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OfflineTsukasa
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Re: "Simple" LSD Synthesis? [Re: Durin]
    #19040350 - 10/27/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Durin said:
It's hard because you need the lab equipment and the heavily watched precursors.



Well some of them are watched like the dangerous ones. But you can grow ergot or collect it from a field but you want to test it and make sure theres nothing else and you can get LSA from multiple different plant extracts...

That being said. Making acid is hard as fuck and requires organic chemistry knowledge so you can refine the finish product. Have you seen the videos on youtube i think vice made them. The one about LSD where they show the research lab is nuts.

You could try but I wouldn't suggest doing it. The ergot can give you necrosis and rot your limbs off. It's not the smartest decision to make. Most people that make acid go to college specifically to study organic chemistry so they can do this. They all said it was hard as fuck.


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Re: "Simple" LSD Synthesis? [Re: Tsukasa]
    #19040352 - 10/27/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Shouldn't this post be in the Other Drugs section.


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Re: "Simple" LSD Synthesis? [Re: villui]
    #19040357 - 10/27/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm confused by the middle section of the picture, with the acetylation of the compound at the Nitrogen in the pyrrole ring.  What good is this and why is it not addressed again?

But all you should need to do from LSA to LSD is turn that primary amide to a tertiary amide, which this synthesis does in fact cover. However, I'm not sure about any properties of the starting compound and how reactive and willing it is to proceed to the desired compound.


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TriGeoLight said:
Shouldn't this post be in the Other Drugs section.




I would think chemistry and pharmacology


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: muirileD]
    #19040386 - 10/27/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Considering manufacturing LSD can get you LIFE, even with all the materials I wouldn't reccomend trying it or even talking about it :shrug:


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: Magicman69]
    #19040426 - 10/27/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It'd be so sweet to have like 10 grams of some high grade crystal. nomnomnom lol like a fat lsd nug crystal


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: Magicman69] * 1
    #19040457 - 10/27/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

TriGeoLight said:
Quote:

Durin said:
It's hard because you need the lab equipment and the heavily watched precursors.



Well some of them are watched like the dangerous ones. But you can grow ergot or collect it from a field but you want to test it and make sure theres nothing else and you can get LSA from multiple different plant extracts...

That being said. Making acid is hard as fuck and requires organic chemistry knowledge so you can refine the finish product. Have you seen the videos on youtube i think vice made them. The one about LSD where they show the research lab is nuts.

You could try but I wouldn't suggest doing it. The ergot can give you necrosis and rot your limbs off. It's not the smartest decision to make. Most people that make acid go to college specifically to study organic chemistry so they can do this. They all said it was hard as fuck.




You know that bromocriptine and hydergine can be used as the source of E.T. and are presently available for purchase legally and by the kilo with no paperwork involved in countries other than the U.S. such as Mexico, right? There is no need for propagation of ergot and 'manufacturing' LSA or other ergolines from it.

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Considering manufacturing LSD can get you LIFE, even with all the materials I wouldn't reccomend trying it or even talking about it :shrug:




Just don't do it in a police state country such as the U.S.A.  Casey Hardison was just released after nine years of incarceration on a twenty year sentence for manufacture of L and a few other presently illegal substances in Great Britain.  Being a one person operation so no one can rat you out and doing things intelligently greatly limits the potential for prosecution and incarceration.

Unfortunately, there has become an incorrect conventional wisdom on the web stating that L is incredibly difficult and nearly impossible to make clandestinely.  It is not.  Yes, expensive lab equipment is needed as is a working knowledge of chemistry.  Contrary to popular belief, a Master's or Ph D in Chemistry is NOT required. One can make L with the education equivalent to a bachelor's degree in chem(probably less). A person can also purchase lab equipment sufficient to make L without any paperwork.  You just can't purchase the equipment needed to make bulk without clearance in the U.S. 

Multiple E.T. sources are obtainable.  Diethylamine gas can be 'made' from 100% DEET and NaOH.  Peptide coupling chems can be purchased legally. 

Please stop with the self-defeating attitude and go to work.

*Edited for spelling and grammatical errors.


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: TheUnknownPoet]
    #19040488 - 10/27/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

just make yourself some CP.

http://www.thoughtspam.com/cloudy/


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19040522 - 10/27/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

EastBayRay said:
Quote:

TriGeoLight said:
Quote:

Durin said:
It's hard because you need the lab equipment and the heavily watched precursors.



