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SNHAT
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What have we here?
#19041736 - 10/27/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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First post on the forum, hoping to spend many more pleasant and insightful hours here...
I am familiar with P. semilanceata & how to find it, but I'd like to investigate other Psilocybe species here in Denmark – for research purposes only, of course. I came across these mushrooms a while ago & have been following their progress for 3-4 weeks now. To hone my budding skills as an amateur mycologist, I decided to do my first field report on a few specimens, active or not.
I have tried to identify them myself. I have a national mushroom guide (not too extensive) and Stamets' ID Guide & of course the internet, but I haven't been able to find a sure answer. Based on the lack of bluing and the black spore print, I'm fairly certain it's not an active Psilocybe, but the closest image matches I have found look like some kind of Panaeolus. I am aware that there are deadly look-alikes of this shape like Galerinas, so I won't attempt to eat them.
Below follows the most accurate description I can muster without a strong microscope.
Cap: Cream to tan to chestnut brown. Very dark uniform brown when wet and/or old. Hygrophanous – edges lighten when moist. Dries to dark golden brown. 5-10 cm across. Broadly umbonate with undulating margin, some uplifted and slightly umbonate.
Gills: Dark purple brown when fresh. Almost black when dry. Mottled with lighter patches. Bright edges. Broad and subdistant. Adnexed to subdecurrent.
Spores: Black.
Stem: Whitish with fibrous micro hairs. Stiff, brittle. Hollow or with a white marrow. Black area below the cap, where spores have gathered. 5-15 cm tall and 3-6mm wide.
Habitat: Denmark, temperate climate, Autumn after heavy rain. Temp. 5-15 degrees C. Next to walking path and train tracks. Moist area, landscaped. Tall grass, clover, dead leaves. Under/near small trees. Clustered, numerous in the area.
Babies: Obtusely conic cap. Red-brown with fine hairs. Veil fibrous and white. Dark purple-brown gills.
Other: No bluing reaction. Strong moldy smell while drying.
Pictures, or it didn't happen:



 First time I found them after heavy rain.
 First time I found them after heavy rain.
 Same batch 3-4 weeks later after heavy rain.
 The blue colour on the stems to the right is not bluing of the flesh. It appears to be a layer of fungal matter. This batch grew under some heavy foliage, and looks drier & shorter than the others. Once they all dried up a bit, they are identical as far as I can tell from spore prints etc.





 These spores are jet black.
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paracelsus



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Re: What have we here? [Re: SNHAT]
#19041762 - 10/27/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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psathyrella sp.
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Bobzimmer
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Re: What have we here? [Re: SNHAT]
#19041764 - 10/27/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- Mr. Mushrooms said: I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
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SNHAT
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Re: What have we here? [Re: Bobzimmer]
#19042148 - 10/27/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I appreciate your input, but to my eyes the mushrooms you both linked to look nothing like the ones in my images, except for the colour of the gills and the spores.
Any particular reason for suggesting that mushroom, when so many others look much more similar?
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Bobzimmer
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Re: What have we here? [Re: SNHAT]
#19042311 - 10/27/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because these have mottled gills with white edges, and a blackish spore print, and a cottony partial veil that leaves a fibrilose ring zone that catches the dark spores becoming purple/black and grow in clusters in a grassy area probably on woody debris. That kind of narrows it down. Lacrymaria used to be in Psathyrella and these could be another related Psathyrella species. I'm not really familiar with what grows in Denmark.
Welcome to Shroomery btw...
-------------------- Mr. Mushrooms said: I will confess something that should be quite obvious, CC. I love mushrooms, i.e. fungi. I really do. I am talking about a strong feeling, i.e. emotion, for them. I think they are beautiful. I even dream of them.
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Ganzig
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Re: What have we here? [Re: Bobzimmer]
#19042364 - 10/27/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Bobzimmer said: Lacrymaria
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I must keep reminding myself of this. I must keep reminding myself of this. I must keep reminding myself of this. I must keep reminding myself of this.
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Re: What have we here? [Re: SNHAT]
#19042513 - 10/27/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
SNHAT said: I appreciate your input, but to my eyes the mushrooms you both linked to look nothing like the ones in my images
They look exactly like Lacrymaria to my eyes.
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SNHAT
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Re: What have we here? [Re: Bobzimmer]
#19042521 - 10/27/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks, I'll look in that direction and see if any close matches turn up.
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paracelsus



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Re: What have we here? [Re: SNHAT]
#19042558 - 10/27/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here are some Lacs from my yard to compare.
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SNHAT
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Re: What have we here? [Re: SNHAT]
#19042562 - 10/27/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ah... found some other image examples of Lacrymaria that look more like the ones I discovered. Thanks, I'll be back to learn some more and hopefully be able to contribute with more than just questions.
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