (sorry for the lighting)

In their natural habitat


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Re: Confusing little LBM [Re: hasik]
    #19043087 - 10/27/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

are there alot of wood chips in the 'humus'?

my guess (and just that) resembles some galerinas we have out east, esp the pin with the veil still attached but don't take my word for it, i'm new at IDs


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Re: Confusing little LBM [Re: hasik]
    #19043094 - 10/27/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ill take a stab at it and say pholiotina species?


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Re: Confusing little LBM [Re: Rafiikii]
    #19043126 - 10/27/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe Inocybe sp? Is the cap as fibrous in real life as it looks in the first photo?


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Re: Confusing little LBM [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19043152 - 10/27/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No wood chips, exactly, but it has some older dried out twigs and dead growths. I had considered that they might be a Galerina, but the spore print doesn't have that rust quality to it that I'm used to seeing around here. Just as well, and this may not matter at all, the cap seems to be light in the middle and darker around the margin. Galerina's seem to exhibit the opposite effect. The stems seem a little less hairy, too.


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Re: Confusing little LBM [Re: hasik]
    #19043164 - 10/27/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Could it be a Kuehneromyces sp?


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Re: Confusing little LBM [Re: BjJiggles]
    #19043166 - 10/27/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The cap does seem a little fibrous. The mottle colors tend to run in strands, and can be plied up and bunched together. I unfortunately do not have the tools to examine this more closely.


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Re: Confusing little LBM [Re: hasik]
    #19043246 - 10/27/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

how about conocybe filaris?

http://mushroomobserver.org/6264

i've never seen one, but hey seeing that annulus way down rang a bell


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Re: Confusing little LBM [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #19043267 - 10/27/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The form of the annulus looks perfect for that, and they are extremely common in potted plants.


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Re: Confusing little LBM [Re: canid]
    #19043316 - 10/27/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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canid said:
The form of the annulus looks perfect for that, and they are extremely common in potted plants.




What about the serrated gills, and lack of striate margin on the pileus?  Not that I have an answer...  Confusing LBM indeed.


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Re: Confusing little LBM [Re: Lhun]
    #19043352 - 10/27/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Couldn't say. I'd have given an ID if I thought I knew :laugh:


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Re: Confusing little LBM [Re: canid]
    #19043360 - 10/27/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Pholiotina aff. filaris, rugosa

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Lhun said:
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canid said:
The form of the annulus looks perfect for that, and they are extremely common in potted plants.




What about the serrated gills, and lack of striate margin on the pileus?  Not that I have an answer...  Confusing LBM indeed.




"Comments

This uncommon little brown mushroom (LBM) is characterized by a tawny-brown, striate-margined cap which fades to buff-brown, minutely fringed gill edges, and a striate-grooved annulus. Though seemingly distinctive, it belongs to species complex, members of which are distinguished largely by microscopic characters. The above description is based on a small number of local collections."

http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Pholiotina_rugosa.html


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