Well some of them are watched like the dangerous ones. But you can grow ergot or collect it from a field but you want to test it and make sure theres nothing else and you can get LSA from multiple different plant extracts...

That being said. Making acid is hard as fuck and requires organic chemistry knowledge so you can refine the finish product. Have you seen the videos on youtube i think vice made them. The one about LSD where they show the research lab is nuts.

You could try but I wouldn't suggest doing it. The ergot can give you necrosis and rot your limbs off. It's not the smartest decision to make. Most people that make acid go to college specifically to study organic chemistry so they can do this. They all said it was hard as fuck.




You know that presently bromocriptine and hydergine can be used as the source of E.T. and purchased legally with no paperwork involved by the kilo in countries other than the U.S. such as Mexico, right? There is no need for propagation of ergot and 'manufacturing' LSA or other ergolines from it.

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Magicman69 said:
Considering manufacturing LSD can get you LIFE, even with all the materials I wouldn't reccomend trying it or even talking about it :shrug:




Just don't do it in a police state country such as the U.S. Casey Hardison was just released after nine years of incarceration on a twenty year sentence for manufacture of L and a few other presently illegal substances in Great Britain.  Or just don't get caught and be a one person operation so no one can rat on you. 

Unfortunately, there has become an incorrect conventional wisdom on the web that L is incredibly difficult and near impossible to make clandestinely.  It is not.  Yes expensive lab equipment is needed as is also a working knowledge of chemistry.  That being said, a Master's or Ph D is NOT required. One can do it with the education equivalent to a bachelor's degree in chem. Also, one can purchase lab equipment sufficient to make L without any paperwork.  You just can't purchase the equipment made to make bulk without clearance. 

Multiple E.T. sources are obtainable.  Diethylamine gas cab be 'made' from 100% DEET and NaOH.  Peptide coupling chems can be purchased legally. 

Please stop with the self-defeating attitude and go to work.




dude, why aren't you going to work? do ittt


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: berdinwall]
    #19040620 - 10/27/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

@berdinwall

I have no interest in making it.  I just think people shouldn't give up when they are told they can't do something and find a way to do it, that's all.  A lot of people tend to forget to question everything and think for themselves.  It seems imprisoning.


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OfflineTsukasa
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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: joe666]
    #19040634 - 10/27/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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joe666 said:
just make yourself some CP.

http://www.thoughtspam.com/cloudy/



FUCK THAT SHIT


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: Tsukasa]
    #19041669 - 10/27/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for everyone who gave me helpful advice.

I don't live in the POlice state knows as the USA first of all,
and ergotamine can easily be sourced by the 55 gallon drum here.

You simply go to a rye mill and ask them for their ergot. They have special machines that sort out ergot from the rye.

They won't even ask what you want it for, they will just give it to you if you play your cards right.

Secondly, I see no reason why any of the other chemicals listed here cannot be obtained. Again, I do not live in the USA.

Furthermore, the chemicals that cannot be obtained can be made.

A few chromatography columns, and a dark room are not hard to get, red light t3 bulbs are like 20$ a peice, and 0 humidity is also easy to acheuve, not that it matters anyways if you are working in an inert atmopshere, such as a glovebox. (As pictured)

I understand that in order for you to understand how the synthesis works, you need a background in chemistry, but i reason that if you focused on LSD and only lsd, you could learn how to make it without a phd's or bachelor, if you had experience with using all the ewuipment you need. There are plenty of college books that teach you how to use lab equipment down to the T, all you need is to spend some time with each instrument and carry out some fun ractions so you learn how everything goes and then spend the rest of your time studying.


Somebody correct me if im wrong, and please stop posting the orange peel lsd thing, it's not funny anymore.

I'm not a phd in ochem, but i dont see why this synthesis won't work, which is why i'm asking here. The way it is described, to me, seems as if though it could work.

Please only post constructively in my thread, i'm looking for legit information and i know rubbing toothpaste on your nipples wont get you high.


As for my grammar, get over it. this is the internet, not an english classroom.

Sorry if i sound like a dick, im really trying not to, i just hate the condescending "You cant do it" attitude everyone here seems to have.


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19041717 - 10/27/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

EastBayRay said:
Quote:

TriGeoLight said:
Quote:

Durin said:
It's hard because you need the lab equipment and the heavily watched precursors.



Well some of them are watched like the dangerous ones. But you can grow ergot or collect it from a field but you want to test it and make sure theres nothing else and you can get LSA from multiple different plant extracts...

That being said. Making acid is hard as fuck and requires organic chemistry knowledge so you can refine the finish product. Have you seen the videos on youtube i think vice made them. The one about LSD where they show the research lab is nuts.

You could try but I wouldn't suggest doing it. The ergot can give you necrosis and rot your limbs off. It's not the smartest decision to make. Most people that make acid go to college specifically to study organic chemistry so they can do this. They all said it was hard as fuck.




You know that bromocriptine and hydergine can be used as the source of E.T. and are presently available for purchase legally and by the kilo with no paperwork involved in countries other than the U.S. such as Mexico, right? There is no need for propagation of ergot and 'manufacturing' LSA or other ergolines from it.

Quote:

Magicman69 said:
Considering manufacturing LSD can get you LIFE, even with all the materials I wouldn't reccomend trying it or even talking about it :shrug:




Just don't do it in a police state country such as the U.S.A.  Casey Hardison was just released after nine years of incarceration on a twenty year sentence for manufacture of L and a few other presently illegal substances in Great Britain.  Being a one person operation so no one can rat you out and doing things intelligently greatly limits the potential for prosecution and incarceration.

Unfortunately, there has become an incorrect conventional wisdom on the web stating that L is incredibly difficult and nearly impossible to make clandestinely.  It is not.  Yes, expensive lab equipment is needed as is a working knowledge of chemistry.  Contrary to popular belief, a Master's or Ph D in Chemistry is NOT required. One can make L with the education equivalent to a bachelor's degree in chem(probably less). A person can also purchase lab equipment sufficient to make L without any paperwork.  You just can't purchase the equipment needed to make bulk without clearance in the U.S. 

Multiple E.T. sources are obtainable.  Diethylamine gas can be 'made' from 100% DEET and NaOH.  Peptide coupling chems can be purchased legally. 

Please stop with the self-defeating attitude and go to work.

*Edited for spelling and grammatical errors.



I'm skeptical bromocriptine can be used. I have some idea you're thinking a grignard reaction would yield ergocriptine when the br is stripped away, but the lysergic molecule is a delicate thing, I'm not so sure it would survive. If you have a kilo or two of bromocriptine laying around I suppose it couldn't hurt to try, but it looks like a pie in the sky to me (aka a pipedream).


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: Uzziel]
    #19041885 - 10/27/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ergot is a fungus that grows on rye grain, right? Kinda like (my guess is exactly like) invitro mexicana or galindoi stones, right? Seems like it would be a good trade to raise some claviceps purpurea sclerotia to exchange a chemist for some final product.
I see a new use for the darkwebz, putting together ergot cultivators with chemists. Hell of a benificial arrangement.
JLF used to sell ergot, how?

Just wiki'd jlf, answered my own question.


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: Rockhound]
    #19041914 - 10/27/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Rockhound said:
Ergot is a fungus that grows on rye grain, right?




It grows on more than that, right? I've seen this description in literature. It's outdated, right?


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: s240779]
    #19041939 - 10/27/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That's my point, it grows on rye, + what else, but definitly on rye.


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: s240779]
    #19041996 - 10/27/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: s240779]
    #19042090 - 10/27/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

When i needed chemistry help in 9th grade yahoo answers was always there for me


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Re: Plausable LSD Synthesis? [Re: dontknow]
    #19042321 - 10/27/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Or mutating C. Paspali to produce just Lysergic acid.

The royal society has something on this in an article, but im a bit to high right now to look it up.

Cultivating Ergot or C. Paspali in a submerged culture isn't very hard at all. Flowhood, bioreactor, ect.

I've done it before for different reasons, as long as you don't eat it you'll be fine. Just practise sterile technique.

As for turning it to LSD though, that's a different story.


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Re: "Simple" LSD Synthesis? [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19042600 - 10/27/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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kr0nik0 said:
Quote:

MisterSandman said:
http://forum.grasscity.com/general/248378-orange-peel-acid-does-fact-work.html




This tek was actually originally posted here on the Shroomery way before my time. I'm searching for the thread right now.




Just wanted to follow up with what I said earlier. The grasscity thread you posted is based off of this troll thread from right here in the pub:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6648790

This is why you should never ask for psychedelics advice on grasscity. That forum is mostly underage kids talking about smoking blunts of shwag.


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